Rare TwoMisfits Posted June 9 #26 Share Posted June 9 Kid events are run at RCCL bars - they don't use a "non-bar" room for pretty much any event. So, for most bars which host the family events, your kids would fine. That said, Rising Tide did NOT host any events on my RCCL ship, so I would assume they might be more strict on ages and trying to stay in the "bar" concept. But Bolero's, On Air, Schooner, etc - it's a free-for-all b/c RCCL does want it to be a free-for-all with all ages activities specifically run in those areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzlechest Posted June 9 #27 Share Posted June 9 1 hour ago, gatour said: Windjammer is most certainly a bar and has couches and seats that are not in a "common" area. Whereas the the pub is a bar, but the seating outside along the the promenade I would consider to be in a common area. The Windjammer has no high-tops. All those seats are open to anyone. They serve more coffee from the Windjammer "bar" than alcohol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyCruiserUK Posted June 9 #28 Share Posted June 9 Never had an issue on the rising tide. Our 10 yr old daughter sits with us on the stools and enjoys a non alcoholic cocktail. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare S.A.M.J.R. Posted June 9 #29 Share Posted June 9 Why are so many people against kids sitting with their parents in bat (on the ship)? Assuming the kids are behaving (which some adults need to learn how to do), where's the harm? And isn't it up to RCCL to enforce (or not)? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keishashadow Posted June 9 Author #30 Share Posted June 9 I am glad they do offer some adult only venues. Solarium comes to mind aah. Won’t be lounging there on upcoming trip tho Since the rising tide is so, well, visible to all ages in the area; my thots it would welcome teens to sit (quietly) with parental units for a quick drink. If we are informed it’s a no go, then we will surely abide. perhaps a trade off to allow family cocktail hour there before first MDR seating would be an option? Know many restaurant/bars in touristy areas that have that sort of kid curfew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted June 10 #31 Share Posted June 10 20 hours ago, S.A.M.J.R. said: Why are so many people against kids sitting with their parents in bat (on the ship)? Assuming the kids are behaving (which some adults need to learn how to do), where's the harm? And isn't it up to RCCL to enforce (or not)? I think we can all agree that Royal Caribbean is catering to families. This means that they want families to feel welcome throughout the ship. That runs into conflict with the large number of venues that serve alcohol. If the parents want to enjoy an adult beverage then I think that they should be able to do so with their children present (except in the casino and Solarium). The issue is the impact the children have on other guests when the children (or parents) do not behave appropriately for the venue. A bar is not a playground. Certainly there are situations where adults (perhaps inebriated) do not behave well, and those adults should be asked to leave. But it becomes more difficult to ask children to be removed if they are just acting like children. Last month I was sitting in the R Bar and several children were running around the lounge area being disruptive. The parents were engrossed in their conversation and ignoring the kids. So long as that is permitted, then I guess the bars are not always going to be great places to sit and enjoy a drink. All I would ask of others is to be considerate. Then I see no harm. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted June 10 #32 Share Posted June 10 Was interesting to see the rising tide bar so sparse of seats the last few times, and those seats did not look comfortable. Used to have much more available...and indeed...no place to sit "at the bar". Was not a draw for us any longer as it lost that cozy feeling. I would think it would be totally boring for kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkacmom Posted June 10 #33 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, island lady said: Was interesting to see the rising tide bar so sparse of seats the last few times, and those seats did not look comfortable. Used to have much more available...and indeed...no place to sit "at the bar". Was not a draw for us any longer as it lost that cozy feeling. I would think it would be totally boring for kids. But not all “kids” will be bored. On the ship, one is considered a “kid” until 21. On land, if you are not 21, you can’t sit at the bar, and some establishments don’t allow entry for under 21. On cruise ships, those under 21 can still be with their parents at bars, on our last cruise my kids ranged from 14 - 20 and really liked meeting up in a lounge before dinner for happy hour, even though they weren’t drinking alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tree_skier Posted June 10 #34 Share Posted June 10 I would love for them to offer more adult only areas on the ship... I doubt it'll happen but it would be great. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted June 10 #35 Share Posted June 10 The main issue at Rising Tide is that it's very limited seating. And, my personal opinion is kids don't belong in bars. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted June 10 #36 Share Posted June 10 2 hours ago, mjkacmom said: But not all “kids” will be bored. On the ship, one is considered a “kid” until 21. On land, if you are not 21, you can’t sit at the bar, and some establishments don’t allow entry for under 21. On cruise ships, those under 21 can still be with their parents at bars, on our last cruise my kids ranged from 14 - 20 and really liked meeting up in a lounge before dinner for happy hour, even though they weren’t drinking alcohol. Have you taken your kids for a ride on the rising tide bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted June 10 #37 Share Posted June 10 1 hour ago, island lady said: Have you taken your kids for a ride on the rising tide bar? I will take my kid for a ride when we sail on Symphony in September. My kid is 4.5 ... in dog years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted June 10 #38 Share Posted June 10 24 minutes ago, Another_Critic said: I will take my kid for a ride when we sail on Symphony in September. My kid is 4.5 ... in dog years. Woof! 