Name tags on mailboxes

[Steelers0854]

Your absolutely correct, however the world has drastically changed in the last 10-20yrs in the respect of criminal behavior. So lets just say I am the "creepy middle age guy". All I would have to do is go up and down the hallways and see who is cruising solo. Then hang out in hallways to see the "solo" cruiser(s) and find an easy target. I know your on a cruise ship and you feel safe but there are a lot of bad people everywhere in this world today.

 

 

 

I totally understand where you are coming from, but anything is possible, can you cite any reports where this has taken place to make it a concern? Just because something can be used for nefarious reasons doesn't mean it should be changed or eliminated.

[AdoraBelle]

Your absolutely correct, however the world has drastically changed in the last 10-20yrs in the respect of criminal behavior. So lets just say I am the "creepy middle age guy". All I would have to do is go up and down the hallways and see who is cruising solo. Then hang out in hallways to see the "solo" cruiser(s) and find an easy target. I know your on a cruise ship and you feel safe but there are a lot of bad people everywhere in this world today.

 

 

Crime statistics have actually been decreasing for decades; we're just more aware of crime due to 24-hour news and then the Internet.

[Steelers0854]

Crime statistics have actually been decreasing for decades; we're just more aware of crime due to 24-hour news and then the Internet.

 

 

 

Unfortunately we are to blame for this. News networks run these stories because we click or watch them, and that means more revenue for them. While I think it can be argued that crime has increased or decreased, the media certainly makes it seem like we should all constantly fear for our lives due to their coverage of single instances of criminal acts.

[greenie082756]

The one thing I do like about the your name on the mailbox is that it is removable if you so choose. :)

 

We leave ours on but I do take it the night before when we pack.

 

The first time we sailed on Princess I thought that I didn't need for others to see our name. As time went on, I do not remember ever purposely looking @ names as I am walking down the hall.

[KruzPrincess]

I cruise solo a lot and never worry about my name being outside on the mailbox. As others have said, just remove it if you don't like it. As for loyalty status equating to wealth...I think it would be easier to judge that by the type of cabin you booked. LOL. I would be more worried about letting children out to run the halls by themselves at all hours than by having a name on a mailbox. JMO.

 

Agreed. More reason to decorate your door!

[mamkmm2]

Your absolutely correct, however the world has drastically changed in the last 10-20yrs in the respect of criminal behavior. So lets just say I am the "creepy middle age guy". All I would have to do is go up and down the hallways and see who is cruising solo. Then hang out in hallways to see the "solo" cruiser(s) and find an easy target. I know your on a cruise ship and you feel safe but there are a lot of bad people everywhere in this world today.

 

As someone that has run a business for over 20 years I can tell you it isn't just about the "creepy middle age guy" that you need to guard against. More than once I've read stories here on CC about people that they had problems with. One of the most recent was on a thread on how Princess handled a problem with a young man who wouldn't take "no" for an answer. He was charming, good-looking, on the cruise with his parents, etc. We've all read the stories of abuse of female passengers and children that have taken place on ships ... by other passengers as well as crew. There are stories where people find out after a cruise that their personal information was stolen.

 

Why, in this day and age, are people so willing to make it easy on the bad guys? Statistics regarding going "down" does not equate with impact going down. It also doesn't mean that all venue crime has dropped across the board.

 

As a matter of fact the reality is that most crimes that occur on cruise ships are not required to be publicly reported. According to the 2010 Cruise Vessel Security and Safety Act only those cruise ship crimes reported to and closed by the FBI have to be disclosed to the public. Since not all cruise ship crimes are reported to the FBI and the FBI keeps many investigations open the vast majority of criminal incidents that occur on board ships are never reported.

 

Here are some interesting articles on cruise line crime:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/do-cruise-lines-have-a-crime-problem-2014-02-21

http://www.internationalcruisevictims.org/

https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/crimes-against-americans-on-cruise-ships

[Mom33]

I think that indicates you are a little hung up on yourself. Being Platinum or Elite only indicates you have cruised a lot with the cruise line, not your riches. If you really do have a lot, you should buy your own cruise line, or at least cruise on something more upscale than Princess.

 

I am not hung up on myself. :mad:

 

The fact that Platinum and Elite loyalty level indicates you sail a lot means you have the funds to do so. To a thief, thats valuable information.

 

If you think robberies don't happen on cruise ships so be it. :rolleyes:

 

As for your attitude problem, you seem to be the one hung up on status.

