Mum2Mercury Posted November 19, 2022 #101 Share Posted November 19, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 7:54 AM, jerseyjjs said: Don't these people know that wearing shorts in the MDR affects the quality of the food? Eh, yes and no. You've heard the phrase, "You eat with your eyes first"? It means, of course, that the plating of your food matters -- that attractive food tastes better than food that's just slapped on the plate. When I was working, people always used to comment on the lunches I'd bring in -- they'd say how pretty they were. I do take time to make my family's meals look nice, especially with lots of colorful veg. Anyway -- to some extent -- that extends to the atmosphere of the room, which sets the stage for the meal. Taking some care with your dress, walking into a nice room -- this mentally prepares you for a nice meal. On 11/13/2022 at 2:23 PM, davekathy said: Shorts are shorts. Call them whatever you want but as long as it fits your interpretation of what is out of place. As they should have. More staff at the entrance to the MDR need to grow bigger stones and enforce or at least advise people of the published dress guidelines for the evening in the MDR. Disagree, as others on this thread have said, gym shorts and dress shorts are not the same animal. I did wear shorts to dinner twice on our last cruise -- nice dress shorts paired with a dressy, gauzy blouse, wedge heels, nice hair and make-up and jewelry. That's a long way from what I wore for the gym: gray Sofies and a school mascot tee that some kid left in my classroom years ago. On 11/14/2022 at 10:58 AM, billslowsky said: Churches emptied in the 1970s due to harassment of teens who weren't dressed to others' preferences. They never came back. I don't think any single thing is responsible for the drop in organized religion in America. On 11/14/2022 at 4:24 PM, jean87510 said: Glad we don't go to MDR. This is just too much stress for a vacation. Oh, come on, you may not WANT to dress up, but pulling on a pair of pants or a sundress isn't really stressful. On 11/15/2022 at 4:30 AM, UnregisteredUser said: I mean shorts must be ok at the Captains table, right? Hey, hey, hey -- do you see a fork in the man's hand? He's not at dinner! On 11/15/2022 at 7:27 AM, graciekelli said: No. But I feel very proud that my husband takes an interest in looking his best when we go out somewhere nice and we feel good about each other. I think there is a place and time for shorts/casual wear and a place and time for looking good. Dressing up occasionally makes me feel good about myself. During the pandemic we -- like so many other people -- fell into a pattern of slovenly dress: PJ pants, hair in a ponytail - just not caring. As things were winding down, we were invited to a wedding. I wore a lovely lace dress and heels -- both things that've been in my closet a long time. I did my hair and make-up. I looked really good, and I felt good about myself. It set the tone for a nice evening, and it made me realize that I feel better about myself when I put in some effort. My husband definitely noticed, and it made him happy -- not that he was complaining before. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted November 19, 2022 #102 Share Posted November 19, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 12:05 PM, Mickey S said: I am new to CC however, I am in the camp where adult men should wear long slacks in the evening except for buffet. Having said that we go to some real nice high end places all over the US where basically anything goes. Men and women. Since there is no dress code, men are not required to wear lacks or jeans or dockers. Totally overkill. Shorts are perfectly fine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jean87510 Posted November 19, 2022 #103 Share Posted November 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Mum2Mercury said: Eh, yes and no. You've heard the phrase, "You eat with your eyes first"? It means, of course, that the plating of your food matters -- that attractive food tastes better than food that's just slapped on the plate. When I was working, people always used to comment on the lunches I'd bring in -- they'd say how pretty they were. I do take time to make my family's meals look nice, especially with lots of colorful veg. Anyway -- to some extent -- that extends to the atmosphere of the room, which sets the stage for the meal. Taking some care with your dress, walking into a nice room -- this mentally prepares you for a nice meal. Disagree, as others on this thread have said, gym shorts and dress shorts are not the same animal. I did wear shorts to dinner twice on our last cruise -- nice dress shorts paired with a dressy, gauzy blouse, wedge heels, nice hair and make-up and jewelry. That's a long way from what I wore for the gym: gray Sofies and a school mascot tee that some kid left in my classroom years ago. I don't think any single thing is responsible for the drop in organized religion in America. Oh, come on, you may not WANT to dress up, but pulling on a pair of pants or a sundress isn't really stressful. Hey, hey, hey -- do you see a fork in the man's hand? He's not at dinner! Dressing up occasionally makes me feel good about myself. During the pandemic we -- like so many other people -- fell into a pattern of slovenly dress: PJ pants, hair in a ponytail - just not caring. As things were winding down, we were invited to a wedding. I wore a lovely lace dress and heels -- both things that've been in my closet a long time. I did my hair and make-up. I looked really good, and I felt good about myself. It set the tone for a nice evening, and it made me realize that I feel better about myself when I put in some effort. My husband definitely noticed, and it made him happy -- not that he was complaining before. It's always fun to read a post that is so condescending first thing in the morning. Just amazed at the time and effort to cut and paste. 