jonbgd Posted June 13, 2016 #26 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Yes you can wear jeans I wear jeans with a nice long sleeve shirt and dress shoes Just not on formal nights Ive seen people wearing jeans, on every RCCL cruise, Ive been on But we only started sailing Royal 6 years ago:confused: For men, they really don't weigh much more than dockers I bring a pair of those also Edited June 13, 2016 by jonbgd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC1957 Posted June 13, 2016 #27 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) That response from TC1957 seemed kind of odd, anyway. I don't know if the steak house he went to was really a "white tablecloth" type of place or not, as a Zagat rating has very little to do with the formality of the decor. But wearing so-called "nice shorts" with designer labels along with flip-flops was the part that seemed a little weird to me. But, as you say, to each their own. Zagat ratings have a lot more to do with identifying "fine dining" than white tablecloths. If Chuck-E-Cheese put white clothes over their tables every evening at 6:00 should we wear a jacket to eat there? If you search for the top steakhouses in DFW you don't have to go far down the list to find our preferred place in the ratings of any organization/group/service. You can believe whatever you want to believe...I really could not care less. My point was that what most people used to think of as "appropriate attire" for fine dining establishments has changed a great deal over the years. Besides...after having dined at more than one of the top restaurants in several major cities, including several with Michelin Stars, there is not a single venue on the three RCI ships we have sailed I feel are even remotely comparable. It matters little if there is a tablecloth when the food takes a long time to get there, is luke warm at best and you have to constantly ask for your water glass to be refilled. Edited June 13, 2016 by TC1957 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted June 13, 2016 #28 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) In addition to my tux, sometimes I bring my dinner jacket. :eek: I can't recall last time I brought jeans. I typically take two pair of khakis and wear them 5 nights. We would both would be way too hot in jeans on our local cruises down here. :eek: Alaska again this August we are bringing jeans, sweats, fleece tops....but not in the dining room for us. And is the only cruise we ever bring jeans along on, but once again just a matter of personal preference. Ditto on the khakis during our local cruises. Plus we get a lot of mileage out of black dress slacks...with mix and match tops. Edited June 13, 2016 by island lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted June 13, 2016 #29 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Zagat ratings have a lot more to do with identifying "fine dining" than white tablecloths. If Chuck-E-Cheese put white clothes over their tables every evening at 6:00 should we wear a jacket to eat there? If you search for the top steakhouses in DFW you don't have to go far down the list to find our preferred place in the ratings of any organization/group/service. You can believe whatever you want to believe...I really could not care less. My point was that what most people used to think of as "appropriate attire" for fine dining establishments has changed a great deal over the years. Besides...after having dined at more than one of the top restaurants in several major cities, including several with Michelin Stars, there is not a single venue on the three RCI ships we have sailed I feel are even remotely comparable. It matters little if there is a tablecloth when the food takes a long time to get there, is luke warm at best and you have to constantly ask for your water glass to be refilled. I like the white table clothes made of paper that you can draw on with crayons! Edited June 13, 2016 by island lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted June 13, 2016 #30 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Zagat ratings have a lot more to do with identifying "fine dining" than white tablecloths. If Chuck-E-Cheese put white clothes over their tables every evening at 6:00 should we wear a jacket to eat there? If you search for the top steakhouses in DFW you don't have to go far down the list to find our preferred place in the ratings of any organization/group/service. You can believe whatever you want to believe...I really could not care less. My point was that what most people used to think of as "appropriate attire" for fine dining establishments has changed a great deal over the years. Besides...after having dined at more than one of the top restaurants in several major cities, including several with Michelin Stars, there is not a single venue on the three RCI ships we have sailed I feel are even remotely comparable. It matters little if there is a tablecloth when the food takes a long time to get there, is luke warm at best and you have to constantly ask for your water glass to be refilled. First of all, Zagat ratings don't really have anything to do with "fine dining" as you suggested. You can find highly (or poorly) rated fine dining restaurants or highly (or poorly) rated casual diners. Highly rated and fine dining are quite different concepts. Secondly, my comment had nothing to do with believing you; it was only a comment that flip-flops with nice shorts seemed weird to me. I don't spend a lot of time checking out people's footwear, but I see flip-flops mostly at places like the beach or pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Caribbean International Posted June 13, 2016 #31 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hello. The Dining Room Dress Code is as follows: Smart Casual: Ladies: Skirt or pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a blouse. Gentlemen: Pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a collared shirt. Formal: Ladies: Cocktail dress or pantsuit. Gentlemen: Suit (black tie is optional). Note: Swimsuits, robes, bare feet, tank tops, baseball caps and pool wear are not allowed in the main restaurants or specialty restaurants. T-shirts, shorts and flip-flops are acceptable for lunch. The dress code above is applicable to children of all ages. We hope this info helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommaBear55 Posted June 13, 2016 #32 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I am glad