chisoxfan Posted February 15 #176 Share Posted February 15 4 hours ago, the penguins said: The stat only enables you to turn the settings up and down not off. With your the balcony door left open this puts a strain on the whole system as it tries to maintain the temperature you have set against the massive inflow of uncontrolled air from outside. Clearly you don't want to accept that your actions can/will affect passengers in the adjoining cabin(s). Just ask an Engineer/Environmental Officer on the ship and he/she will happy to give you a detailed explanation. I will be sure to seek out the Environmental officer on my next cruise. He is the guy (on Ascent) who decided you cannot drink in the Retreat Pool because he was afraid pool water might be tainted when he does his testing. On E Class balconies I know the air is shut off when balcony is open. There is a prox switch at door. I am sure the temp of the room is higher and there is some very small air exchange to outside from cabin door. Our evening room temp on last cruise went up to maybe 70/71 F. So if this is causing a drastic temp situation with nearby rooms trying to stay at 67? then the air system is improperly sized, or air flow/insulation between rooms is a problem. Bottom line is I don't think I need to feel like a 'culprit' to have a drink in the pool (non glass container) or have my balcony open in the evening if I choose. JMHO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise till you drop Posted February 15 #177 Share Posted February 15 On 2/13/2024 at 9:31 AM, Spif Barwunkel said: I would ask, who's fault would that be? Good question. Probably what the main issue is IV’s are listed under “Verandah” category of rooms and when one thinks of Verandah, they probably assume a true balcony. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan Posted February 15 #178 Share Posted February 15 29 minutes ago, Cruise till you drop said: Good question. Probably what the main issue is IV’s are listed under “Verandah” category of rooms and when one thinks of Verandah, they probably assume a true balcony. Good point. It isn't a veranda and it isn't infinite. How about 'small sunroom with large window that opens'? I have to admit, the name initially got me excited as a dedicated S class X cruiser. Wow, 'an infinite veranda'.... sounded great until I learned what it really was. JMHO. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spif Barwunkel Posted February 15 #179 Share Posted February 15 I wonder if IV naysayers would have been more accepting if Celebrity referred to them as French Balconies. That fits the description by having a window that opens and closes. But now you get to the part where a French Balcony typically has no table or chairs. So, if that were the case and in order to fulfill the exact definition, Celebrity would have no furniture on those verandas. Does that work for you? X would certainly not have to worry about foot stools. Know what you are getting, or don't get. Too many variables to worry about one definition. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan Posted February 15 #180 Share Posted February 15 Infinite Veranda = Inflation Reduction Act or Patriot Act. 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguins Posted February 15 #181 Share Posted February 15 4 hours ago, chisoxfan said: I will be sure to seek out the Environmental officer on my next cruise. He is the guy (on Ascent) who decided you cannot drink in the Retreat Pool because he was afraid pool water might be tainted when he does his testing. On E Class balconies I know the air is shut off when balcony is open. There is a prox switch at door. I am sure the temp of the room is higher and there is some very small air exchange to outside from cabin door. Our evening room temp on last cruise went up to maybe 70/71 F. So if this is causing a drastic temp situation with nearby rooms trying to stay at 67? then the air system is improperly sized, or air flow/insulation between rooms is a problem. Bottom line is I don't think I need to feel like a 'culprit' to have a drink in the pool (non glass container) or have my balcony open in the evening if I choose. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguins Posted February 15 #182 Share Posted February 15 Just now, the penguins said: 4 hours ago, chisoxfan said: I will be sure to seek out the Environmental officer on my next cruise. He is the guy (on Ascent) who decided you cannot drink in the Retreat Pool because he was afraid pool water might be tainted when he does his testing. On E Class balconies I know the air is shut off when balcony is open. There is a prox switch at door. I am sure the temp of the room is higher and there is some very small air exchange to outside from cabin door. Our evening room temp on last cruise went up to maybe 70/71 F. So if this is causing a drastic temp situation with nearby rooms trying to stay at 67? then the air system is improperly sized, or air flow/insulation between rooms is a problem. Bottom line is I don't think I need to feel like a 'culprit' to have a drink in the pool (non glass container) or have my balcony open in the evening if I choose. JMHO sorry I am confused. was your last cruise on E class or S class? If it was S class and you were in a normal balcony then sorry but yes "having your balcony door open in the evening" or any other time is wrong, the sign on the door makes it very clear and it does affect your neighbours. Whether you feel "like a culprit" is up to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted February 15 #183 Share Posted February 15 If the cruise company gives you a cabin with a door / window that opens , than keep it open if you feel like it M class ships have individual fancoil units in cabin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghog Posted February 15 #184 Share Posted February 15 Ocean View with a sliding window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan Posted February 15 #185 Share Posted February 15 39 minutes ago, the penguins said: sorry I am confused. was your last cruise on E class or S class? If it was S class and you were in a normal balcony then sorry but yes "having your balcony door open in the evening" or any other time is wrong, the sign on the door makes it very clear and it does affect your neighbours. Whether you feel "like a