Holland America experience with masks

[nocl]

1 hour ago, scubacruiserx2 said:

 

Bathrobe breakfast on the Eurodam Lido Deck .

 

Well they probably got used to wearing their bathroom to breakfast for the past year when they were stuck at home.

[Sunflower & The Scientist]

I'm still having difficulty wrapping my head around the bathrobes.   This reminds me why we typically sail on Viking.  

[mcrcruiser]

We wear our  masks in stores at home to be safe as possible . 

 Our closest cruise is Dec 3,2022 ,then Dec 10,2022 .These 2 are B2B  Mexican riviera on the new Discovery Princess, then 18 night Hawaii  on Koningsdam  ,April 29,2023   Carnival Panorama  Mexico & Nov 4 ,2023  Carnival Panorama Mexico .  

All the above & future cruises are from Calif ports as we no longer fly 

 

We are certainly hoping that before we cruise the  pandemic is a thing of the past   .By the same token we will never force cruising  .Seems to me that it best be healthy & safe vs  any risk ;as we are in the highest   risk category  over 80 & underly medical  condition 

Even Thanksgiving at our daughters will require we wear masks  because she has 20 0 25  people coming 

We missed family holidays last year & we have grand & great grand children 

 

 

[Florida_gal_50]

33 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said:

We wear our  masks in stores at home to be safe as possible . 

 Our closest cruise is Dec 3,2022 ,then Dec 10,2022 .These 2 are B2B  Mexican riviera on the new Discovery Princess, then 18 night Hawaii  on Koningsdam  ,April 29,2023   Carnival Panorama  Mexico & Nov 4 ,2023  Carnival Panorama Mexico .  

All the above & future cruises are from Calif ports as we no longer fly 

 

We are certainly hoping that before we cruise the  pandemic is a thing of the past   .By the same token we will never force cruising  .Seems to me that it best be healthy & safe vs  any risk ;as we are in the highest   risk category  over 80 & underly medical  condition 

Even Thanksgiving at our daughters will require we wear masks  because she has 20 0 25  people coming 

We missed family holidays last year & we have grand & great grand children 

 

 

You gotta do what makes you feel comfortable.  Personally I felt pretty safe on the koningsdam nov 7 -nov 21 even though there were some special snowflakes that don’t think they should have to abide by what they agreed to.  I did lay pretty low.  I didn’t go to shows after dinner nor get around large groups of people but I was like that pre covid.

[syesmar]

3 hours ago, SargassoPirate said:

Better than seeing a speedo….

Have seen that in the Lido a few times, too. 😳

2 hours ago, Sunflower & The Scientist said:

I'm still having difficulty wrapping my head around the bathrobes….

With the pools and Spa so close by, some just come in right from there to eat. 😉

Edited November 23, 2021 by syesmar

[Sea42]

I would say that on our cruise on the NA last week, mask usage was very good but did slip towards the end of the cruise but not a lot.

The exceptions to this were on the tender from Half Moon Caye to the ship. Many were not wearing their masks and crew and staff members onboard did not say anything. The ride  over to the island everyone was wearing their masks.

The other exception was in BB Kings. Virtually no one who was dancing during the last set of the night was wearing a mask. And it was packed on the dance floor.

[FlaMariner]

2 hours ago, Sea42 said:

The exceptions to this were on the tender from Half Moon Caye to the ship. Many were not wearing their masks

 

Wouldn't that be within mask compliance because riding the tender is being "outside"?

[Sea42]

37 minutes ago, FlaMariner said:

 

Wouldn't that be within mask compliance because riding the tender is being "outside"?

No, they were very clear in the announcements and at the tender platforms that masks were required. 

[Storylady]

On 11/22/2021 at 6:23 PM, Florida_gal_50 said:

You gotta do what makes you feel comfortable.  Personally I felt pretty safe on the koningsdam nov 7 -nov 21 even though there were some special snowflakes that don’t think they should have to abide by what they agreed to.  I did lay pretty low.  I didn’t go to shows after dinner nor get around large groups of people but I was like that pre covid.

We also were on the November 7th-14th cruise. And you are right about some “very special people” who didn’t feel they needed to wear a mask. Five of them were in the front row of the Neil Diamond show. I can understand if you have a drink and are drinking, but once it is done, wear the mask. 
 

On another thread, a passenger who had been vaccinated twice and had the booster had a test for antigens and discovered that he didn’t have any. He is immune compromised. So we need to wear masks to protect vulnerable people who otherwise look healthy.

Edited November 24, 2021 by Storylady

[Florida_gal_50]

1 hour ago, Storylady said:

We also were on the November 7th-14th cruise. And you are right about some “very special people” who didn’t feel they needed to wear a mask. Five of them were in the front row of the Neil Diamond show. I can understand if you have a drink and are drinking, but once it is done, wear the mask. 
 

On another thread, a passenger who had been vaccinated twice and had the booster had a test for antigens and discovered that he didn’t have any. He is immune compromised. So we need to wear masks to protect vulnerable people who otherwise look healthy.

That’s my worry too.  I think some people think I’m vaccinated, can’t get covid.  No one knows that and I’m not willing to test that theory.  Vaccines just aren’t 100 percent.

[TiogaCruiser]

6 hours ago, Storylady said:

We also were on the November 7th-14th cruise. And you are right about some “very special people” who didn’t feel they needed to wear a mask. Five of them were in the front row of the Neil Diamond show. I can understand if you have a drink and are drinking, but once it is done, wear the mask. 
 

