Rigby the Dog Posted September 13, 2018 #201 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I believe I recall some ships compasses say “while playing “ but don’t save compasses. Sent from my iPhone using Forums I don't know that I believe that. That's certainly tough to enforce. If somebody is smoking while playing a slot machine, for example, and their friend is standing in back of them (within the designated smoking area) watching, you're saying that only the person hitting the button on the machine is allowed to smoke, according to Royal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby the Dog Posted September 13, 2018 #202 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I've seen signs to that effect in a couple of ship casinos, but that has not been embraced fleetwide. So if somebody is playing at a table within the smoking area and decides to take a break from gambling, then they must sit at the table if they want to smoke? That doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted September 13, 2018 #203 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I don't know that I believe that. That's certainly tough to enforce. If somebody is smoking while playing a slot machine, for example, and their friend is standing in back of them (within the designated smoking area) watching, you're saying that only the person hitting the button on the machine is allowed to smoke, according to Royal. I agree, it's tough. I think the policy is meant mostly to apply to the smokers who stand just inside doorway to the casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerif Posted September 13, 2018 #204 Share Posted September 13, 2018 So if somebody is playing at a table within the smoking area and decides to take a break from gambling, then they must sit at the table if they want to smoke? That doesn't make sense. Nope, they can walk outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunset Glow Posted September 13, 2018 #205 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Hopefully the rumor about non-smoking casinos on Jan 1 turns out of be true. This is a rumor? I haven't heard this yet but was away from the boards for awhile. I so hope this is true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby the Dog Posted September 13, 2018 #206 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Nope, they can walk outside. Hahaha - well I would bet that they don't and I would double down that the cruise line won't tell a smoker in a designated smoking area who is not gambling that they must walk outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggie cruises Posted September 13, 2018 #207 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Hopefully the rumor about non-smoking casinos on Jan 1 turns out of be true. Oh yes yes yes Non smoking casinos. Please I will start to gamble if you make them non smoking Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessa1dc Posted September 13, 2018 #208 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Ok...let me state, I'm a smoker. I hope the casino does not become non smoking. I also hope that they place an indoor room for cigar and cigarette smokers. Just my POV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 13, 2018 #209 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I don't know that I believe that. That's certainly tough to enforce. If somebody is smoking while playing a slot machine, for example, and their friend is standing in back of them (within the designated smoking area) watching, you're saying that only the person hitting the button on the machine is allowed to smoke, according to Royal. What about when the Casino is closed? Tons of smokers in there. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted September 13, 2018 #210 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Ok...let me state, I'm a smoker. I hope the casino does not become non smoking. I also hope that they place an indoor room for cigar and cigarette smokers. Just my POV. Why aren’t smokers considerate of non smokers and polluting them with second hand smoke. I believe the Casinos will be smoke free soon. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted September 13, 2018 #211 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Hopefully the rumor about non-smoking casinos on Jan 1 turns out of be true. Hopefully. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted September 13, 2018 #212 Share Posted September 13, 2018 The Casino is NOT a smoking lounge although people seem to use it as such. Sent from my iPhone using Forums The casino is designated as an allowable smoking venue. It was listed in a recent ( September 2018) Oasis Compass as the allowable indoor smoking area. You do not need to play, you can simply sit at any machine and smoke. There are signs that table chairs are for players only. The casino is open all day/night even if machines and tables are closed as it is the smoking lounge. Signage in the non smoking side is very poor, often non existent. I watched many passengers lighting up in the non smoking areas. Really a mess! M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby the Dog Posted September 13, 2018 #213 Share Posted September 13, 2018 What about when the Casino is closed? Tons of smokers in there. Sent from my iPhone using Forums If they are in the designated smoking area then they are not violating any policy. Perhaps you shouldn't walk through designated smoking areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby the Dog Posted September 13, 2018 #214 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Why aren’t smokers considerate of non smokers and polluting them with second hand smoke. I believe the Casinos will be smoke free soon. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Your problem is with the cruise line and not the smokers. The smokers are abiding by the rules - you appear to want to change those rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted September 13, 2018 #215 Share Posted September 13, 2018 If smoking is allowed in designated areas and people are smoking within those designated areas then they aren't in violation of anything. I didn't see any policy that says you must be gambling to smoke in the designated smoking areas of the Casino. Maybe those people are taking a break from gambling. Agreed - In most cases, NO need to gamble, to smoke in the casino. There are however signs that you must be playing to sit at a table. That is all. Anyone can sit at any machine and not play. There is even a sitting area (several sets of 4 chairs around a small cocktail table) near the casino bar on Oasis. Some sets of chairs are non smoking, other are a smoking area. In fact, the chairs/cocktail tables in the smoking area are near a TV that often shows a sporting event. Lots were hanging out there to watch a game. Other venues that show the game do not allow smoking. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted September 13, 2018 #216 Share Posted September 13, 2018 What about when the Casino is closed? Tons of smokers in there. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Smoking is allowed in the casino, at any time. Even if the machines and tables are closed, the casino, like most other venues, is an open area of the ship. Smoking is permitted. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted September 13, 2018 #217 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I believe the Empress casino is non smoking. At least it was when we sailed Empress last year. Haven't heard any rumors about fleet wide non smoking casinos. I would love it. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welly9 Posted September 13, 2018 #218 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Was on Vision and Jewel this past year and in both Casino's, and thru it and thru smoking areas on both ships, nothing to whine about! Was fine. Bottom line people like to complain and whine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love to cruise 2017 Posted September 13, 2018 #219 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Your problem is with the cruise line and not the smokers. The smokers are abiding by the rules - you appear to want to change those rules. I agree 100% ..we pay fare just the same as you....so why should be not be treated the same..already pushed into small areas, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggie cruises Posted September 13, 2018 #220 Share Posted September 13, 2018 I agree 100% ..we pay fare just the same as you....so why should be not be treated the same..already pushed into small areas, Well most casinos are not small closed off spaces They are now massive open air spaces that are in the middle level of an open air atrium so the smoke goes throughout the ship there is no denying that On the ncl getaway/breakaway etc several venues are filled with smoke because of this ....shops...le bistro..headliners etc I'm done with ncl and if my next cruise on the navigator is smoke filled I will go to celebrity and yes I know who owns celebrity Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammite Posted September 14, 2018 #221 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Your problem is with the cruise line and not the smokers. The smokers are abiding by the rules - you appear to want to change those rules. I absolutely want the rules changed. A completely non smoking fleet would be wonderful. I hope that the rumors are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted September 14, 2018 #222 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I absolutely want the rules changed. A completely non smoking fleet would be wonderful. I hope that the rumors are true. Dream on. Now smoke free casinos fleetwide is more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggie cruises Posted September 14, 2018 #223 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Dream on. Now smoke free casinos fleetwide is more realistic. I totally agree. The cruise ship operators are really upsetting the majority of their pax by still allowing any smoking at all in an indoor venue. I.e. The casino In this day and age where everything has to be PC it's insulting that the ships still allow indoor smoking even if just in the casino Shows how much they consider their pax health and well being especially since so few pax actually smoke It just appears that lots of pax smoke because they all pack into the casino to smoke not gamble Disclaimer: don't say go sail on X because I shouldn't have to do that unless I want to. What needs to happen is to eliminate smoking at all indoor venues on all ships on all lines. However I would actually concede to a additional smoking casino as long as it was in a remote corner of the ship and not near anyplace any pax would want to go to and that it was totally vented out to sea and not waifing back into a 3 story atrium near food venues Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammite Posted September 14, 2018 #224 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Dream on. Now smoke free casinos fleetwide is more realistic. I understand your point. But I would love to see it happen and will dream for the fleet to become smoke free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanF65 Posted September 14, 2018 #225 Share Posted September 14, 2018 When I as on the EOTS a few months ago every time I went into the casino I ended up leaving and not playing because of the smoke. The $25 or $50 blackjack tables were up by themselves an seemed nice but I don't bet $50-100 per hand Its not like I am going to go to the pit boss and tell him why I am not playing. I didn't have any issues with smoke onboard except in the casino. RC needs to measure "why customers don't visit the casino" so they know what the potential loss/gain is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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