Email from X re Legionella.

[dock]

We received an email this morning re two people on a January sailing testing positive for Legionella. 
 

Did anyone else receive this memo?

We were on the Feb 11th- 18th sailing. 
10118. 

 

Im curious if others on that or other sailings received the email and if it’s a generic email or  specific to certain cabins or decks. 

Thanks. 

Edited March 4 by dock

[RTShaker]

3 minutes ago, dock said:

We received an email this morning re two people on a January sailing testing positive for Legionella. 
 

Did anyone else receive this memo?

We were on the Feb 11th- 18th sailing. 
10118. 

 

Im curious if others on that or other sailings received the email and if it’s a generic email or  specific to certain cabins or decks. 

Thanks. 

Which ship?

[Altamar]

We too received this and we haven’t sailed celebrity since June 2023.

[dock]

Oops forgot to add that .Ascent. 

Am a bit frazzled as picked up a cold post cruise.

[If only]

Just now, dock said:

Oops forgot to add that .Ascent. 

Am a bit frazzled as picked up a cold post cruise.

Maybe you should get checked out to be sure it’s just a cold.

[janabelle61]

I got off Ascent this morning and received the email.

[dock]

@Altamar, thanks. I feel a bit relieved  if it’s just a generic memo to all.

 

Plan on getting tested tomorrow anyway. Just to make sure. 

 

Edited March 4 by dock

[Arizona Wildcat]

The email would have gone out to passengers who were identified as having significant contact with those who tested positive.  Could be adjacent cabins, dinner mates or whatever.

 

Possibly subsequent cruises, but January is a while ago 

Edited March 4 by Arizona Wildcat

[Altamar]

You’re welcome dock. I too believe it was generic  since we sailed in June.

[bigbeergut]

13 minutes ago, Altamar said:

You’re welcome dock. I too believe it was generic  since we sailed in June.

 

Maybe, but if they identified a source on the Ascent, perhaps they decided to send out notices to a larger group.

[omahabob]

28 minutes ago, Arizona Wildcat said:

The email would have gone out to passengers who were identified as having significant contact with those who tested positive.  Could be adjacent cabins, dinner mates or whatever.

 

Possibly subsequent cruises, but January is a while ago 

Not likely the criteria, since Legionella isn't contagious. Cruise ships usually have issues with it in the potable water systems. Drinking the water won't give it to you, but showering with it could, because it's transmitted via aerosolized water particles. I would think everyone on that cruise would have gotten the email.

[LMD]

We were on the February 18th cruise and received the letter this morning. 

[keesar]

1 hour ago, dock said:

We received an email this morning re two people on a January sailing testing positive for Legionella. 
 

Did anyone else receive this memo?

We were on the Feb 11th- 18th sailing. 
10118. 

 

Im curious if others on that or other sailings received the email and if it’s a generic email or  specific to certain cabins or decks. 

Thanks. 

We were on the Ascent the week after you.  9th floor if that makes any difference.  I can tell you that the water had a 'different' taste to it and was not like the water of other ships.  I am not sure this is related but  the taste  was quite noticeable to me.  

[hcat]

We were on Ascent 1/28.  Luckily we. did not have that  illness,  but both of us had a terrible flu like something.. congestion ..muscle aches etc after we got home .It .was not Covid but awful..  No way to know where we picked it up. Drove home from port, stopped for gas and pizza later..and next day BOOM!

[Folsomdoc]

This could be a problem if more cases emerge in people who have sailed this ship. As it is, if it’s only a couple of folks they could have contracted it at the hotel prior to sailing. On a ship it could be from the potable water system, the AC, the pools or hot tubs. Disinfecting can be quite a chore involving draining all these streams, flushing with chlorine. Likely this has been reported to the CDC and they will be testing for a source on the ship.

[christraveller]

Legionella resource from the Center for Disease Control:

https://www.cdc.gov/legionella/about/causes-transmission.html

 

the facts from the ultimate scientific source.

 

[H2OH!]

can someone post the content of the email? Just curious. We were on the 1/21/24 sailing- beautiful ship and service was fantastic. 

[Pushka]

Legionella exists in the airconditioning system. Once detected it's not known how long prior that people might be infected. Once detected the ship airconditioning needs significant cleaning and testing. You don't need to have close contact with a person, but the airconditioning system. 

[Lena11033]

20 minutes ago, H2OH! said:

can someone post the content of the email? Just curious. We were on the 1/21/24 sailing- beautiful ship and service was fantastic. 

 

 

[chengkp75]

21 minutes ago, Pushka said:

Legionella exists in the airconditioning system. Once detected it's not known how long prior that people might be infected. Once detected the ship airconditioning needs significant cleaning and testing. You don't need to have close contact with a person, but the airconditioning system. 

Legionella needs water to remain viable, and the air in the HVAC system on ships tends to be very dry, so the major spot where legionella grows is the condensate pans under the cooling coils.  These pans are required to have sanitizing pads placed in them for just this reason.  Therefore, the main source of possible legionella infection on cruise ships are the shower heads, where there is always just a little water in the shower head when turned off, and which then becomes aerosolized when the shower is turned on.  For this reason, the shower heads on cruise ships are scheduled to be taken off every 6 months and soaked in bleach.

 

So, while missed maintenance in either case (HVAC condensate pan or shower heads), the fact that there are only about 70 condensate pans on the ship, but a couple of thousand shower heads means that the odds on favorite for being missed is with the shower heads.  Also, the condensate pan pads are changed more frequently than the shower heads are sanitized.

[hcat]

10 hours ago, hcat said:

We were on Ascent 1/28.  Luckily we. did not have that  illness,  but both of us had a terrible flu like something.. congestion ..muscle aches etc after we got home .It .was not Covid but awful..  No way to know where we picked it up. Drove home from port, stopped for gas and pizza later..and next day BOOM!

After reading the letter,..maybe we did have it. .Never had such terrible muscle aches  cramps..very bad sides of body, neck and shoulders..No way to know and we are quite over it now.

 

  Going to clean our shower head.  We do the sinks but never thought of the showers..

[chengkp75]

27 minutes ago, hcat said:

After reading the letter,..maybe we did have it. .Never had such terrible muscle aches  cramps..very bad sides of body, neck and shoulders..No way to know and we are quite over it now.

 

  Going to clean our shower head.  We do the sinks but never thought of the showers..

Just be aware that bleach will tend to remove the "chrome plating" on plastic shower heads.

[hcat]

46 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

Just be aware that bleach will tend to remove the "chrome plating" on plastic shower heads.

thanks....would vinegar work?

[tfred]

1 hour ago, hcat said:

After reading the letter,..maybe we did have it. .Never had such terrible muscle aches  cramps..very bad sides of body, neck and shoulders..No way to know and we are quite over it now.

 

  Going to clean our shower head.  We do the sinks but never thought of the showers..

ever have norovirus?  We contacted it from an event here in our condo complex (yes, it exists outside of a cruise ship) and those symptoms mirror ours. 2 day incubation for most here and then 3-4 days of those symptoms .  

[gold1953]

4 minutes ago, tfred said:

ever have norovirus?  We contacted it from an event here in our condo complex (yes, it exists outside of a cruise ship) and those symptoms mirror ours. 2 day incubation for most here and then 3-4 days of those symptoms .  

A seniors low income apartment building where I live had a legionella outbreak and yes noro is everwhere