WHO'S ON BOARD: Officers, Staff and Crew: PART 2

[LauraS]

On 11/18/2020 at 6:19 PM, WonderMan3 said:

 I have to assume that Cruise Critic turned over my personal information (email at the least) to NCL as I don't see how they could've connected me from my screenname here to my real identity and workplace. It was a little unnerving actually.

 

You assume incorrectly.  We would never do that; we respect your privacy and anonymity.  Period. 

[GottaKnowWhen]

On 11/18/2020 at 6:58 PM, gerelmx said:

 

So our personal Info it's not safe here

27 minutes ago, LauraS said:

 

You assume incorrectly.  We would never do that; we respect your privacy and anonymity.  Period. 

LauraS was quoting someone else, but same comment, I am sure that the same reply applies.

 

A year or two ago I was following a discussion on the Photo board, topic was what gear to take on a cruise to such-and-such a destination. One CC member listed out the shelves of gear he has and which items he travels with. Hmm, I thought. So he has these multiple thousands of dollars worth of gear, most of that is at home in an empty house when he travels, we know at least when he cruises, someone could go help themselves... I took about 10 minutes and I was able to find his real name, his address, which model BMW he drives, his profession (banking). I didn't bother going deeper. All of this was done with simple web searches based on the info he was sharing here. No hacking, no inside info from Cruise Critic, just simple carelessness on the part of the CC member.

I think the proper lesson is that publicly shared information is public and nobody should be surprised when it is known by other people.

 

Stan

 

 

[kathynorth]

2 hours ago, GottaKnowWhen said:

LauraS was quoting someone else, but same comment, I am sure that the same reply applies.

 

A year or two ago I was following a discussion on the Photo board, topic was what gear to take on a cruise to such-and-such a destination. One CC member listed out the shelves of gear he has and which items he travels with. Hmm, I thought. So he has these multiple thousands of dollars worth of gear, most of that is at home in an empty house when he travels, we know at least when he cruises, someone could go help themselves... I took about 10 minutes and I was able to find his real name, his address, which model BMW he drives, his profession (banking). I didn't bother going deeper. All of this was done with simple web searches based on the info he was sharing here. No hacking, no inside info from Cruise Critic, just simple carelessness on the part of the CC member.

I think the proper lesson is that publicly shared information is public and nobody should be surprised when it is known by other people.

 

Stan

 

 

 

I've had a similar experience. One day I noticed my then 12yo DD chatting on a discussion board and noticed several items I thought too personal to post on an open board. She made a flip comment like "Relax Mom". I then went on to backtrace and show DD that a person collecting all the tidbits she had posted would be able to find out her name, town where we lived, and ultimately our address. It was a frightening reality. Once on the internet, always on the internet!

Edited November 30, 2020 by kathynorth

[WonderMan3]

2 hours ago, GottaKnowWhen said:

. I took about 10 minutes and I was able to find his real name, his address, which model BMW he drives, his profession (banking). I didn't bother going deeper. 

 

 

 

 

Creepy...

[wwcruisers]

On 11/17/2020 at 2:31 PM, Arno. said:

I have just been notified by Celebrity cruises that I have contravened company policy by reaching out to staff to determine who is onboard.  After a number of staff complaints, according to the contact, my wife and I have been banned from sailing on any royal branded cruise ship.

Oh Arno -- I just heard about this! Like other posters here, I thought someone was kidding me. That's terrible news! However, it's not like any of us is doing much cruising right now, anyway. Hopefully, by the time cruises resume in earnest, the folks at X/RCCL will see the error of their ways -- and rescind that ridiculous order. In the meantime, if you want to drop in at our 'Who's Onboard' (Friends of CC) thread -- to chat (or vent) -- you are most certainly NOT banned from there! 😉 In fact, we would love to hear from you!

 

[LGW59]

31 minutes ago, wwcruisers said:

Oh Arno -- I just heard about this! Like other posters here, I thought someone was kidding me. That's terrible news! However, it's not like any of us is doing much cruising right now, anyway. Hopefully, by the time cruises resume in earnest, the folks at X/RCCL will see the error of their ways -- and rescind that ridiculous order. In the meantime, if you want to drop in at our 'Who's Onboard' (Friends of CC) thread -- to chat (or vent) -- you are most certainly NOT banned from there! 😉 In fact, we would love to hear from you!

 

There has to be more to this.  Can you share the back story?  I.E. all the texts that led to this situation??

[excitedofharpenden]

10 hours ago, LauraS said:

 

You assume incorrectly.  We would never do that; we respect your privacy and anonymity.  Period. 

This thread seems to have gone off on a tangent from its purpose. A lot of conspiracy theories. In my view the personal information that many post here or on roll calls or allow to be recorded on their spreadsheets is far more unsafe. 