[Pushka]

I'm not sure I see how a name on a door is a significant safety issue? Cruise lines have been doing it or a variation of it forever and I have never read a single report of any criminal incident being linked to an individual using that information to commit a crime. I can understand if you're not comfortable with it, but I do not think it classifies as a serious safety issue.

 

 

Like I said, have travelled on several different cruise lines and Princess is the only one that does this.

 

On a particular cruise I was traveling solo and was very keen to ensure that no one knew my cabin number. From one other passenger in particular.

 

On this particular cruise I saw one man deliberately heave into a man who was disabled (amputated leg) and who fell heavily to the ground. I ran over to him to help him up and yelled out to the offender who was with his wife, to get him to stop. He kept on walking. As did she. I got the man into a seat then reported it to the first crew member I saw then down to guest services. There are some awful people who cruise and on this cruise at some times found it an issue.

Edited May 8, 2016 by Pushka

[Steelers0854]

As someone that has run a business for over 20 years I can tell you it isn't just about the "creepy middle age guy" that you need to guard against. More than once I've read stories here on CC about people that they had problems with. One of the most recent was on a thread on how Princess handled a problem with a young man who wouldn't take "no" for an answer. He was charming, good-looking, on the cruise with his parents, etc. We've all read the stories of abuse of female passengers and children that have taken place on ships ... by other passengers as well as crew. There are stories where people find out after a cruise that their personal information was stolen.

 

 

 

Why, in this day and age, are people so willing to make it easy on the bad guys? Statistics regarding going "down" does not equate with impact going down. It also doesn't mean that all venue crime has dropped across the board.

 

 

 

As a matter of fact the reality is that most crimes that occur on cruise ships are not required to be publicly reported. According to the 2010 Cruise Vessel Security and Safety Act only those cruise ship crimes reported to and closed by the FBI have to be disclosed to the public. Since not all cruise ship crimes are reported to the FBI and the FBI keeps many investigations open the vast majority of criminal incidents that occur on board ships are never reported.

 

 

 

Here are some interesting articles on cruise line crime:

 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/do-cruise-lines-have-a-crime-problem-2014-02-21

 

http://www.internationalcruisevictims.org/

 

https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/crimes-against-americans-on-cruise-ships

 

 

 

No one is saying crime doesn't occur on cruise ships. We all know it's out there and yes is under reported in general, although all major criminal acts are reported. The conversation surrounds specifically having your name outside your door, and in that regard there is likely very little chance of it being used in a criminal act or making you a target. You should be more concerned about handing your credit card to your server at a restaurant as it's very easy to skim the card and get more information than just your name.

[mamkmm2]

No one is saying crime doesn't occur on cruise ships. We all know it's out there and yes is under reported in general, although all major criminal acts are reported. The conversation surrounds specifically having your name outside your door, and in that regard there is likely very little chance of it being used in a criminal act or making you a target. You should be more concerned about handing your credit card to your server at a restaurant as it's very easy to skim the card and get more information than just your name.

 

I already take care of the credit card issue with items like Lifelock, etc. That said, I'm still not going to make it easy on someone to add two and two together. If you wouldn't do it in a regular hotel or on your apartment door (or home door), then you shouldn't be doing it on a cruise ship which is basically just a microcosm of the same thing.

[Steelers0854]

I already take care of the credit card issue with items like Lifelock, etc. That said, I'm still not going to make it easy on someone to add two and two together. If you wouldn't do it in a regular hotel or on your apartment door (or home door), then you shouldn't be doing it on a cruise ship which is basically just a microcosm of the same thing.

 

 

 

Your comparing apples to oranges. On a cruise ship you have to have a birth certificate and ID or passport to board, only board once and are generally not getting off until the trip is over plus when you get off your entry into the Country is recorded. Compare that to a hotel which rarely verifies ID beyond a casual glance, and allows anyone at any time to book a room at generally a much lower cost than it would to book a cruise. Added to that is the fact that anyone at any time can roam the halls of a hotel, not so on a cruise ship. Also take into consideration passengers are security screened before entry onboard, this never happens in a hotel.

 

Again, I'm not saying there isn't crime onboard, but reiterate the fact that your name on the door of your cabin is very low risk for you, and is something you can choose to remove.

[cherrybear]

Well here's another vote for the door name tags. I like them and I keep them. Thank goodness my personal paranoia doesn't extend to my time on the ships. This isn't to say I don't take normal care while on the ship I just don't worry so much about so little. I'm much more paranoid on shore, probably more than I need to be but...