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDawg Posted November 19, 2022 #104 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, jean87510 said: It's always fun to read a post that is so condescending first thing in the morning. Just amazed at the time and effort to cut and paste. But you do have to admit @Mum2Mercury makes a good point about "You eat with your eyes first". I mean, I don't have any issues with other men wearing shorts in the MDR but I don't do it myself. Not because of any cruise line rule but because the ladies in the room would be so distracted by my incredibly fury manly pistons that their plates of food would turn into some bland pile on nothingness. A good steak, or lobster just can't compete with DirtyDawg's shanks! And as a good fellow cruiser I have to look out for the ladies on my cruises. 😉😁 And BTW why are we always talking about the unsightliness of men in shorts in the MDR. What about all the ladies with their too tight yoga type pants and dresses! And good God women, if you can afford a cruise, you can afford to pay a few extra bucks more for an extra couple of inches of fabric for the bottom of that dress! You're not 20 years old anymore! 😇 Edited November 19, 2022 by DirtyDawg 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ret MP Posted November 19, 2022 #105 Share Posted November 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Engineroom Snipe said: I tried to be witty and respond earlier @Ret MPbut my humor must not have been appreciated by the monitor of the site 😁. 😩😭 I am on two strike-outs tonight. Maybe time to give it a rest. 🥺 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleJoefromKokomo Posted November 19, 2022 #106 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, DirtyDawg said: And BTW why are we always talking about the unsightliness of men in shorts in the MDR. What about all the ladies with their too tight yoga type pants and dresses! You make that sound like its a bad thing with yogapants and tight dresses? 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted November 19, 2022 #107 Share Posted November 19, 2022 1 hour ago, UnregisteredUser said: You make that sound like its a bad thing with yogapants and tight dresses? 😉 I mean, it definitely can go either way 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Engineroom Snipe Posted November 19, 2022 #108 Share Posted November 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Ret MP said: 🥺 Not forever, only for last night! 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted November 19, 2022 #109 Share Posted November 19, 2022 5 hours ago, jean87510 said: It's always fun to read a post that is so condescending first thing in the morning. Just amazed at the time and effort to cut and paste. Could have been more to the point by just saying "I want I want I want". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslowsky Posted November 19, 2022 #110 Share Posted November 19, 2022 4 hours ago, DirtyDawg said: And BTW why are we always talking about the unsightliness of men in shorts in the MDR. What about all the ladies with their too tight yoga type pants and dresses! And good God women, if you can afford a cruise, you can afford to pay a few extra bucks more for an extra couple of inches of fabric for the bottom of that dress! You're not 20 years old anymore! 😇 I have seen plenty of women who "I thought" were wearing outfits not flattering... but the heck with me, if these ladies want to go on a cruise vacation, more power to them. Same with the old dudes in the speedo poolside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jean87510 Posted November 19, 2022 #111 Share Posted November 19, 2022 5 hours ago, DirtyDawg said: But you do have to admit @Mum2Mercury makes a good point about "You eat with your eyes first". I mean, I don't have any issues with other men wearing shorts in the MDR but I don't do it myself. Not because of any cruise line rule but because the ladies in the room would be so distracted by my incredibly fury manly pistons that their plates of food would turn into some bland pile on nothingness. A good steak, or lobster just can't compete with DirtyDawg's shanks! And as a good fellow cruiser I have to look out for the ladies on my cruises. 😉😁 And BTW why are we always talking about the unsightliness of men in shorts in the MDR. What about all the ladies with their too tight yoga type pants and dresses! And good God women, if you can afford a cruise, you can afford to pay a few extra bucks more for an extra couple of inches of fabric for the bottom of that dress! You're not 20 years old anymore! 😇 My original post was sarcastic which mum didn't get or read. Too busy cutting, pasting and criticizing. And since I do not eat in the MDR, I wear shorts and yoga pants in the Windjammer and my tight dresses in the Specialty. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RD64 Posted November 19, 2022 #112 Share Posted November 19, 2022 2 hours ago, smokeybandit said: I mean, it definitely can go either way There was a very popular tshirt in Italy this past summer - written in Italian of course. There are three things that never lie: children, drunks, and leggings. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkr2 Posted November 20, 2022 #113 Share Posted November 20, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 2:47 PM, davekathy said: Knock yourself out. 