'Gastroenteritis' now on Regatta

[marylizcat]

We are due to board Regatta on Sunday in Buenos Aires and have just received an email announcing that boarding will be delayed to enable them to deep clean the ship due to an outbreak of gastroenteritis on the present voyage.

 

There seems to be a lot of it about!!

[LHT28]

OH NO

Hope they can get rid of the virus quickly

[RJB]

We are due to board Regatta on Sunday in Buenos Aires and have just received an email announcing that boarding will be delayed to enable them to deep clean the ship due to an outbreak of gastroenteritis on the present voyage.

 

There seems to be a lot of it about!!

You have got to be kidding. Too crazy to think that 3 Oceania ships have problems at the same time. By what is the difference between this and Noro?

[marylizcat]

I think they always seem to refer to it as gastro-enteritis when they announce it as a problem on a ship.

[Mura]

Perhaps Noro is a more severe form of gastro-enteritis. I think I had a touch of that on Marina last spring BEFORE any announcements of a wide-spread problem were made. I was sick one morning; a dose of an OTC anti-diarrheal solved the problem. I was fine by dinner but I did take the precaution of confining myself to my room while I was feeling ill. I don't think Noro would have been dealt with that quickly!

 

I think that may have been the case with my husband as well -- he had reported to the medical center so they asked for a stool sample and released him from quarantine in less than 24 hours.

 

But it's very upsetting to hear that it is now on Regatta!

 

Mura

Edited February 25, 2016 by Mura

[GeezerCouple]

You have got to be kidding. Too crazy to think that 3 Oceania ships have problems at the same time. By what is the difference between this and Noro?

 

Briefly, and in non-specialist terms, gastro-enteritis could involve any causative agent, something irritating the gastro-intestinal system.

 

"Norovirus" is one specific causative agent (a specific virus). It's particularly contagious and isn't killed by some regular sanitizing agents, such as alcohol-based solutions.

 

Apparently there is a quick test for noro itself, which is why they can rule in or rule out noro as the causative agent.

(I do not know how accurate the test is, it terms of false negatives or false positives.)

[janecambridge]

Gastroenteritis is caused by many things and Noro virus is one.so I assume when they announce Noro virus on board,then they have done tests to prove it is that virus that has caused the problems. when they say gastroenteritis,I assume they either know what has caused the outbreak or Noro virus has not yet been diagnosed.

Noro virus is generally a winter bug and can also be found in contaminated food and in contaminated water as well as on surfaces..

[PirateShark]

I'll be watching this development on Regatta with interest but not fear :D. I need a vacation!

[RJB]

Gastroenteritis is caused by many things and Noro virus is one.so I assume when they announce Noro virus on board,then they have done tests to prove it is that virus that has caused the problems. when they say gastroenteritis,I assume they either know what has caused the outbreak or Noro virus has not yet been diagnosed.

Noro virus is generally a winter bug and can also be found in contaminated food and in contaminated water as well as on surfaces..

Above my pay grade. Just get rid of it.

[Iamthesea]

You have got to be kidding. Too crazy to think that 3 Oceania ships have problems at the same time. By what is the difference between this and Noro?

 

I think they always seem to refer to it as gastro-enteritis when they announce it as a problem on a ship.

 

I may be wrong, but on our 2/12 cruise, the ship announcements always called it gastro-enteritis and never said Norovirus. It was such a whirlwind week that I cannot be positive. :eek:

[RJB]

I may be wrong, but on our 2/12 cruise, the ship announcements always called it gastro-enteritis and never said Norovirus. It was such a whirlwind week that I cannot be positive. :eek:

Funny, but I can't remember either. :confused::confused::confused:

[Tansy Mews]

Funny, but I can't remember either. :confused::confused::confused:

 

According to the CDC website, there was norovirus on Oceania on these dates in the past few years:

 

Riviera:

November 18 – December 2, 2015

February 12-22, 2016

November 15 - 29, 2012

 

Marina:

Voyage Dates: April 21 - May 7, 2015

 

And Enterotoxigenic E. coli (ETEC) on Marina

02/26 - 03/15 (2011)

 

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm

[CintiPam]

I may be wrong, but on our 2/12 cruise, the ship announcements always called it gastro-enteritis and never said Norovirus. It was such a whirlwind week that I cannot be positive. :eek:

 

You are correct! Never was the word spoken orally. In fact, neither the letter from Captain Manzi dated February 12, waiting on our desk when we boarded, nor the undated letter from General Manager Edwin Brunink, regarding the curtailment of our cruise, mention Norovirus, just gastroenteritis.