On another thread, a passenger who had been vaccinated twice and had the booster had a test for antigens and discovered that he didn’t have any. He is immune compromised. So we need to wear masks to protect vulnerable people who otherwise look healthy.

I believe that is antibodies, not antigens.😉

[esimon]

On 11/22/2021 at 6:35 PM, SargassoPirate said:

Better than seeing a speedo with black socks and black dress shoes. 

II agree 100% -   people don't dress for gala night or breakfast LOL

[NCTribeFan]

I'm just off Eurodam yesterday.

 

That first night, I was in the casino at a slot machine, with a drink, and had removed my mask.  After all, people removed them as soon as they were seated anywhere to eat/drink.  But I was told I had to keep the mask on between sips.  So, that's what I did the rest of the cruise.

 

But you can go to afternoon tea and be seated with strangers, elbow to elbow, and sit there for 30 minutes eating, drinking, and conversing without a mask.  That's my only issue with the mask wearing.  You have to wear it one place but not another.

 

There was one couple who never were masked while dancing at BB Kings, despite the signs to wear them on the dance floor.

 

For the most part, people wore them indoors.  Some wore them outdoors, even while walking the promenade deck.  The "chin maskers" appeared to mostly be older men.  I saw way too many of those.

 

And, yes, I did see a few people in the outdoor dining area wearing bathrobes.  I've seen this much more often on HAL than any other line.  They are not swimsuit coverups.  They're bathrobes.

[Storylady]

14 hours ago, TiogaCruiser said:

I believe that is antibodies, not antigens.😉

You are right. “Even though I have been thrice vaccinated a recent blood test revealed no antibodies in my system.” 

[DFWGUYZ]

🤣 this thread is trippin' me out. Thank you.

[esimon]

On 11/22/2021 at 9:23 PM, Florida_gal_50 said:

You gotta do what makes you feel comfortable.  Personally I felt pretty safe on the koningsdam nov 7 -nov 21 even though there were some special snowflakes that don’t think they should have to abide by what they agreed to.  I did lay pretty low.  I didn’t go to shows after dinner nor get around large groups of people but I was like that pre covid.

interesting definition of snowflakes -  some of us thing the continued fear mongering is a little snowflake -   i'll wear my mask when i need to - but i think its ridiculous 

[esimon]

21 hours ago, NCTribeFan said:

I'm just off Eurodam yesterday.

 

That first night, I was in the casino at a slot machine, with a drink, and had removed my mask.  After all, people removed them as soon as they were seated anywhere to eat/drink.  But I was told I had to keep the mask on between sips.  So, that's what I did the rest of the cruise.

 

But you can go to afternoon tea and be seated with strangers, elbow to elbow, and sit there for 30 minutes eating, drinking, and conversing without a mask.  That's my only issue with the mask wearing.  You have to wear it one place but not another.

 

There was one couple who never were masked while dancing at BB Kings, despite the signs to wear them on the dance floor.

 

For the most part, people wore them indoors.  Some wore them outdoors, even while walking the promenade deck.  The "chin maskers" appeared to mostly be older men.  I saw way too many of those.

 

And, yes, I did see a few people in the outdoor dining area wearing bathrobes.  I've seen this much more often on HAL than any other line.  They are not swimsuit coverups.  They're bathrobes.

the hypocrisy may never end.  

[esimon]

I will wear a mask because the rules say so - and it will make sooooo many people feel better (not me as breathing in mask sucks) -  I got the vaccine - to get on the ship -  and I will have a wonderful cruise in spite of all the things that make no sense 

[jimmy2x]

2 hours ago, esimon said:

I will wear a mask because the rules say so - and it will make sooooo many people feel better (not me as breathing in mask sucks) -  I got the vaccine - to get on the ship -  and I will have a wonderful cruise in spite of all the things that make no sense 

I have to agree with you. Live in Bucks County PA just north of Philly. Go to an athletic club every day for swimming and racquetball. It would not be possible to wear a mask in the pool and nobody wears one for racquetball. Have known most of these folks for years and am confident that they are vaccinated. 
Took my daughter out for dinner yesterday at a very nice restaurant. Not a mask to be seen except for the employees. 

 

[projecthandbag]

Just off a cruise on the Rotterdam which was awesome.  For the life of me I can't understand why there is a mask requirement in the casino, yet, they allow smoking!  People were maskless, smoking or vaping and exhaling.  The casino is small and has low ceilings.  Isn't coronavirus an airborne transmitted virus?  Ugggghhh.

That being said, it wasn't hard to comply and wear a mask although once in a while I had a brain cramp and forgot when getting up from a meal.

[nocl]

3 hours ago, HappyInVan said:

 

Have you noticed that the share price of CCL today is below $18? Some people say that the stock market is the best predictor of the future of cruising!

Every cruise line, hotel chain, air line is down big today due to news on B.1.1.259, the Omicron, variant out of South Africa

[projecthandbag]

19 minutes ago, HappyInVan said:

 

Fortunately, the protocols (vax, tests, masks and distancing) on a cruise ship provides layers of protect. Lapses in a protocol have been covered by other layers. That's why there have been so few mass outbreaks this year.

 

That said, you couldn't pay me enough to spend 5 minutes in a ship casino. Phew!

 

That's a good point about all the layered protocols.  Thank you.