 

Phil 

[mahdnc]

On 11/17/2020 at 4:31 PM, Arno. said:

I have just been notified by Celebrity cruises that I have contravened company policy by reaching out to staff to determine who is onboard.  After a number of staff complaints, according to the contact, my wife and I have been banned from sailing on any royal branded cruise ship.

 

Arno, I'm truly sorry to hear this. 

[lovetocruisee]

Has anybody heard anything else on this subject ??

[Luvcrusn]

Nothing to hear, no cruises sailing.

[lovetocruisee]

30 minutes ago, Luvcrusn said:

Nothing to hear, no cruises sailing.

I’m aware of that, just wondering if anybody had heard from Arno

[Luvcrusn]

21 minutes ago, lovetocruisee said:

I’m aware of that, just wondering if anybody had heard from Arno

Sorry, I misunderstood your question.  

[maggie.1008]

So sorry for Arno, I am shocked. I have not been on CC for a while as no real new news. 

I can`t believe X would treat such a loyal customer this way. A warning would have taken care of it. 

If I was Arno I don`t think I would feel welcome on another Celebrity cruise. 

[lovetocruisee]

3 hours ago, Luvcrusn said:

Sorry, I misunderstood your question.  

No problem, it’s been a loooong time

[Roger88]

21 minutes ago, maggie.1008 said:

So sorry for Arno, I am shocked. I have not been on CC for a while as no real new news. 

I can`t believe X would treat such a loyal customer this way. A warning would have taken care of it. 

If I was Arno I don`t think I would feel welcome on another Celebrity cruise. 

I havent heard any news either. It looks like we are still in a news lockdown. We dont really know the overall situation of the business right now. I wonder, how long more it will take untill we learn something positive from them 

[emmas gran]

Arno is not posting on the FB page he hosted either

Edited January 27, 2021 by emmas gran

[OZ.]

Celebrity’s loss. 

[SherriZ366]

On 11/17/2020 at 5:31 PM, Arno. said:

I have just been notified by Celebrity cruises that I have contravened company policy by reaching out to staff to determine who is onboard.  After a number of staff complaints, according to the contact, my wife and I have been banned from sailing on any royal branded cruise ship.

Were you and your wife being banned from sailing on Royal Caribbean Group ships the first communication you had from them on this issue?  Or did they reach out before they took this step?  Is the ban permanent?  

Thanks

[mahdnc]

I have never bumped a thread before, but I thought this one deserved it based on an inquiry someone just made on Cruise Critic.

 

There is certainly nothing wrong with posting a photo of the Spotlight page listing the officers from the Celebrity Today publication.

[cruisestitch]

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Celebrity is more cautious than ever about having this information distributed on this forum

[LGW59]

2 minutes ago, cruisestitch said:

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Celebrity is more cautious than ever about having this information distributed on this forum

And they should be, because it is wrong to do so.

[WonderMan3]

1 hour ago, cruisestitch said:

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Celebrity is more cautious than ever about having this information distributed on this forum

The list of officers in the daily is given to every passenger for them to do with as they wish including posting a copy of the daily here. All it says is who is presently onboard the ship on that particular cruise. It gives no information as to how long they will be on that ship. That's totally different than what the person in this thread who was supposedly banned from Celebrity was doing which was apparently contacting crew members via email or social media to find out their schedules and then sharing that here.

[phoenix_dream]

8 minutes ago, WonderMan3 said:

The list of officers in the daily is given to every passenger for them to do with as they wish including posting a copy of the daily here. All it says is who is presently onboard the ship on that particular cruise. It gives no information as to how long they will be on that ship. That's totally different than what the person in this thread who was supposedly banned from Celebrity was doing which was apparently contacting crew members via email or social media to find out their schedules and then sharing that here.

I don't think any of us know the real story behind the headlines.  It just never made sense to me that if someone was contacting crew members, who must have given him their contact information, asking questions that it would be enough to "cancel" him.  I met him once and he did not seem like a person who would be harassing people, which is the implication.  

 

Regardless, I would think sharing the crew information they give you each cruise would be allowed.  

[mahdnc]

4 hours ago, cruisestitch said:

I wouldn’t be so sure of that. Celebrity is more cautious than ever about having this information distributed on this forum

 

Based on what communication?

Edited March 3, 2022 by mahdnc

[mrsgoggins]

I would just add that I did 3 Celebrity cruises last year (Silhouette) and one in January (Apex) and on none of them were they distributing lists of officers/staff on board, or including information in Celebrity Today as they had done in the past.  I did ask about it, as in, 'do you have a paper copy of who is on board?', but was told they no longer did that.