😄 🐶 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare S.A.M.J.R. Posted June 11 #39 Share Posted June 11 8 hours ago, Pratique said: I think we can all agree that Royal Caribbean is catering to families. This means that they want families to feel welcome throughout the ship. That runs into conflict with the large number of venues that serve alcohol. If the parents want to enjoy an adult beverage then I think that they should be able to do so with their children present (except in the casino and Solarium). The issue is the impact the children have on other guests when the children (or parents) do not behave appropriately for the venue. A bar is not a playground. Certainly there are situations where adults (perhaps inebriated) do not behave well, and those adults should be asked to leave. But it becomes more difficult to ask children to be removed if they are just acting like children. Last month I was sitting in the R Bar and several children were running around the lounge area being disruptive. The parents were engrossed in their conversation and ignoring the kids. So long as that is permitted, then I guess the bars are not always going to be great places to sit and enjoy a drink. All I would ask of others is to be considerate. Then I see no harm. And that's up to Royal to enforce. No different than I'd expect Royal to ask the party to control the kids or leave if they were acting up in a restaurant, the theater, or a shop. As far as kids not allowed in bars on land, that probably has more to do with laws than the choice of the bar owner. I agree, if kids are disturbing other guests, they (and their adult chaperones) can and should be asked to leave. If they are sitting, enjoying a non-alcoholic beverage, talking to their party, I don't see the problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare S.A.M.J.R. Posted June 11 #40 Share Posted June 11 7 hours ago, BND said: The main issue at Rising Tide is that it's very limited seating. And, my personal opinion is kids don't belong in bars. OK, why (assuming the kids are behaved)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted June 11 #41 Share Posted June 11 36 minutes ago, S.A.M.J.R. said: And that's up to Royal to enforce. No different than I'd expect Royal to ask the party to control the kids or leave if they were acting up in a restaurant, the theater, or a shop. As far as kids not allowed in bars on land, that probably has more to do with laws than the choice of the bar owner. I agree, if kids are disturbing other guests, they (and their adult chaperones) can and should be asked to leave. If they are sitting, enjoying a non-alcoholic beverage, talking to their party, I don't see the problem. Royal will not do that. Especially if the ship has a large number of children on board. On a recent cruise we asked to be seated away from some children who were already in the restaurant (Giovanni’s) and we were. Until a large party arrived and had to be seated near us because it was the only large table available. The children were misbehaving before they were even seated, but the maitre d seated them anyway. And then he immediately apologized to us and moved us away from them. But whatever, I guess that’s the reality on a cruise ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted June 11 #42 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, S.A.M.J.R. said: OK, why (assuming the kids are behaved)? Tell me why they belong in a place where adults are drinking and probably having adult conversations? Kids don't have to do everything or go everywhere adults do. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare S.A.M.J.R. Posted June 11 #43 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, BND said: Tell me why they belong in a place where adults are drinking and probably having adult conversations? Kids don't have to do everything or go everywhere adults do. Because adults are drinking all over the ship (in/around pools, at shows, restaurants, pretty much everywhere) and having adult conversations all over the ship? What exactly are you talking about that you don't want kids to hear you say? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverbeenhere Posted June 11 #44 Share Posted June 11 “Inverted pineapple meeting starts at 11pm, be at my stateroom at a quarter til”. ?? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Baltic Posted June 11 #45 Share Posted June 11 6 hours ago, S.A.M.J.R. said: Because adults are drinking all over the ship (in/around pools, at shows, restaurants, pretty much everywhere) and having adult conversations all over the ship? What exactly are you talking about that you don't want kids to hear you say? Exactly this. The cruise ship is a completely abnormal environment where drinking is happening everywhere, even the windjammer. As always it sounds like some people on CC need to move cruise line to one who doesn’t target families as their core demographic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamilyCruiserUK Posted June 11 #46 Share Posted June 11 On 6/9/2024 at 7:50 PM, S.A.M.J.R. said: Why are so many people against kids sitting with their parents in bat (on the ship)? Assuming the kids are behaving (which some adults need to learn how to do), where's the harm? And isn't it up to RCCL to enforce (or not)? I honestly think its more of a cultural thing. Here in Europe and the UK you will see kids of all ages in pubs, under supervision. Most bars are family friendly. As long as children are behaved then its great. But also kids will want to move and that again as long as its safe play then great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Scottdalfonso Posted June 11 #47 Share Posted June 11 Kids IN bars on a ship is fine, and even encouraged. Kids AT the bar on a ship (and especially on land) I am fine with limiting. I never let my kid sit at the bar for more than a minute or two while he's ordering a soda or something. MAYBE if i's a bigger bar and there are seats available he can hang... but I think, in the most part, the physical bar should be left for adults. Kids can sit at the tables, high tops and surrounding areas IN and around the bar. Especially bars like Playmakers that might only have 7-8 seats, leave those for people of age. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleJoefromKokomo Posted June 11 #48 Share Posted June 11 19 hours ago, Pratique said: Last month I was sitting in the R Bar and several children were running around the lounge area being disruptive. The parents were engrossed in their conversation and ignoring the kids. I have seen 4-5 year kids SITTING and playing at the dancefloor at Boleros at 10 pm in the evening while their parents were drinking and not paying attention. I never wish harm on anyone but it would be fun if some of the dancing couples accidently stepped on some of the toys or phones the kids were playing with. I guess then the parents would react immedeatly.. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseguy1016 Posted June 11 #49 Share Posted June 11 What difference does it make who is sitting in the chair? Can't a family sit together? Why should the chairs be saved for adults only? Because a kid is not drinking alcohol? What if my wife and I go there for a drink and she doesn't feel like having an alcoholic drink? Is she not allowed to sit there with me? It shouldn't matter if you are an adult or a child or if you are drinking alcohol or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted June 11 #50 Share Posted June 11 On 6/8/2024 at 9:37 PM, Sizzlechest said: It's literally called the "Rising Tide Bar." The whole thing is a bar. And for the record: Age Restriction 21+ on sailings from North America, 18+ on sailings from South America, Europe, Asia, Australia and New Zealand. Obviously, it's not enforced. Schooner is also a bar just like many others. Kids can enter bars, just not sit right where drinks are served. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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