Deal or No Deal

[Alabaster Cruiser]

First ever Deal or No Deal on Nieuw Statendam this week.  I have heard that this is the biggest cruise ship rip off ever.  I now know that that is true.

[yerdua]

Umm, would you care to expand your statement here? I have no idea what you're referring to with "deal or no deal". And, whatever it is, how is it a rip off?

Edited March 4, 2023 by yerdua

[Alabaster Cruiser]

It's a game show like the one that Howie Mandel did on TV.  Other lines have replaced bingo with it.  The Nieuw Statendam still had bingo too.  You buy cards to play.  $20 for 1, $30 for 2, and 3 cards for $40.  The World Stage theater was pretty full with players.  One person is pulled from audience to play on stage.  When they pick a number of suitcase to open, you open your card to see if your number matches their number.  Anyway everything is  computerized and very easily controlled.  The highest possible payoff for the player is $1000.  The very highest payoff for audience players is also $1000 or a free cruise of Hollands choice.  For our $40 investment to play we won a total of 3 $5.00 scratch tickets from which we won $5.  The highest payout in the whole audience was a couple of $30 free play in casino.  The highest pay to contestant was around $150.

Almost everyone was playing 3 cards. The payout was probably less than $400 for the whole theater.  What a take for Holland!

[Daisyloo]

12 minutes ago, Alabaster Cruiser said:

It's a game show like the one that Howie Mandel did on TV.  Other lines have replaced bingo with it.  The Nieuw Statendam still had bingo too.  You buy cards to play.  $20 for 1, $30 for 2, and 3 cards for $40.  The World Stage theater was pretty full with players.  One person is pulled from audience to play on stage.  When they pick a number of suitcase to open, you open your card to see if your number matches their number.  Anyway everything is  computerized and very easily controlled.  The highest possible payoff for the player is $1000.  The very highest payoff for audience players is also $1000 or a free cruise of Hollands choice.  For our $40 investment to play we won a total of 3 $5.00 scratch tickets from which we won $5.  The highest payout in the whole audience was a couple of $30 free play in casino.  The highest pay to contestant was around $150.

Almost everyone was playing 3 cards. The payout was probably less than $400 for the whole theater.  What a take for Holland!

Don't play if it bother you.  Easy.

 

[Florida_gal_50]

Sounds like a rip off for sure.  I’d be passing on that. I’m sure some will be along shortly to say it’s a great way for hal to raise money.  Probably the same people that want an extensive library that generates zero for hal.

Edited March 4, 2023 by Florida_gal_50

[highscar]

Bingo used to be fun. Games such as write a poem describing the person calling,  silly games, prizes, coffee mugs, ,magnets, ect.   Now it’s buy cards, sit down, listen, leave.  Nothing interactive. Boring. 

[VMax1700]

It's called gambling. 

Was there a guaranteed payout?

Would this be run by the casino?  

Some you lose, most you lose.

[ski ww]

It's not some thing I'd be interested in even if it was free. Not how I want to spent my day at sea. To each their own.

[Alabaster Cruiser]

35 minutes ago, Daisyloo said:

Don't play if it bother you.  Easy.

 

Just trying to let others know since it is new to Holland.  That's what Cruise Critic used to be about.  Obviously not anymore from the rude replys.

[RedneckBob]

6 minutes ago, Alabaster Cruiser said:

Just trying to let others know since it is new to Holland.  That's what Cruise Critic used to be about.  Obviously not anymore from the rude replys.

Sorry Alabaster Cruiser. Sometimes these folks on the CC sometimes don’t understand us folks from the South. I know I have a hard time, sometimes. 😀
Are y’all from Alabaster ?

[3rdGenCunarder]

32 minutes ago, VMax1700 said:

It's called gambling. 

Was there a guaranteed payout?

Would this be run by the casino?  

Some you lose, most you lose.

 

That's an interesting question, about the casino. I kind of doubt it. Doesn't sound like a casino kind of thing. Although the odds are definitely "with the house."

 

OP, what about it was computer controlled? A random audience member making a choice isn't controlled, and the cards were printed in advance. I would think the cards are an even distribution of numbers to avoid the possibility of too many people winning at one time.. Do they reveal which suitcase wins the $1000 to show it's on the up-and-up? (Like the way Pat Sajak shows where the million dollar card was on Wheel of Fortune's final)

[Alabaster Cruiser]

9 minutes ago, RedneckBob said:

Are y’all from Alabaster ?

Lived there 40 years.  Now 27 miles above Florida line.

[FlorenceItaly]

35 minutes ago, Alabaster Cruiser said:

Just trying to let others know since it is new to Holland.  That's what Cruise Critic used to be about.  Obviously not anymore from the rude replys.

I am glad you did.  Thanks so much for sharing!  I appreciate it very much.

[XBGuy]

In the words of Louis Renault, "I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here."

[oaktreerb]

55 minutes ago, Alabaster Cruiser said:

Just trying to let others know since it is new to Holland.  That's what Cruise Critic used to be about.  Obviously not anymore from the rude replys.