to have the explanation from you, Royal Caribbean International. I have no problem with these standards, but there is a sad lack of enforcement by the RCI staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMikefromTexas Posted June 13, 2016 #33 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) In addition to my tux, sometimes I bring my dinner jacket. :eek: I can't recall last time I brought jeans. I typically take two pair of khakis and wear them 5 nights. I agree completely. A Suit, Tux or a Dinner Jacket makes a meal or evening special for me. It elevates the vacation experience for us both. But I do wear jeans in cooler weather environment to board ships. I.e. TransAtlantic boardings in late November in Barcelona or Rome, that rare cool day in Seattle in September! Never hurts to have them available even if only for the cold airports and planes. But I do find that two pairs of informal dress pants is usually a lighter weight and smaller bulk than some good 505's. A weight consideration for longer outings. So when packing I go for the Haggar Cool 18's for my standard evening attire. A golf or island shirt on Casual Nights. Edited June 13, 2016 by BigMikefromTexas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcruz Posted June 13, 2016 #34 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hello. The Dining Room Dress Code is as follows: Smart Casual: Ladies: Skirt or pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a blouse. Gentlemen: Pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a collared shirt. Formal: Ladies: Cocktail dress or pantsuit. Gentlemen: Suit (black tie is optional). Note: Swimsuits, robes, bare feet, tank tops, baseball caps and pool wear are not allowed in the main restaurants or specialty restaurants. T-shirts, shorts and flip-flops are acceptable for lunch. The dress code above is applicable to children of all ages. We hope this info helps. I am glad to have the explanation from you, Royal Caribbean International. I have no problem with these standards, but there is a sad lack of enforcement by the RCI staff. Agree, if you have a dress code why oh why do you not enforce it? Personally I don't care what the official word is if I chose to sail with your company I will follow it, but it is getting harder and harder when hardly anyone else does and NOBODY enforces it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 13, 2016 #35 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Hello. The Dining Room Dress Code is as follows: Smart Casual: Ladies: Skirt or pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a blouse. Gentlemen: Pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a collared shirt. Formal: Ladies: Cocktail dress or pantsuit. Gentlemen: Suit (black tie is optional). Note: Swimsuits, robes, bare feet, tank tops, baseball caps and pool wear are not allowed in the main restaurants or specialty restaurants. T-shirts, shorts and flip-flops are acceptable for lunch. The dress code above is applicable to children of all ages. We hope this info helps. Why no enforcement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyluvs2cruise Posted June 13, 2016 #36 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I am glad to have the explanation from you, Royal Caribbean International. I have no problem with these standards, but there is a sad lack of enforcement by the RCI staff. I agree but don't think Royal Caribbean International will come back and answer why it's not enforced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommaBear55 Posted June 13, 2016 #37 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I agree but don't think Royal Caribbean International will come back and answer why it's not enforced. Oh, I don't either but I just felt it needed to be said! The post at least proves they do read CC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking4info Posted June 13, 2016 #38 Share Posted June 13, 2016 I am sure you do...and I am sure a good number of people from a warm weather environment are acclimated to such attire. My statement was referring to "cruises". How often do people wear jeans on cruises? My guess is not many. :) I did not state no one wears them. I just never notice them on the cruises I have been on. :) Even my husband (who lives in jeans) doesn't wear them on a cruise. :) Sail from Galveston and you will no longer be able say you have "never seen" and "not many" Recently off Liberty and jeans were everywhere on that ship including the Solarium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langley Cruisers Posted June 14, 2016 #39 Share Posted June 14, 2016 OP, I see you are doing a 7 night Western Caribbean and I also agree that jeans on this itinerary would be too hot. They're also heavy, and luggage weight is at a premium these days. I would suggest a lighter fabric for pants, if the kids will go for that. BUT, as stated, jeans are acceptable in the dining room. Have fun. :) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mets07 Posted June 14, 2016 #40 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I am sure you do...and I am sure a good number of people from a warm weather environment are acclimated to such attire. My statement was referring to "cruises". How often do people wear jeans on cruises? My guess is not many. :) I did not state no one wears them. I just never notice them on the cruises I have been on. :) Even my husband (who lives in jeans) doesn't wear them on a cruise. :) I wear jeans almost every evening on a cruise. Nice blouse / shirt and jeans. Bottom line is I am usually freezing in AC in the evenings so does not matter where I am. :);) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted June 14, 2016 #41 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Why no enforcement Because it's a cruise ship, not a prison or military barracks, so they don't hire people to be enforcers. Like most things on a cruise ship, it's generally up to the passengers to either respect it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted June 14, 2016 #42 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Hello. The Dining Room Dress Code is as follows: Smart Casual: Ladies: Skirt or pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a blouse. Gentlemen: Pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a collared shirt. Formal: Ladies: Cocktail dress or pantsuit. Gentlemen: Suit (black tie is optional). Note: Swimsuits, robes, bare feet, tank tops, baseball caps and pool