DeeT Posted May 28, 2016 #1 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Is a passport and driver's licence enough for our Bermuda cruise out of NY or do we need birth certificates too???? I copied this from the NCL website. For closed-loop sailings (cruises that depart from and return to the same U.S. port), you may sail with a valid passport, proof of citizenship and a valid government-issued photo I.D. (driver’s license with a photo), or any other valid WHTI compliant document. Proof of Citizenship examples include: State certified U.S. birth certificate Original certificate of U.S. naturalization Original certificate of U.S. citizenship U.S. Consular report of your birth abroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted May 28, 2016 #2 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Passport good enough. You want a DL so that you don't have to carry your passport off the ship (ever) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeT Posted May 28, 2016 Author #3 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Thank you! Sorry if a dumb question but why don't I want to take my passport with me off the ship while I'm in Bermuda? NOT THAT I EVER WOULD (!!!) but what if I was a pier runner who missed the boat and needed to fly home or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esm54687 Posted May 28, 2016 #4 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Thank you! Sorry if a dumb question but why don't I want to take my passport with me off the ship while I'm in Bermuda? NOT THAT I EVER WOULD (!!!) but what if I was a pier runner who missed the boat and needed to fly home or something? That's the only reason our passports are with us when we get off the ship in a foreign port..... we use our Ship ID and Driver's License to reboard ship but like you said..... **** happens and you may miss the boat Edited May 28, 2016 by esm54687 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diane123boys Posted May 28, 2016 #5 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Thank you! Sorry if a dumb question but why don't I want to take my passport with me off the ship while I'm in Bermuda? NOT THAT I EVER WOULD (!!!) but what if I was a pier runner who missed the boat and needed to fly home or something? Correct me if I am wrong ( some of the more experienced cruisers here) If you arent checked into the ship and numerous pagings for you and waiting for a while - then from what I gather is they get your stuff for you ( I assume they have an override code for the safe ) but this may be just boating myth :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted May 28, 2016 #6 Share Posted May 28, 2016 ll you need is the passport, anything else is unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMLady Posted May 28, 2016 #7 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Correct me if I am wrong ( some of the more experienced cruisers here) If you arent checked into the ship and numerous pagings for you and waiting for a while - then from what I gather is they get your stuff for you ( I assume they have an override code for the safe ) but this may be just boating myth :) Not a myth. If passport, cash, credit card etc were in safe, they're given to port agent. That's why it's a good idea to take port agent info (from newsletter) with you to port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casofilia Posted May 28, 2016 #8 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Passport good enough. You want a DL so that you don't have to carry your passport off the ship (ever)[/QUOTE] While this may be true for "closed-loop" cruises I hope you never get into trouble in a non-USA port and have to arrange to fly home. Your driver's licence is not much use in a foreign country. Can you imagine trying to get on a plane in Sharm-el-Sheik, for example,with your driver's licence? Or even getting into a hotel there? Funny thing is that the only place I have had to have my passport to get back into the dock area and then on to the ship was in Hawai'i; my ship card was not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esm54687 Posted May 28, 2016 #9 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Passport good enough. You want a DL so that you don't have to carry your passport off the ship (ever)[/QUOTE] While this may be true for "closed-loop" cruises I hope you never get into trouble in a non-USA port and have to arrange to fly home. Your driver's licence is not much use in a foreign country. Can you imagine trying to get on a plane in Sharm-el-Sheik, for example,with your driver's licence? Or even getting into a hotel there? Funny thing is that the only place I have had to have my passport to get back into the dock area and then on to the ship was in Hawai'i; my ship card was not enough. Even on a "closed loop cruise"...... passport is required to fly home from the port if you miss ship What cruise line \ itinerary were you on that Hawaii was mandatory to have a passport?? I've flown from LA to Hawaii without the need of a passport so why would a passport be required to board the ship? Was it a reposition from Australia to Hawaii to LA? That I could understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casofilia Posted May 28, 2016 #10 Share Posted May 28, 2016 What cruise line \ itinerary were you on that Hawaii was mandatory to have a passport?? I've flown from LA to Hawaii without the need of a passport so why would a passport be required to board the ship? Was it a reposition from Australia to Hawaii to LA? That I could understand. I was on the PoA and I had gone into town, on my own, to go to a bank to get some coins. When I went back to the ship I had to pass through the dock gates and it was there I first needed my passport. Then when I got back to the actual wharf they wanted to see my passport again. Reading my notes, nowhere near as comprehensive as later ones as this was our first NCL cruise, we had to show passports to get through the dock gates when we arrived back on the bus from an NCL arranged tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.Oceanlover Posted May 28, 2016 #11 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I was on the PoA and I had gone into town, on my own, to go to a bank to get some coins. When I went back to the ship I had to pass through the dock gates and it was there I first needed my passport. Then when I got back to the actual wharf they wanted to see my passport again. Reading my notes, nowhere near as comprehensive as later ones as this was our first NCL cruise, we had to show passports to get through the dock gates when we arrived back on the bus from an NCL arranged tour. and what would have happened had you not had a passport since none is required for that cruise since it doesn't even leave the U.S.? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casofilia Posted May 28, 2016 #12 Share Posted May 28, 2016 and what would have happened had you not had a passport since none is required for that cruise since it doesn't even leave the U.S.? Bill I have no idea as I always travel with a passport. Remember that I am not an American citizen but I don't know how the dock officials knew that!! On the bus the request was for photo ID, non-Americans were expected to show a passport; foreign driver's licences were not good enough. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted May 28, 2016 #13 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Is a passport and driver's licence enough for our Bermuda cruise out of NY or do we need birth certificates too???? I copied ... Minimum requirement is a passport. Or, a driver's license together with a US birth certificate. Bermuda has pre-boarding US CBP clearance at the international airport. So there really isn't a need for a passport to fly. Although one would have to allow some extra time for additional scrutiny. https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/western-hemisphere-travel-initiative# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.Oceanlover Posted May 28, 2016 #14 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I have no idea as I always travel with a passport. Remember that I am not an American citizen but I don't know how the dock officials knew that!! On the bus the request was for photo ID, non-Americans were expected to show a passport; foreign driver's licences were not good enough. Mike OK thanks for taking the time to reply Mike Mike.:) Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted May 28, 2016 #15 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I have no idea as I always travel with a passport. Remember that I am not an American citizen but I don't know how the dock officials knew that!! On the bus the request was for photo ID, non-Americans were expected to show a passport; foreign driver's licences were not good enough. Mike The reason is stated clearly in your second paragraph- non-US citizens were asked to show their passports. Non-US citizens are required to carry their documentation at all times and be able to produce it (at least that is what my Border Patrol friends tell me and I'm not about to doubt them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esm54687 Posted May 28, 2016 #16 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I have no idea as I always travel with a passport. Remember that I am not an American citizen but I don't know how the dock officials knew that!! On the bus the request was for photo ID, non-Americans were expected to show a passport; foreign driver's licences were not good enough. Mike Mike.... 1) never mentioned you were a non-American 2) so how could we "remember" and 3) you stated yourself that "non-Americans were expected to show a passport" means that you probably produced the passport out of habit when they asked for identification.... Now it makes perfect sense why you needed a passport in Hawaii.... Thank you for filling in the gaps with the information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esm54687 Posted May 28, 2016 #17 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Minimum requirement is a passport. Or, a driver's license together with a US birth certificate. Bermuda has pre-boarding US CBP clearance at the international airport. So there really isn't a need for a passport to fly. Although one would have to allow some extra time for additional scrutiny. https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/western-hemisphere-travel-initiative# Hi, I read and re-read this link and I cannot see anything that says a passport is NOT required for AIR travel under the WHTI.... it only details Land & Sea that will not require a passport. Technically a US Citizen does not require a passport to enter the US whether it is land, air, or sea.... whether it's from Europe, Asia, Mars, etc..... it will take substantial time, money and effort to verify your identification but you'll eventually get in. Can you help clarify where this is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted May 28, 2016 #18 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Minimum requirement is a passport. Or, a driver's license together with a US birth certificate. Bermuda has pre-boarding US CBP clearance at the international airport. So there really isn't a need for a passport to fly. Although one would have to allow some extra time for additional scrutiny. https://www.cbp.gov/travel/us-citizens/western-hemisphere-travel-initiative# You still need a passport to fly from Bermuda to the US. The fact that you're clearing US immigration and customs in Bermuda before boarding the airplane rather than in the US after landing doesn't eliminate the passport requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mypleasure Posted May 28, 2016 #19 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Correct me if I am wrong ( some of the more experienced cruisers here) If you arent checked into the ship and numerous pagings for you and waiting for a while - then from what I gather is they get your stuff for you ( I assume they have an override code for the safe ) but this may be just boating myth :) Not a myth. I was on the Spirit and we seemed late leaving port. Two female names were being called repeatedly on the PA. I saw from my balcony a member of guest services come down the gangway and hand a manilla envelope to the port agent who then opened it and looked inside. He pulled 2 blue passports part of the way out and then dropped them back in. They shook hands, and once the lady was back on board they had just started to pull the gangway in when 2 young women came flying out of the port building. The gangway was returned, the port agent gave them the envelope and they came on board. In less than a couple of minutes the gangway was in, ropes were all off and the ship was on the move. It was close. They were stranded if they were about 2 minutes later returning. It is not a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare broberts Posted May 28, 2016 #20 Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) Hi, I read and re-read this link and I cannot see anything that says a passport is NOT required for AIR travel under the WHTI.... it only details Land & Sea that will not require a passport. Technically a US Citizen does not require a passport to enter the US whether it is land, air, or sea.... whether it's from Europe, Asia, Mars, etc..... it will take substantial time, money and effort to verify your identification but you'll eventually get in. Can you help clarify where this is? Very last paragraph: Travelers without WHTI-compliant documents are likely to be delayed at the border as CBP officers work to verify identity and citizenship. While passports are generally required, contrary to popular opinion airline and border officials are not heartless or complete idiots. It may take a bit of time, but someone in an emergency situation is not going to be unreasonably detained. With pre-boarding clearance in Bermuda, the border is in the departure airport. So one simply has to clear CBP there to legally fly with photo id. The flight is technically (US) domestic. Edited May 28, 2016 by broberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted May 28, 2016 #21 Share Posted May 28, 2016 If you have a passport, that's ALL you need. If you don't have a passport, you will need DL and BC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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