culprit" is up to you. Don't be confused. I said E class and mentioned Ascent. My last cruises were on Ascent and Apex in balconies. So I have your blessing to sleep with the balcony open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway180 Posted February 15 #186 Share Posted February 15 35 minutes ago, chisoxfan said: Don't be confused. I said E class and mentioned Ascent. My last cruises were on Ascent and Apex in balconies. So I have your blessing to sleep with the balcony open? You paid for the room, do whatever makes you happy. The only time on S class that it truly makes a difference , is opening your cabin door with the slider open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted February 16 #187 Share Posted February 16 (edited) Well I can tell you that on M class our sliding glass door was open a crack all of the time. The door would not close all of the way. Called maintenance once ... Edited February 16 by NMTraveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguins Posted February 16 #188 Share Posted February 16 13 hours ago, chisoxfan said: Don't be confused. I said E class and mentioned Ascent. My last cruises were on Ascent and Apex in balconies. So I have your blessing to sleep with the balcony open? On E class not an issue as the aircon turns off. On S and M class no one needs my blessing or approval just to accept that the system isn't designed to function that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted February 17 #189 Share Posted February 17 Ti us it's a small sunroom or mini wintergarden style area but we have come to enjoy it! Word " balcony" should be dropped. For our next cruise we booked a real balc again..so we can compare. After that we will be back to an SV ..worried about ash on the big balc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxfan Posted February 17 #190 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, hcat said: Ti us it's a small sunroom or mini wintergarden style area but we have come to enjoy it! Word " balcony" should be dropped. For our next cruise we booked a real balc again..so we can compare. After that we will be back to an SV ..worried about ash on the big balc.. Glad you enjoyed it and hope you have a great cruise on your balcony. I did see an interesting YT video from a frequent cruiser who enjoyed her IV with bed by door but felt it was much less favorable with bed by balcony. Just thought it interesting and something I would not have considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vagabond Knight Posted February 17 #191 Share Posted February 17 Well, our neighbor just returned from an Apex cruise in an "infinite veranda" cabin and said never again. Said they did not like the "fake balcony" at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. B. Posted February 17 #192 Share Posted February 17 5 hours ago, Vagabond Knight said: Well, our neighbor just returned from an Apex cruise in an "infinite veranda" cabin and said never again. Said they did not like the "fake balcony" at all. I hate it but my DW likes it. I guess you can figure out how that ends up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare alyssamma Posted February 17 #193 Share Posted February 17 On 2/15/2024 at 8:07 AM, chisoxfan said: On E Class balconies I know the air is shut off when balcony is open. There is a prox switch at door. I am sure the temp of the room is higher and there is some very small air exchange to outside from cabin door. Our evening room temp on last cruise went up to maybe 70/71 F. So if this is causing a drastic temp situation with nearby rooms trying to stay at 67? then the air system is improperly sized, or air flow/insulation between rooms is a problem. Bottom line is I don't think I need to feel like a 'culprit' to have a drink in the pool (non glass container) or have my balcony open in the evening if I choose. JMHO Are you saying the AC goes off when the *doors* are open or when the *window* is let down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvcrusn Posted February 17 #194 Share Posted February 17 22 minutes ago, alyssamma said: Are you saying the AC goes off when the *doors* are open or when the *window* is let down? When the window is down the AC goes off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwokpot Posted February 17 #195 Share Posted February 17 26 minutes ago, alyssamma said: Are you saying the AC goes off when the *doors* are open or when the *window* is let down? The doors don't do anything. The window is what controls the HVAC to turn on or off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted February 17 #196 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, D. B. said: I hate it but my DW likes it. I guess you can figure out how that ends up? The phrase "Suck it up, buttercup" comes to mind 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare alyssamma Posted February 17 #197 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Luvcrusn said: When the window is down the AC goes off. 1 hour ago, kwokpot said: 2 hours ago, alyssamma said: or when the *window* is let down? The doors don't do anything. The window is what controls the HVAC to turn on or off. I am well aware of this... Sitting in an IV on the Ascent right now. This is why I asked @chisoxfan what was meant by "balcony open" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakepatrol Posted February 17 #198 Share Posted February 17 Well - I don’t see the property brothers coming aboard anytime soon with sledgehammers in tow to redesign the balconies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted February 17 #199 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, D. B. said: I hate it but my DW likes it. I guess you can figure out how that ends up? Just go out on your balcony at 3 AM and see how DW likes that 😃 Perfectly doable on a real balcony if you are quiet... That is one of the drawbacks of the design... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichYak Posted February 17 #200 Share Posted February 17 59 minutes ago, alyssamma said: I am well aware of this... Sitting in an IV on the Ascent right now. This is why I asked @chisoxfan what was meant by "balcony open" It’s clear to me that @chisoxfan is referring to balcony doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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