wear are not allowed in the main restaurants or specialty restaurants. T-shirts, shorts and flip-flops are acceptable for lunch. The dress code above is applicable to children of all ages. We hope this info helps. When are you blessing shorts at dinner time already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbluegal Posted June 14, 2016 Author #43 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Thank you all for your responses. This helps a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 14, 2016 #44 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Oh, I don't either but I just felt it needed to be said! The post at least proves they do read CC. I'm positive it's the robot bartender on Anthem that monitors this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MommaBear55 Posted June 14, 2016 #45 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I'm positive it's the robot bartender on Anthem that monitors this site :) I did find it surprising after no posts for months that the robot bartender posted on this thread as well as the one on C+A enhancements. Maybe the robot bartender commentator is the enhancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare island lady Posted June 14, 2016 #46 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) i'm positive it's the robot bartender on anthem that monitors this site lol!! But does he make a good Gin &T? :D Edited June 14, 2016 by island lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigque Posted June 14, 2016 #47 Share Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Below is what I wrote in my review of Adventure from last October taken from the Cruise Compass, I also wrote the same basically the same thing in my review of other cruises also: There was the “Suggested” clothing for each night in the daily Cruise Compass (Casual except for the two formal nights), but it was obvious that RCI is backing away from enforcing the suggested clothing on any given night in the MDR. I will not give my views as to what we think as that is not the purpose of my review. Casual was defined in the cruise compass as: “Sundresses or slacks and blouses for the ladies, sport shirts and trousers for the gentlemen”. Day 1 Casual (Whatever you wore aboard) Day 2 – Formal (Sunday) Day 3 – Casual / 70’s Attire Day 4 – Casual / Wear Something White (Sea Day) Day 5 – Casual / Caribbean Day 6 – Formal (Thursday) Day 7 – Casual (Sea Day) HOWEVER We saw it all in the MDR. We saw men wearing T-shirts, jeans, dress slacks, shorts, button down shirts, Sport Jackets, shoes, sandals, flip flops, sneakers, polo shirts and wearing baseball caps at the table. The only thing I didn’t see were wife beater shirts or swim wear. Women were wearing dresses, skirts, shorts, skorts, sun dresses, blouses, slacks, pants suits, jeans, dress shoes, sneakers and sandals. The women were however generally dressed much nicer than the men they were with. Kids (And there wasn’t very many on this cruise) wore pretty much the same style of clothing that you would see their parents in. Formal Nights: There are two formal nights on this cruise on Sunday & Thursday and the style of dress on these nights were men in Tux, suits, shirt and ties, dinner jacket with slacks shirt and tie or with an open shirt collar. Women wore gowns, evening dresses And Also On Formal Night…………………………………. We saw men wearing T-shirts, jeans, dress slacks, shorts, button down shirts, Sport Jackets, shoes, sandals, flip flops, sneakers, polo shirts and wearing baseball caps at the table. The only thing I didn’t see were wife beater shirts or swim wear. Women were wearing dresses, skirts, shorts, skorts, sun dresses, blouses, slacks, pants suits, jeans, dress shoes, sneakers and sandals. Edited June 14, 2016 by bigque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted June 14, 2016 #48 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Hello. The Dining Room Dress Code is as follows: Smart Casual: Ladies: Skirt or pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a blouse. Gentlemen: Pants (no holes, rips or tears) with a collared shirt. Formal: Ladies: Cocktail dress or pantsuit. Gentlemen: Suit (black tie is optional). Note: Swimsuits, robes, bare feet, tank tops, baseball caps and pool wear are not allowed in the main restaurants or specialty restaurants. T-shirts, shorts and flip-flops are acceptable for lunch. The dress code above is applicable to children of all ages. We hope this info helps. Thank you, if this if this is really the company "rules", then why isn't it enforced. We seen many men and women (mostly men) wearing ball caps at breakfast, lunch and DINNER in the main dining room. i'm not sure about the rule for shorts in the main dining room at dinner, but there were many men in shorts, especially on the LAST night. Thank you M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul65 Posted June 14, 2016 #49 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Thank you, if this if this is really the company "rules", then why isn't it enforced. We seen many men and women (mostly men) wearing ball caps at breakfast, lunch and DINNER in the main dining room. i'm not sure about the rule for shorts in the main dining room at dinner, but there were many men in shorts, especially on the LAST night. Thank you M I don't get why this is so complicated for people. They don't want to be enforcers. I'm sure they'd like for people to follow the guidelines, but there will always be those who refuse to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted June 14, 2016 #50 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I don't get why this is so complicated for people. They don't want to be enforcers. I'm sure they'd like for people to follow the guidelines, but there will always be those who refuse to do so. Not complicated. I wonder why they bother to list a dress code. Either have a dress code - or don't. Signage at the entrance of the dining room as well as a post in the Compass states no short/hats in the MDR at dinner, yet it is rarely if ever enforced. Until recently, Celebrity had a requirement of a jacket in the dining room, for formal night. No jacket, no entrance. If the passenger had no jacket, they gave him one to wear. The point is, the code was enforced. Folks are SO casual now, gym shorts and t shirts for dinner.. perhaps the "dress code" keeps it from getting worse. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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