Sailing capacity

[puggylicious]

Has there any news on the capacity the ships are currently sailing at?  I know they planned to be sailing at 100% by summer.  Just wondering about February and March sailings. 

[Biker19]

Just now, puggylicious said:

Just wondering about February and March sailings. 

Anything between 30-70%.

[skagen]

On Harmony just last week I was told 2300, somewhere in the neighborhood of 40%; that we had lost a couple hundred additionally due to the snowstorms in the Northeast.

 

I bet things start to change quickly though, cases are falling off a cliff.

[Host Anne]

I've heard between 40 - 70% at the moment, too.  However, like everything else these days, that can change quickly.  Sailing on Brilliance next month.  I'll report back on capacity.

[Sunshine3601]

I suspect after the problems they had during the winter holidays they probably are too nervous to rush capacities up during spring break season.     At least I am hoping that our March sailings will stay around 50% capacity.   It is really nice to have reduced capacity!

[Oceansaway17]

I guess it is hard to tell but I have noticed watching the various port webcams that Disney ships and Celebrity ships seem to have a lot more folks out on deck during departure.

 

I guess it might come down to what islands the ship is going to and also how many crew members are on board.  

[Cel_cruise]

I have a feeling our April 15 on Wonder will be close to 100%!!!   70% would be amazing! 

[Pandamonia]

15 minutes ago, Cel_cruise said:

I have a feeling our April 15 on Wonder will be close to 100%!!!   70% would be amazing! 

 

No chance of 100%

[bucfan2]

42 minutes ago, Pandamonia said:

 

No chance of 100%

Concur.  They are giving away cruises, and people are still cancelling in droves.  Spring break/pent-up demand/etc.etc....you'll hear it all....they'll be thrilled to see 50% until the masking stuff catches up w/ reality.  (My opinion...and based on #'s).

Edited February 7, 2022 by bucfan2

[Ptroxx]

Explorer last week.  1300 pax about 40%

was like sailing on an empty ship.   Was great for us.  Not RC I imagine.  

Edited February 7, 2022 by Ptroxx

[puggylicious]

Thanks for all the replies.  

[erinsmom03]

3 hours ago, Sunshine3601 said:

I suspect after the problems they had during the winter holidays they probably are too nervous to rush capacities up during spring break season.     At least I am hoping that our March sailings will stay around 50% capacity.   It is really nice to have reduced capacity!

 

I am hoping this remains true for our March cruise too. I am nervous about our May and July cruises, however. 

[Sobro]

16 hours ago, Ptroxx said:

Explorer last week.  1300 pax about 40%

was like sailing on an empty ship.   Was great for us.  Not RC I imagine.  

 

They were giving 30- and 40% specialty dining discounts just by asking, even for prior reservations. Casino was a ghost town, but I did step away from blackjack with $15 profit. Hard to believe they didn't ever drop the minimums from $10 to $6.

[Ptroxx]

15 minutes ago, Sobro said:

 

They were giving 30- and 40% specialty dining discounts just by asking, even for prior reservations. Casino was a ghost town, but I did step away from blackjack with $15 profit. Hard to believe they didn't ever drop the minimums from $10 to $6.

Was nice being in the casino with no smokers.  That’s for sure. 
but it was still kinda busy. Not like usual. But for the % of people 

[exm]

Anyone has been on Anthem this year? Curious about their capacity.

[leaveitallbehind]

On our October Oasis cruise, we were at about 40% capacity.  We were told that if the Covid recovery continued at the then favorable pace, commencing in November, the plan was to increase capacity by about 5% per month until it reached 100%.  This would be with the CDC OK at each level as the no sail order was still in effect regarding the cruise lines operations in returning to cruising.  So that would mean that November would be targeted at 50%, December at 55%, etc., until September, which would theoretically then be back to 100%. 

 

Of course then things took the turn that they did and the planned increases have not occurred.  To my understanding, most are still operating at 50% or less.  However, what is different now is that in January, satisfied with the cruise operations overall and in their handling of the current situation, the CDC lifted the no sail order, so they no longer directly affect the cruise line's decisions for capacity growth.  This can now be determined moving forward by them.  How it all goes remains to be seen.

