tine-tine Posted August 16, 2023 #26 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Momnipotent said: Exam, blood work, IV antiviral and antibiotic, meds. She says still in shock, please don't tell me that was all to diagnose and treat covid?🤯😱 !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badin Posted August 16, 2023 #27 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Sorry you have Covid. 🤮 Does Oceania have hand sanitizing stations available? Do they post prevention information such as cover your cough, wear a mask if you are feeling ill, wash your hands? Hope your case is mild.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 16, 2023 #28 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Badin said: Does Oceania have hand sanitizing stations available? Do they post prevention information such as cover your cough, wear a mask if you are feeling ill, wash your hands? Hope your case is mild.... most O pax are old enough to know this but sadly they do not follow common sense yes there are gel stations around the ship also public washroom sinks soap with running water sadly some people do not know how to use them 🙄 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisr Posted August 16, 2023 Author #29 Share Posted August 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Momnipotent said: Exam, blood work, IV antiviral and antibiotic, meds. Wow, I am sorry you got covid but the way people were hacking on the July 19 I am not the least bit surprised. I am shocked about the charges. I don’t understand the antibiotic meds as they do no work against viruses unless they were give for a bacterial infection in addition to covid. Will Medicare reimburse you as it could be described as an emergency treatment. Blood work seems odd, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisr Posted August 16, 2023 Author #30 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Badin said: Sorry you have Covid. 🤮 Does Oceania have hand sanitizing stations available? Do they post prevention information such as cover your cough, wear a mask if you are feeling ill, wash your hands? Hope your case is mild.... Yup, people just ignored those common sense rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DOJO466 Posted August 16, 2023 #31 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, cruisr said: Wow, I am sorry you got covid but the way people were hacking on the July 19 I am not the least bit surprised. I am shocked about the charges. I don’t understand the antibiotic meds as they do no work against viruses unless they were give for a bacterial infection in addition to covid. Will Medicare reimburse you as it could be described as an emergency treatment. Blood work seems odd, too. My visits to the medical center on my "free cruise" cost me $6900. This was in Oct 2019. I was admitted for 9 days in horrible hospital in Lisbon with Acute Bronchitis. Primary Care and Pulmonologist at home feel it was Covid at the very early days of it in Europe. Permanent lung damage. Medicare would not cover the bill but fortunately my travel insurance reimbursed me.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momnipotent Posted August 16, 2023 #32 Share Posted August 16, 2023 12 hours ago, Badin said: Sorry you have Covid. 🤮 Does Oceania have hand sanitizing stations available? Do they post prevention information such as cover your cough, wear a mask if you are feeling ill, wash your hands? Hope your case is mild.... Yes, quietly placed all around the ship. We ran into several that were empty. There are some notices, and I do commend them for not letting guests serve themselves at the buffet. But more should be done. It's our first cruise since 2019. Our 15th with Oceania. We have one more in November and I think that'll be it for us. It's too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 16, 2023 #33 Share Posted August 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Momnipotent said: . But more should be done. It's our first cruise since 2019. Suggestions? This will be our 1st cruise since 2019 I am going with EWO we are taking our masks & always have hand sanitizer with us & do use the gel stations We also try not to use the public w/c we go back to our cabin We wash our hands after the W/C (others do not) We wash our hands with soap & water we use gel when soap & water are not possible We try not to touch the railings elevator buttons with our hands If we must we wash them ASAP not germophobes but knowing that others do not have basic hygiene in their DNA we try to protect our selves YMMV 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SATaxman Posted August 16, 2023 #34 Share Posted August 16, 2023 36 minutes ago, LHT28 said: Suggestions? This will be our 1st cruise since 2019 I am going with EWO we are taking our masks & always have hand sanitizer with us & do use the gel stations We also try not to use the public w/c we go back to our cabin We wash our hands after the W/C (others do not) We wash our hands with soap & water we use gel when soap & water are not possible We try not to touch the railings elevator buttons with our hands If we must we wash them ASAP not germophobes but knowing that others do not have basic hygiene in their DNA we try to protect our selves YMMV I did all of this pre-Covid. Wiped down airplane seats, hotel rooms, cruise cabins. Used a wipe or gel after touching menus. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momnipotent Posted August 16, 2023 #35 Share Posted August 16, 2023 6 hours ago, LHT28 said: Suggestions? This will be our 1st cruise since 2019 I would like to see the cruise line require a negative test before boarding, but I realize that won't happen. We never shared tables or went to the shows. You will always have to ride elevators, shuttles and tenders with others. I'm truly at a loss as to how to avoid it because I feel like we were quite careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 16, 2023 #36 Share Posted August 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Momnipotent said: I would like to see the cruise line require a negative test before boarding, but I realize that won't happen. We never shared tables or went to the shows. You will always have to ride elevators, shuttles and tenders with others. I'm truly at a loss as to how to avoid it because I feel like we were quite careful. We avoided it for 3 years DH went to the Legion in Feb to play snooker 2 days later he was coughing .. took the test 2 days later I got it Unless you stay home where you know your house is sterile (relatively clean in my case) You just need to do your best to stay healthy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisr Posted August 16, 2023 Author #37 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Avoid tour buses and the concierge lounges. Too many people in each and poor circulation. Don’t play trivia without a mask and don’t wait in the lounge as people were crammed in there waiting for their tours/tenders etc. Get out of the lifts is someone is coughing and hope you fellow passengers are more considerate than the lot on July 19. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartfelttraveler Posted August 16, 2023 #38 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Husband and I went to Costa Rica for two weeks June of 2022. We were in the rain every day for two weeks. We wore our mask religiously and sanitized every place we went. I came home with a cold - not sick. Husband had a medical procedure the week we got home so we both took covid tests. I was positive and he was negative. Stop reading here if you are easily offended.... We shared a bed, food, drinks and kissed a lot. He never got sick. I only had my cold/Covid symptoms for about 3 1/2 days. Tested negative after six days. We have been on several trips since then and managed to stay healthy. If we see people coughing and looking run down, we start wearing our masks. I don't know how well they actually work, but our philosophy is that it is better safe than sorry. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted August 16, 2023 #39 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, cruisr said: Will Medicare reimburse you as it could be described as an emergency treatment. FYI, Medicare does not work out of the US. This is why once you go on Medicare it's important to have Travel Insurance or a supplement that will cover you out of the country. I've been spoiled with a medical plan that covers internationally, fortunately never had to use it. That all comes to an end at the end of the month. But I'll save enough on premiums to afford another cruise annually. Edited August 16, 2023 by ORV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1985rz1 Posted August 16, 2023 #40 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, ORV said: FYI, Medicare does not work out of the US. This is why once you go on Medicare it's important to have Travel Insurance or a supplement that will cover you out of the country. I've been spoiled with a medical plan that covers internationally, fortunately never had to use it. That all comes to an end at the end of the month. But I'll save enough on premiums to afford another cruise annually. As you say, some Medicare Supplement plans do cover foreign travel. Ours has a $250 deductible per year and pays 80% of costs to a lifetime maximum of $50,000. Of course not every plan is available in every state. Edited August 16, 2023 by 1985rz1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protseq Posted August 17, 2023 #41 Share Posted August 17, 2023 On 8/16/2023 at 1:54 PM, Heartfelttraveler said: Husband and I went to Costa Rica for two weeks June of 2022. We were in the rain every day for two weeks. We wore our mask religiously and sanitized every place we went. I came home with a cold - not sick. Husband had a medical procedure the week we got home so we both took covid tests. I was positive and he was negative. Stop reading here if you are easily offended.... We shared a bed, food, drinks and kissed a lot. He never got sick. I only had my cold/Covid symptoms for about 3 1/2 days. Tested negative after six days. We have been on several trips since then and managed to stay healthy. If we see people coughing and looking run down, we start wearing our masks. I don't know how well they actually work, but our philosophy is that it is better safe than sorry. This time last year, my wife and I took back to back Princess cruises. First leg was a Norway cruise, followed by a repositioning cruise back to the States. We self-tested for the second leg and were both negative for Covid. Repositioning cruise started out fine, but on the last port visit, many were coughing and sneezing on the tour bus. Well, I came down with covid, wife was negative, and I was quarantined in a separate cabin. Yes, keep those masks handy, avoid those crowded elevators (possibly were I got infected). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vineyard View Posted August 18, 2023 #42 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Just one more reason for us to not take bus tours. We have always avoided them. We took an excursion tour earlier this year using an bus early on our first sailing since Covid (not Oceania) and it just reminded us how much we dislike that situation. No one was coughing for the most part on the entire cruise. Towards the end two women were coughing everywhere, going into all venues, and never covering their mouths. The entire cruise though we avoided crowded areas, used stations, ate outdoors or at tables away from others. Towards the end of the cruise we ended up in a crowded situation in a lounge after we had ordered caviar, where one of those women sat near us and was coughing her head off and not covering her mouth. We should have walked away from the caviar. I caught it for the first time with symptoms starting on the plane as we were almost home. Isolated 10 days, took paxlovid. This after being so strict no one came in our home for a year during the beginning and only entertaining outdoors for extended