[tioalmsp]

Well here's another vote for the door name tags. I like them and I keep them. Thank goodness my personal paranoia doesn't extend to my time on the ships. This isn't to say I don't take normal care while on the ship I just don't worry so much about so little. I'm much more paranoid on shore, probably more than I need to be but...

 

Same with us. I keep ours.

[AdoraBelle]

Unfortunately we are to blame for this. News networks run these stories because we click or watch them, and that means more revenue for them. While I think it can be argued that crime has increased or decreased, the media certainly makes it seem like we should all constantly fear for our lives due to their coverage of single instances of criminal acts.

 

 

I agree, for the most part, except whether it is debatable that crime (at least in the US) has decreased since the 1990s. (Too many statistics there.)

 

But I'm from the newspaper biz. "If it bleeds it leads." Human nature is a funny thing.

 

Generally I try to be smart while not living in fear.

[brianlojeck]

I agree, for the most part, except whether it is debatable that crime (at least in the US) has decreased since the 1990s. (Too many statistics there.)

it's not. Crime is down to levels not seen in 40 years. The fact that people are terrified isn't relevant.

[easyboy]

The room stewards have a list of everyone's name, age and country of origin. The names on the cabin are not for them.

Though it may not be for them, I think they also find it useful for other purposes.

[mamkmm2]

it's not. Crime is down to levels not seen in 40 years. The fact that people are terrified isn't relevant.

 

Some areas have lower crime, in some areas crime have skyrocketed. Generalizations are just that ... not necessarily applicable in all areas.

 

Additionally, you really can't use land-based statistics for cruises because cruises are not required to report all crimes that occur on the ships. There was some change to this based on a 2010 law that came to be in the US, but again only for those crimes that would be reportable to the FBI that affect some US citizens. Lot of gaps in reporting that make any statistics regarding crimes that occur on cruise ships highly suspect.

 

My question for those that are blowing this off, what is your logical rationale for feeling that you can let your guard down and do things on a cruise ship that you wouldn't do in a land-based hotel or city? I'm not being snarky, I'm honestly interested in the answers.

[framer]

Princess can't fool me it all about $$$$ one more person that they don't need to get those lags printed and delivered.

 

Keep the tags, I like them.

 

 

framer

[Luv my furbaby]

Will be sailing on Princess for the first time in many many years - don't remember name tags back in the 90's.

I think it would be good to gave the steward put the tag in your room and it you choose you can then display it on your door. As I usually travel solo, I would choose to not display the tag.

Definitely do NOT want my room number on my card - can't tell you how many cards I've lost. Don't want to go to my cabin and find an unexpected visitor!!

[BRANDEE]

Several people have mentioned that they don't have the cabin number on their cruise cards any more so it's very helpful to have their name(s) on the mailbox.

 

On our March Emerald cruise, our cards did have the cabin number on them. It was a tremendous help to double check that number against the door number before inserting the card (as well as double checking whether we were port or starboard at the beginning of the cruise).

 

Yes, the thought of losing the card was scary and that's why I made sure I always had it with me.

 

I was on the Emerald in Jan and our cabin numbers were not on our cruise card..as usual. Going back on the Emerald in a month, having my cabin number on the card is more of a security risk than having my name on the door. I have seen cards left at the bars and even more in the casino slots.

I guess I will scratch it off.

[jennybenny]

It doesn't bother me to have our names. We generally take it off when we arrive to our room and I find it interesting to wander the halls and see how many elites, platinum, gold and blues there are on board.

 

In the end, the inclusion or exclusion of this does not affect me at all.

 

What I don't want to see is the quality of the food go down :)

[apeller]

DH has had one stuck on the door to the master bedroom in our house for as long as I can remember. He also starts placing Princess chocolates on my pillow and a room service menu on our bed about a week before we leave for a cruise. He's crazy, but he makes life fun. :D

 

That's so funny. We have one with my parents name hanging on the wall outside our guest bedroom so they will feel more at home when they come to visit. Last time we added the chocolates to the pillow.

[Pushka]

Well here's another vote for the door name tags. I like them and I keep them. Thank goodness my personal paranoia doesn't extend to my time on the ships. This isn't to say I don't take normal care while on the ship I just don't worry so much about so little. I'm much more paranoid on shore, probably more than I need to be but...

 

 

I dont consider my thoughts as being personal paranoia. Thats rather nasty.

 

 

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[jdellachiesa]

Personally, I like 'em and consider them a fun part of cruising. We take our most recent card and put it on our master bedroom door at home. I know, I know... It's a little corny, but we enjoy it ;) It helps us look forward to being onboard again!

[GUT2407]

Next they'll remove numbers from the cabins:confused::eek: