Guest ldtr Posted August 17, 2023 #26 Share Posted August 17, 2023 12 hours ago, JimmyVWine said: 100%. Goal #1 = Increase Revenue. How that gets done is a labyrinth of interconnected strategies but the simplest of these is to push people into packages. I don't think anyone made a PowerPoint presentation at HQ showing how additional revenue from Alfredo's would be a game changer. I wouldn't be surprised if they started employing even more strategies that make Standard fares a sure loser. They want everyone to have a package and I suspect that soon they will get there. "Inside cabins can only booked if you have a package." "Advanced Dining Reservations can only be made if you have a package." "Pool hours from 1:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. are limited to those who have a package." Don't laugh. Celebrity tried requiring package purchases a few years back. That experiment failed and they dropped it fairly quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JimmyVWine Posted August 17, 2023 #27 Share Posted August 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, ldtr said: Celebrity tried requiring package purchases a few years back. That experiment failed and they dropped it fairly quickly. So the question becomes: When "requiring" a package fails, will "making packages the only logical choice" succeed. As long as Standard is an option, there is not "requirement". Princess seems intent on making Standard a viable option only for people who cannot or chose not to consume alcohol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyed Posted August 17, 2023 #28 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 9/7/2022 at 10:40 PM, JimmyVWine said: Looks like Planks walked the plank and Steamers ran out of steam.😜 Yet both were mentioned in Princess' recent email about the changes in dining. Expanded casual dining options: Delicious prix fixe menus have been added to casual dining restaurants like Planks, Steamers, Alfredo's, Gigi's by Alfredo, Ocean Terrace and Kai Sushi. They’re available for a nominal cover charge of $14.99. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skynight Posted August 17, 2023 #29 Share Posted August 17, 2023 7 hours ago, JimmyVWine said: So the question becomes: When "requiring" a package fails, will "making packages the only logical choice" succeed. As long as Standard is an option, there is not "requirement". Princess seems intent on making Standard a viable option only for people who cannot or chose not to consume alcohol. Should there be a fare option that includes the non-alcoholic beverage package and excludes the alcoholic one? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfamm Posted August 17, 2023 #30 Share Posted August 17, 2023 9 hours ago, vickie_bernie said: Steamers was open tonight. There were a few tables enjoying it. Looks like Planks will be open this evening on the Caribbean. Neither were open on the day we sailed. Not sure about our second evening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Australia08 Posted August 17, 2023 #31 Share Posted August 17, 2023 10 hours ago, vickie_bernie said: Steamers was open tonight. There were a few tables enjoying it. Hi Vickie. We were on the previous cruise with you. Could you post menus for Steamers, Planks and Vines. I was told that each would have a 3 course prixe-fixe. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krap Posted August 17, 2023 #32 Share Posted August 17, 2023 45 minutes ago, Torfamm said: Looks like Planks will be open this evening on the Caribbean. Neither were open on the day we sailed. Not sure about our second evening. I am wondering what the Savory Pie is that is listed under the Omelet Station at 5:00 pm to 10:00 pm. Anyone know? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JimmyVWine Posted August 17, 2023 #33 Share Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, skynight said: Should there be a fare option that includes the non-alcoholic beverage package and excludes the alcoholic one? Seems logical. Call it "Minus" and price it out at $45 per day and you get everything included in "Plus" except your beverages must be soft ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted August 17, 2023 #34 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, JimmyVWine said: Seems logical. Call it "Minus" and price it out at $45 per day and you get everything included in "Plus" except your beverages must be soft ones. Except they cannot use a negative sounding word to name a package. How about "Plus Light"? I see $45 as the max and $40 as the min. How about $42.50? Ha, ha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmoe38 Posted August 17, 2023 #35 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) Here is a posting outlining the casual dining options available on Princess ships. See Post #1 on Page 1. Edited August 17, 2023 by Schmoe38 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmoe38 Posted August 17, 2023 #36 Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) This may be a more condensed version for casual dining on the Caribbean Princess Edited August 17, 2023 by Schmoe38 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare startedwithamouse Posted August 17, 2023 #37 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Australia08 said: Hi Vickie. We were on the previous cruise with you. Could you post menus for Steamers, Planks and Vines. I was told that each would have a 3 course prixe-fixe. Thanks. Someone posted menus in another post for Steamers, Planks and Vines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Australia08 Posted August 18, 2023 #38 Share Posted August 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Schmoe38 said: This may be a more condensed version for casual dining on the Caribbean Princess Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted August 18, 2023 #39 Share Posted August 18, 2023 16 hours ago, Krap said: I am wondering what the Savory Pie is that is listed under the Omelet Station at 5:00 pm to 10:00 pm. Anyone know? Thanks! Sounds like desserts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coo359a2 Posted August 18, 2023 #40 Share Posted August 18, 2023 8 hours ago, caribill said: Sounds like desserts. I was thinking it might be meat since the UK calls their various meat pies - savory pies. but I'm wrong a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krap Posted August 18, 2023 #41 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I was thinking meat pies as well, but I have never cruised before so was not sure. Thank you for the responses! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted August 18, 2023 #42 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, coo359a2 said: I was thinking it might be meat since the UK calls their various meat pies - savory pies. but I'm wrong a lot. You could be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestPassage Posted August 18, 2023 #43 Share Posted August 18, 2023 (edited) On 8/16/2023 at 9:00 AM, Schmoe38 said: That may have changed with the most recent sailing of Caribbean Princess. Someone currently on board suggested Planks and Steamers are open for casual dining business, however, are not open every night. We’re on Caribbean Princess in mid September, so I guess we’ll be able to see first hand. I just got off the Caribbean Princess four days ago. There were no indications or rumors that Planks and Steams will reopen, as branded dining venues, anytime soon. However, things may have suddenly changed this week. 😏 Edited August 18, 2023 by NorthWestPassage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmoe38 Posted August 18, 2023 #44 Share Posted August 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, NorthWestPassage said: I just got off the Caribbean Princess four days ago. There were no indications or rumors that Planks and Steams will reopen, as branded dining venues, anytime soon. However, things may have suddenly changed this week. 😏 Posts #25 and 30, (from those currently on board), are advising that Steamers and Planks seem to be showing signs of life. Randy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Guardsy Posted August 19, 2023 #45 Share Posted August 19, 2023 We were on the Caribbean Princess in April and both were open during the entire cruise. Never really understood what they were, though. ?? Additional buffet? Pay extra? Never really saw much in the way of seafood in Steamers, but they were operating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimiq Posted August 19, 2023 #46 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Is it only me or it seemed like Princess has no clue what direction they are taking ? Lately so many changes have just aggravated their loyal customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted August 19, 2023 #47 Share Posted August 19, 2023 21 hours ago, caribill said: Sounds like desserts. The term savory in the culinary world is not a dessert or sweet item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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