 

However, the Oceania Cruises form (revised 9/01/2015) entitled "Important Information about Your Health" which accompanied Captain Manzi's letter, states in bold in its first line: "During our Past Voyage we have had a heightened number of Norovirus cases." It then proceeds to describe the symptoms, discuss hand washing, etc.

[wripro]

Interesting that the one cruise line which doesn't let passengers serve themselves at the buffets for hygiene's sake is the line with the most incidences of Norovirus!

[PaulMCO]

Interesting that the one cruise line which doesn't let passengers serve themselves at the buffets for hygiene's sake is the line with the most incidences of Norovirus!

 

Where did you get your BOGUS statistics... .

 

I do not consider 4 CDC reportable cruises in the last 5 years a large number.

Princess has more in the last year - (in fact over the last 5 years -- over 18) than Oceania.

 

http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/vsp/surv/gilist.htm#2015

Edited February 28, 2016 by PaulMCO

[Classiccruiser777]

Please wash your hands, with soap and water, frequently. I can't remember how many times I have seen people use the loo without washing up after.

[LHT28]

hopefully someone getting off the cruise will post when they get back

 

A friend went on a land trip to MP when she returned home from Lima a week or so ago she was very sick

I am wondering since the ship started in Lima perhaps people went to MP & picked up a bug there

 

I am just hoping it gets under control quickly

[hypercafe]

Interesting that the one cruise line which doesn't let passengers serve themselves at the buffets for hygiene's sake is the line with the most incidences of Norovirus!

 

I think that is true however I find it funny that for years I have read here that thinks are far superior on Oceania because the passangers are better educated, very well traveled, and very mature. Now I read how they refuse to use hand sanitizer, do not wash after useing the rest room, will not follow direction from the medical department to stay in their cabin and will not follow directions on disembarction. Sounds like they are just the average mix of people after all!

 

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[Classiccruiser777]

Sounds like they are just the average mix of people after all!

Unfortunately people are people, regardless of education or income.

[Paulchili]

Interesting that the one cruise line which doesn't let passengers serve themselves at the buffets for hygiene's sake is the line with the most incidences of Norovirus!

 

To be more precise - in the period quoted by Tansy (2011 - present), HAL & RCI appear 9 times each, Princess 19 and Celebrity 11 times.

To be fair, those cruise lines have more ships than Oceania.

OTOH, cruise lines like Seabourn, Silversea, Regent and Crystal (among others) are conspicuously absent from that list during that period (although most of them made the list at some point).

Of course, that is not the only criteria by which one usually selects a cruise line but it is an interesting observation (?trend).

Also, as Oceania does not appear on that list prior to 2011, the 5 incidents quoted there represent a minuscule percentage of O cruises from 2004 till present.

It is always important to keep things in perspective :)

[Paulchili]

I can't remember how many times I have seen people use the loo without washing up after.

 

Do you usually comment to them about this (on a cruise ship)?

[tropicalkerry2002]

that I will speak up when I see non-washing of hands. Hope I don't lose my nerve, when it is they that should be mortified!

[hawky]

I leave in May and fully intend to ask my doctor what, if anything, I need to take with me to be prepared for a possible infection. I always carry my prescriptions for diverticulitis, so not much difference in preparedness.

 

I intend to enjoy myself and stop fretting about what may be.;)

[LHT28]

Any updates on the bug status on Regatta???

 

It seems a lot of ships departing Lima seem to get G.I. problems

Hoping all is well now

 

Lyn

[wripro]

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek but obviously offensive to some. It's not totally without merit. And I only consider luxury lines at all when comparing so the large ships don't count imo.