Edited February 8, 2022 by leaveitallbehind

[Ourusualbeach]

1 minute ago, leaveitallbehind said:

On our October Oasis cruise, we were at about 40% capacity.  We were told that if the Covid recovery continued at the then favorable pace, commencing in November, the plan was to increase capacity by about 5% per month until it reached 100%.  This would be with the CDC OK at each level as the no sail order was still in effect regarding the cruise lines operations in returning to cruising.  So that would mean that November would be targeted at 50%, December at 55%, etc., until September, which would theoretically then be back to 100%. 

 

Of course then things took the turn that they did and the planned increases have not occurred.  To my understanding, most are still operating at 50% or less.  However, what is different now is that in January, satisfied with the overall cruise operations overall and in the midst of the current situation,  the CDC lifted the no sail order, so they no longer directly affect the cruise line's decisions for capacity growth.  This can now be determined moving forward by them.  How it all goes remains to be seen.

Funny how people on the ship are saying things different than corporate.  I believe they announced in one of their earnings calls that they were increasing capacity by 10% a month and that December would be 70 to 80% which it was on many sailings, particularly the holiday ones

[DEBCAT65]

We just got off Navigator yesterday.  Ship holds about 4000, and there were less than 950 passengers.  Our daughter sailed on 1/10 and there were about 540.  

[Ourusualbeach]

7 minutes ago, DEBCAT65 said:

We just got off Navigator yesterday.  Ship holds about 4000, and there were less than 950 passengers.  Our daughter sailed on 1/10 and there were about 540.  

NV is sailing with a lot less passengers than ships in Florida and at some very low prices.  Hopefully it improves or Royal may rethink their decision to homeport her there.

[Jimbo]

12 minutes ago, DEBCAT65 said:

We just got off Navigator yesterday.  Ship holds about 4000, and there were less than 950 passengers.  Our daughter sailed on 1/10 and there were about 540.  

You would think doesn't pay to leave the port with those numbers of passengers. Sad.

[leaveitallbehind]

26 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said:

Funny how people on the ship are saying things different than corporate.  I believe they announced in one of their earnings calls that they were increasing capacity by 10% a month and that December would be 70 to 80% which it was on many sailings, particularly the holiday ones

Ken I agree, but that was the message.  Without getting into my details that I believe you are familiar with, I was on a "select" group cruise at the time where that was the information revealed at one of the meetings by a senior staff member.  That of course does not mean it was a certainty or not subject to change. And certainly can't argue with what may have been announced at a given earnings call.  I did not participate on any of those recently so I can't say.  

 

And BTW, our Allure Holiday sailing this year was at a ship reported 2,300+/- passengers / 1,300 +/- crew. 

Edited February 8, 2022 by leaveitallbehind

[leaveitallbehind]

20 minutes ago, Heymarco said:

 

So many people have misunderstood these comments to mean every ship will be capped at 60% this month and 70% next month. What it actually means is some ships will sail at 40% while others sale at 80%, it’s actually fleet wide capacity that will increase month over month. We saw over the holidays that there is no golden standard for individual ship capacity.

The numbers cited are target capacity numbers.  I am not aware of any ship sailing in recent months at 80%.  But certainly some at less than the targets.

 

Back in the fall when they were first announced as targets, it was also with CDC approval, which would limit the maximum booking capacity to those targets.  Those conditions were not lifted until January 12.

Edited February 8, 2022 by leaveitallbehind

[Jimbo]

2 minutes ago, Heymarco said:

 

it’s actually fleet wide capacity that will increase month over month. We saw over the holidays that there is no golden standard for individual ship capacity.

So then tell me now what  the fleet wide capacity is right now? as of Feb 1st?

[John&LaLa]

35 minutes ago, Heymarco said:

For spring break cruises, we will see numbers over 80-90% again, then it will dip until summer. Some of the less popular ships and destinations will have lower numbers of course.

 

Harmony staff said they were expecting over 1000 kids in March

[DUBIDUB2]

The good news is the falling virus rates all over the globe. I don't so much mind getting it any more, but boy, can it be AFTER the cruise or the last day 😉

Edited February 8, 2022 by DUBIDUB2