Maybe the replies are to post #1.  You described the game as a rip off.

 

 I appreciate you letting us know about the game and how it works.   I will not participate.  I don’t play bingo on the ship because I’m pretty sure I would lose!   For some people this will be “fun”.  If I could spend OBC I might try it!

 

 

[3rdGenCunarder]

12 minutes ago, oaktreerb said:

Maybe the replies are to post #1.  You described the game as a rip off.

 

 I appreciate you letting us know about the game and how it works.   I will not participate.  I don’t play bingo on the ship because I’m pretty sure I would lose!   For some people this will be “fun”.  If I could spend OBC I might try it!

 

 

 

Now that's an interesting point. If it's run by the casino, would you be able to use OBC? (Can you use OBC to buy bingo cards?)

[oaktreerb]

28 minutes ago, 3rdGenCunarder said:

 

Now that's an interesting point. If it's run by the casino, would you be able to use OBC? (Can you use OBC to buy bingo cards?)

I have asked and been told that OBC can not be used for bingo!  It can’t be used in the casino either.  But…..in this new game you can win $30 free play in the casino.  Maybe the game is run by the casino???

[Florida_gal_50]

1 hour ago, oaktreerb said:

Maybe the replies are to post #1.  You described the game as a rip off.

 

 I appreciate you letting us know about the game and how it works.   I will not participate.  I don’t play bingo on the ship because I’m pretty sure I would lose!   For some people this will be “fun”.  If I could spend OBC I might try it!

 

 

It is a rip off. That doesn't give license to be rude.

[kazu]

1 hour ago, 3rdGenCunarder said:

 

Now that's an interesting point. If it's run by the casino, would you be able to use OBC? (Can you use OBC to buy bingo cards?)

 

Yes - for sure, bingo is now run by the casino.

 

I have used OBC to buy the cards (and now tablet too).  Now, I normally have refundable and non refundable OBC but I watch both and was sure that my first 2 bingo games came off the non refundable (it didn’t last long - LOL)

[3rdGenCunarder]

1 hour ago, Florida_gal_50 said:

It is a rip off. That doesn't give license to be rude.

 

I wish the OP would come back and explain more about the game and what makes it a rip-off. True, lots of people didn't win anything. But aren't there people at Bingo who don't win anything? Did the ship promise someone in the audience would win $1000? Or did they say "you could win up to $1000"?

[oaktreerb]

3 minutes ago, 3rdGenCunarder said:

 

I wish the OP would come back and explain more about the game and what makes it a rip-off. True, lots of people didn't win anything. But aren't there people at Bingo who don't win anything? Did the ship promise someone in the audience would win $1000? Or did they say "you could win up to $1000"?

I thought it was explained pretty well in Post #3.  I’ve seen a similar game show on TV.  On TV it doesn’t  cost you anything to play.  It sounds like a lot of money was collected for a very small payout.  

[3rdGenCunarder]

3 minutes ago, oaktreerb said:

I thought it was explained pretty well in Post #3.  I’ve seen a similar game show on TV.  On TV it doesn’t  cost you anything to play.  It sounds like a lot of money was collected for a very small payout.  

 

I think I saw the game a few times, so I know the premise.

 

Apparently, the maximum price was set before people bought tickets. It isn't a 50/50 raffle where the payout increases as more tickets are bought. I want to know what HAL said up front to entice people to play. I also want to know how what was "computerized" and "easily controlled." Is the OP saying it was rigged?

[Hlitner]

6 hours ago, Alabaster Cruiser said:

It's a game show like the one that Howie Mandel did on TV.  Other lines have replaced bingo with it.  The Nieuw Statendam still had bingo too.  You buy cards to play.  $20 for 1, $30 for 2, and 3 cards for $40.  The World Stage theater was pretty full with players.  One person is pulled from audience to play on stage.  When they pick a number of suitcase to open, you open your card to see if your number matches their number.  Anyway everything is  computerized and very easily controlled.  The highest possible payoff for the player is $1000.  The very highest payoff for audience players is also $1000 or a free cruise of Hollands choice.  For our $40 investment to play we won a total of 3 $5.00 scratch tickets from which we won $5.  The highest payout in the whole audience was a couple of $30 free play in casino.  The highest pay to contestant was around $150.

Almost everyone was playing 3 cards. The payout was probably less than $400 for the whole theater.  What a take for Holland!

You have just described "gaming" or gambling.  The main winner is whoever owns the game.  Always!  In the long run the mathematical odds always work.

 

Hank

[Iamthesea]

5 hours ago, Alabaster Cruiser said:

Just trying to let others know since it is new to Holland.  That's what Cruise Critic used to be about.  Obviously not anymore from the rude replys.

Glad that this new game was brought up...thank you!  We do not paly BINGO anymore.  This might have been something we would have tried on our upcoming N. Statendam cruise.  Just to see how the game is played, I think we will attend, but not purchase cards.

[Alabaster Cruiser]

The OP says that for those who want to know more you can attend and find out .  I will not be posting anything else to try and "help" anyone else.