🤣Gym shorts, dress shorts (?) same same as RC published dress guidelines only says shorts. Wear what you want. Cool with me. My only point is don't claim your shorts/pants are nicer (interpretation) than what someone else is wearing because they are a different style. Shorts are shorts! I love dressing up and can generally get my husband to somewhat match. However, there is a world of difference between my husbands bike shorts and t shirt and his pretty linen shorts with a nice long sleeve shirt. We live in Florida and dress shorts do not turn heads in too many nice restaurants. A few years ago, our large group arrived at Berns Steakhouse and husband had on dress shorts . They loaned him a pair of long pants in his size. Hilarious plated and cuffed pair from 1980. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morecruisesplz Posted November 20, 2022 #114 Share Posted November 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, tinkr2 said: I love dressing up and can generally get my husband to somewhat match. However, there is a world of difference between my husbands bike shorts and t shirt and his pretty linen shorts with a nice long sleeve shirt. We live in Florida and dress shorts do not turn heads in too many nice restaurants. A few years ago, our large group arrived at Berns Steakhouse and husband had on dress shorts . They loaned him a pair of long pants in his size. Hilarious plated and cuffed pair from 1980. "Pretty linen shorts" ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkr2 Posted November 20, 2022 #115 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 minute ago, fredmdcruisers said: "Pretty linen shorts" ??? Is the problem the word pretty? Can mens clothes not be pretty in your world? Shall I rephrase to his handsome designer dress shorts? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted November 20, 2022 #116 Share Posted November 20, 2022 The only problem with people dressing correctly is we would have nobody to make fun of . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucfan2 Posted November 20, 2022 #117 Share Posted November 20, 2022 6 hours ago, tinkr2 said: Can mens clothes not be pretty in your world? No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Reid Posted November 20, 2022 #118 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Some suggestions; one even for formal night. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Engineroom Snipe Posted November 20, 2022 #119 Share Posted November 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, John Reid said: Some suggestions; one even for formal night. I only have one word, "Stunning". 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky1987 Posted November 20, 2022 #120 Share Posted November 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, John Reid said: Some suggestions; one even for formal night. Eight out of ten people would have more fun sitting with these people in the MDR than they would sitting with the pretentious nose-in-the-air crowd. 7 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted November 20, 2022 #121 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, tinkr2 said: I love dressing up and can generally get my husband to somewhat match. However, there is a world of difference between my husbands bike shorts and t shirt and his pretty linen shorts with a nice long sleeve shirt. We live in Florida and dress shorts do not turn heads in too many nice restaurants. A few years ago, our large group arrived at Berns Steakhouse and husband had on dress shorts . They loaned him a pair of long pants in his size. Hilarious plated and cuffed pair from 1980. Linen shorts. Sounds like some of my boxers (underwear). 🤣 Shorts are shorts by any definition. All I'm saying is RC doesn't distinguish between the different types/styles or materials when they say under casual wear, shorts are welcome for breakfast and lunch. If I had my way I'd wear shorts every night in the MDR, not just the first night. Wait a minute, I do. I wear my linen (pretty or not is in the eye of the beholder) boxer shorts under my pants. 🤣 Edited November 20, 2022 by davekathy 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted November 20, 2022 #122 Share Posted November 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, nferr said: Except you're sitting in an air conditioned dining room during dinner.... exactly like you do in Florida, TX, most Caribbean islands, Hawaii, the Middle East, parts of Africa…………. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Engineroom Snipe Posted November 20, 2022 #123 Share Posted November 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, nferr said: Except you're sitting in an air conditioned dining room during dinner.... @Biker19, you are right, how many times do we recycle the same thread. 😉 I should just sit back and observe because there is nothing more to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted November 21, 2022 #124 Share Posted November 21, 2022 (edited) On 11/14/2022 at 9:50 AM, graciekelli said: I have been married to the best husband in the world for 36 years. We love dressing up for each other for "date night". Neither of us would be caught dead going to a nice resturant in clothing that was made for the pool side. Also, we brush our teeth, comb our hair and I put make-up on. I want my DH to feel good walking by my side. By the way, we also raised our 5 kids (all grown now) that there is a place to dress down and it's not at a nice resturant, weddings or church. Good for you... I think folks should wear what they like, and enjoy themselves. However, if you think the MDR on a Royal Caribbean ship is a "nice restaurant," you probably need to get out more. IMO. Edited November 21, 2022 by Mikew0805 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlGoodShips Posted November 21, 2022 #125 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Just read all 144 posts...our 1st cruise on Royal is coming up in Jan 2023 to the Caribbean. Still confused. Can we wear shorts (bermuda length) and nice collared shirts and blouses in Main Dining Room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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