Rare ontheweb Posted July 24, 2023 #1 Share Posted July 24, 2023 The US Coast Guard is searching for a 30-year-old cruise passenger who Carnival says 'jumped' from a ship on its way back from the Bahamas (yahoo.com) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted July 24, 2023 #2 Share Posted July 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, ontheweb said: The US Coast Guard is searching for a 30-year-old cruise passenger who Carnival says 'jumped' from a ship on its way back from the Bahamas (yahoo.com) Sad. And, equally sad, Carnival seems to be the industry leader. Perhaps it's just because Carnival has so many ships, so they're going to have this happen more often, but... Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted July 24, 2023 #3 Share Posted July 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Sad. And, equally sad, Carnival seems to be the industry leader. Perhaps it's just because Carnival has so many ships, so they're going to have this happen more often, but... Tom Or just reported on more? We don't see European or Asian cruise news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted July 24, 2023 #4 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Elaine5715 said: Or just reported on more? We don't see European or Asian cruise news It may well be "an American thing"... dunno Anyone have the stats? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john91498 Posted July 24, 2023 #5 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Shocked the Elation is still around. She was my first carnival cruise back in 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare puppycanducruise Posted July 24, 2023 #6 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Sad news. Prayers for his family and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick93 Posted July 24, 2023 #7 Share Posted July 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Sad. And, equally sad, Carnival seems to be the industry leader. Perhaps it's just because Carnival has so many ships, so they're going to have this happen more often, but... Tom If someone is hell bend on jumping there is really nothing stopping them, but on Royal and NCL the ledges are higher in the common areas. The elation has very low railings. Also Carnival doesn’t have that many more ships and if you add the others there are many more than Carnival’s total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted July 24, 2023 #8 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: It may well be "an American thing"... dunno Anyone have the stats? Tom https://crew-center.com/news ? I don't think it an American thing but I do think it it is publicized more by American attorneys. I also think other cultures may not publish suicides to protect families. Edited July 24, 2023 by Elaine5715 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare angelsfort Posted July 24, 2023 #9 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Sad. And, equally sad, Carnival seems to be the industry leader. Perhaps it's just because Carnival has so many ships, so they're going to have this happen more often, but... Tom I'd be interested in seeing where you got these "stats" from... where did you get the information that Carnival is the industry leader in numbers of people jumping overboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted July 24, 2023 #10 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, angelsfort said: I'd be interested in seeing where you got these "stats" from... where did you get the information that Carnival is the industry leader in numbers of people jumping overboard? I didn't have the stats - mine was purely speculation at that point (saying they seem to be the industry leader). In a later post I asked if anyone had the stats. I did a quick search and found THIS (lots more out there). And, HERE'S another one. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted July 24, 2023 Author #11 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: I didn't have the stats - mine was purely speculation at that point (saying they seem to be the industry leader). In a later post I asked if anyone had the stats. I did a quick search and found THIS (lots more out there). And, HERE'S another one. Tom Thanks for the research. But I have a feeling that Carnival does not really want to be known as the leading cruise line for passengers to go overboard. 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted July 24, 2023 #12 Share Posted July 24, 2023 25 minutes ago, ontheweb said: Thanks for the research. But I have a feeling that Carnival does not really want to be known as the leading cruise line for passengers to go overboard. 🤦♂️ Interesting article HERE. (Disney has the technology, but being the "happiest place on earth", perhaps they don't need it - unless you're being stalked by Mickey or something!) Tom 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted July 24, 2023 #13 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Sad. And, equally sad, Carnival seems to be the industry leader. Perhaps it's just because Carnival has so many ships, so they're going to have this happen more often, but... Tom If true, perhaps it is because Carnival the price leader and the elite prefer other methods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlerkOne Posted July 24, 2023 #14 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Interesting article HERE. (Disney has the technology, but being the "happiest place on earth", perhaps they don't need it - unless you're being stalked by Mickey or something!) Tom I did not know that the idiot removed his clothes while still on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted July 24, 2023 #15 Share Posted July 24, 2023 nobody falls off a cruise ship. The height of the railing is white noise. Alcohol, depression or stupidity. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted July 24, 2023 #16 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, jimbo5544 said: nobody falls off a cruise ship. The height of the railing is white noise. Alcohol, depression or stupidity. ... or ... foul play 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwenyP Posted July 24, 2023 #17 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Well it goes without saying that suicidal thoughts crosses all income levels … that said something is fueling this. But … it could have been a simple as him being very drunk, starts arguing with GF and jumps off while thinking “I’ll show her.” Youthful stupidity perhaps combined with alcohol? The Elation cruises are “booze cruises” so I wouldn’t be surprised to find out if alcohol is involved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted July 24, 2023 #18 Share Posted July 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, GwenyP said: Well it goes without saying that suicidal thoughts crosses all income levels … that said something is fueling this. But … it could have been a simple as him being very drunk, starts arguing with GF and jumps off while thinking “I’ll show her.” Youthful stupidity perhaps combined with alcohol? The Elation cruises are “booze cruises” so I wouldn’t be surprised to find out if alcohol is involved. Suicide sites attract suicides. The Golden Gate is one example. There are several bridges in the area but Golden Gate is chosen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted July 25, 2023 #19 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Tom-n-Cheryl said: Sad. And, equally sad, Carnival seems to be the industry leader. Perhaps it's just because Carnival has so many ships, so they're going to have this happen more often, but... Tom Though Jumping/Falling is really nothing new. "Total of 212 overboard incidents on Cruise Ships from 2009 to 2019. But of those hundreds who went into the water, only 48 were successfully rescued" ...I remember one from years ago, Senior Citizen on return leg of Cruise packed his Suitcase in his Cabin and jumped. Was a while before they even realized he was Missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted July 25, 2023 #20 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Their lives, their choices, their decisions. I would not pass judgement on them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheelin Posted July 25, 2023 #21 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, sfaaa said: Their lives, their choices, their decisions. I would not pass judgement on them. They have to be hurting pretty badly to get to that point. Unfortunate that others cannot recognize or prevent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheelin Posted July 25, 2023 #22 Share Posted July 25, 2023 9 hours ago, Elaine5715 said: https://crew-center.com/news ? I don't think it an American thing but I do think it it is publicized more by American attorneys. I also think other cultures may not publish suicides to protect families. Not an American thing but Americans surely have an appetite for sensationalizing news 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTLCruiseGal Posted July 25, 2023 #23 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, 2wheelin said: Not an American thing but Americans surely have an appetite for sensationalizing news 1,000,000% agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tom-n-Cheryl Posted July 25, 2023 #24 Share Posted July 25, 2023 8 hours ago, 2wheelin said: Not an American thing but Americans surely have an appetite for sensationalizing news 6 hours ago, FTLCruiseGal said: 1,000,000% agree. Dirty Laundry - Don Henley ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eli_6 Posted July 25, 2023 #25 Share Posted July 25, 2023 So sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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