times, only for an inconsiderate, selfish human who decided she cared only for herself. Who knows how many people she spread it to. I guess my take away is that if we want to travel, we have to accept that there are selfish people in all walks of life about a lot of things, including illness. We risk this or hibernate and stop traveling. DH and I did that long enough, and we aren’t getting any younger. So hopefully we still have some great adventures coming up. We can’t control what others do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SATaxman Posted August 18, 2023 #43 Share Posted August 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Vineyard View said: Just one more reason for us to not take bus tours. We have always avoided them. We took an excursion tour earlier this year using an bus early on our first sailing since Covid (not Oceania) and it just reminded us how much we dislike that situation. No one was coughing for the most part on the entire cruise. Towards the end two women were coughing everywhere, going into all venues, and never covering their mouths. The entire cruise though we avoided crowded areas, used stations, ate outdoors or at tables away from others. Towards the end of the cruise we ended up in a crowded situation in a lounge after we had ordered caviar, where one of those women sat near us and was coughing her head off and not covering her mouth. We should have walked away from the caviar. I caught it for the first time with symptoms starting on the plane as we were almost home. Isolated 10 days, took paxlovid. This after being so strict no one came in our home for a year during the beginning and only entertaining outdoors for extended times, only for an inconsiderate, selfish human who decided she cared only for herself. Who knows how many people she spread it to. I guess my take away is that if we want to travel, we have to accept that there are selfish people in all walks of life about a lot of things, including illness. We risk this or hibernate and stop traveling. DH and I did that long enough, and we aren’t getting any younger. So hopefully we still have some great adventures coming up. We can’t control what others do. This concerns me. We have 8 ports on our next O cruise. 2 we are doing our own thing, have been before. 2 are 16 and under O tours. The other 4 do not have the 16 and under options. Big busses and people coughing sounds like a disastrous combination. Still looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vineyard View Posted August 18, 2023 #44 Share Posted August 18, 2023 We booked one using the credits for Tunisia 16 and under. Wouldn’t have really wanted to explore that port independent. Using the rest of the credits I used for a boat - not sure if it’s a yacht as described or a catamaran as someone else had, but it’s not a bus. It’s DIY or private on the rest of the ports for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrHemlock Posted August 19, 2023 #45 Share Posted August 19, 2023 21 hours ago, Vineyard View said: We booked one using the credits for Tunisia 16 and under. The dilemma remains the same. "16 and under" doesn't guarantee more space between coughers; more likely, it just means a smaller vehicle designed to carry 16 people in basically the same configuration as a larger bus (if not even tighter, like a big minivan with bench seats rather than individual). There simply is no better solution than "protect yourself" -- and even that is by no means foolproof. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vineyard View Posted August 19, 2023 #46 Share Posted August 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, DrHemlock said: The dilemma remains the same. "16 and under" doesn't guarantee more space between coughers; more likely, it just means a smaller vehicle designed to carry 16 people in basically the same configuration as a larger bus (if not even tighter, like a big minivan with bench seats rather than individual). There simply is no better solution than "protect yourself" -- and even that is by no means foolproof. Cannot disagree with you. Absolutely the truth. There are very few places we sail to that we would feel more comfortable with an organized ship group. Tunisia is one of them, so we will need to be extra careful. The boat in Santorini I am much more comfortable with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberts2005 Posted August 19, 2023 #47 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, DrHemlock said: The dilemma remains the same. "16 and under" doesn't guarantee more space between coughers; more likely, it just means a smaller vehicle designed to carry 16 people in basically the same configuration as a larger bus (if not even tighter, like a big minivan with bench seats rather than individual). There simply is no better solution than "protect yourself" -- and even that is by no means foolproof. We did the small group tour last year in Israel. Small van and full. Better off in a large bus sitting in the back.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthomas Posted August 19, 2023 #48 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Did you do that with the ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vineyard View Posted August 19, 2023 #49 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, roberts2005 said: We did the small group tour last year in Israel. Small van and full. Better off in a large bus sitting in the back.. That is disheartening to hear, but thanks for the warning. Maybe Tunisia will be an in port sea day. Particularly since it is an 8 1/2 hr day. Will have to think about this. Edited August 19, 2023 by Vineyard View Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberts2005 Posted August 19, 2023 #50 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Years ago when we did Tunisia, we went by ship tour bus to Carthage and then to souk. Not to much bus time. Nothing in the port area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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