MississippiMom Posted July 7, 2019 #1 Share Posted July 7, 2019 We are one of the many families who prefer driving to port to save on airfare. Our closest ports are New Orleans and Mobile, which, of course, means that it’s always a Conquest Class or a Fantasy Class ship. Since my very first cruise experience was on Fantasy, that class is my sentimental favorite. I also think the layout is MUCH easier to navigate for a newbie cruiser. Extended family is now thinking a cruise would be a great place for a large multi-generational family cruise. If you were to introduce a never-cruised-before family member to Carnival, which would you pick - Conquest Class or Fantasy Class? (It MUST be a 4 or 5 night itinerary to accommodate everyone’s schedules.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KmomChicago Posted July 7, 2019 #2 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Depends on their attitudes. I took my dad on his first cruise (at 75 years old) on Carnival Sensation - the price was excellent and we all appreciate a good value. He didn't mind the age of the ship - to him it was a completely new experience and his only wish was that he had a balcony cabin (they had an outside and he had little interest in ship activities, so if he cruises again he will get a balcony and plant himself there for most of the journey). However if your family are a bunch of 4-5 star type travelers, they will notice the age and dated quality of the ship. The rooms on Fantasy class are just a bit smaller, I believe, than Conquest class. If prices are the same or very close, I would opt for the newer ship from New Orleans. If you think they will all prefer balcony cabins, you really have to go that route as well. If you can get a significantly better price on Fantasy, don't think they need balconies, and you don't have the picky complaining types in your group, since they won't have anything "better" to compare, I would go that route. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted July 7, 2019 #3 Share Posted July 7, 2019 If they haven't cruised before, they will have nothing to compare. Fantasy will seem huge. And there was a time that it was. Just that ships are huge-er now. The only cabins that are larger on Conquest class are the OV, since they incorporate inside the space that would be a balcony in a balcony cabin. EM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evandbob Posted July 7, 2019 #4 Share Posted July 7, 2019 There are plenty of "rationales" for choosing the older ships, but I would steer clear of them. The "ratinonales" usually are code for lower priced. They may indeed be cheaper, and IMO, they are certainly cheap. Ugly tacky Farkus decor, garish MDRs. The posters say the newbies ignorance can be their bliss, they have nothing to compare such hideousness to......until they sail a newer Carnival ship or worse, another cruiseline. Then the newbies will look back and compare. They'll say something like the Fantasy was old like the first portable phone with those huge antenna like a WW II walkie talkie. Or they might compare the Fantasy to a CRT screen or radio tube TV. The Conquest class ships used to be my fav, I've sailed them about 20 times. I stopped sailing the smaller, older class ships a dozen years ago because they were old and out dated then - 'nuff said. Now that the Conquest class ships are showing their age and I've stepped up to liking the Dream class as my Carnival go to. JMO, YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebucks Posted July 7, 2019 #5 Share Posted July 7, 2019 The best part about the Fantasy classes is the Punchliner. At lot less crowded. Can walk in around start time and get a seat. Very rare across Carnival. Some other things are less crowded too. I prefer the Conquest class. My biggest gripe is I hate the Fantasy class Lido deck. No dive-in movies. Just a boring layout. I like having a few more options on the bigger ships too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger0613 Posted July 7, 2019 #6 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Fantasy I prefer that size. Embarkation takes alot less time since it has a lower guest capacity. I like the tacky decor. The Fantasy class has the Serenity area on deck 9 aft. It is actually serene. There is seating outside the Lido buffet windows. Old does not mean junk. I'm tired of people saying or implying that. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MississippiMom Posted July 7, 2019 Author #7 Share Posted July 7, 2019 1 hour ago, evandbob said: There are plenty of "rationales" for choosing the older ships, but I would steer clear of them. The "ratinonales" usually are code for lower priced. They may indeed be cheaper, and IMO, they are certainly cheap. Ugly tacky Farkus decor, garish MDRs. The posters say the newbies ignorance can be their bliss, they have nothing to compare such hideousness to......until they sail a newer Carnival ship or worse, another cruiseline. Then the newbies will look back and compare. They'll say something like the Fantasy was old like the first portable phone with those huge antenna like a WW II walkie talkie. Or they might compare the Fantasy to a CRT screen or radio tube TV. The Conquest class ships used to be my fav, I've sailed them about 20 times. I stopped sailing the smaller, older class ships a dozen years ago because they were old and out dated then - 'nuff said. Now that the Conquest class ships are showing their age and I've stepped up to liking the Dream class as my Carnival go to. JMO, YMMV. I understand what you are saying. Unfortunately, the ports of New Orleans and Mobile only have the Fantasy Class and Conquest Class ships for the shorter itineraries. I have already asked family if they would consider driving to a further port and I got a big fat NO. Your post does make me want to try a Dream Class ship, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted July 7, 2019 #8 Share Posted July 7, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Joebucks said: The best part about the Fantasy classes is the Punchliner. At lot less crowded. Can walk in around start time and get a seat. Very rare across Carnival. Some other things are less crowded too. I prefer the Conquest class. My biggest gripe is I hate the Fantasy class Lido deck. No dive-in movies. Just a boring layout. I like having a few more options on the bigger ships too. Have you seen what they’ve done to the comedy club on fantasy? Not the entire class...just fantasy. They cut it in half and took out the bar. It’s extremely small. I will not sail on fantasy based on that alone. Now if you’re talking Elation...great. But I have seen Elation go to standing room only. I can’t imagine what fantasy is like. Edited July 7, 2019 by Saint Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted July 7, 2019 #9 Share Posted July 7, 2019 My vote goes to the conquest class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carol1560 Posted July 7, 2019 #10 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Drive to NOLA instead of Mobile. Both ships usually go to the same places. NOLA is cheaper cruise wise and have larger ships. Fantasy is ok but old and rather dated. Carnival had that ship for sale and no bites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckimion Posted July 7, 2019 #11 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Forget the ships - New Orleans > Mobile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted July 7, 2019 #12 Share Posted July 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Buckimion said: Forget the ships - New Orleans > Mobile. Agreed....but also I think the ships are better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaded Lady Posted July 7, 2019 #13 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I'm sailing on my first Conquest class next year (Freedom Thanksgiving cruise) so I can't compare, but I really kinda like the smaller, older ships as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebucks Posted July 7, 2019 #14 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Saint Greg said: Have you seen what they’ve done to the comedy club on fantasy? Not the entire class...just fantasy. They cut it in half and took out the bar. It’s extremely small. I will not sail on fantasy based on that alone. Now if you’re talking Elation...great. But I have seen Elation go to standing room only. I can’t imagine what fantasy is like. I have not. I have only been on Sensation and Fascination. Thanks for letting me know. Not that I was dying to go on the Fantasy, but now I will definitely never go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted July 7, 2019 #15 Share Posted July 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Joebucks said: I have not. I have only been on Sensation and Fascination. Thanks for letting me know. Not that I was dying to go on the Fantasy, but now I will definitely never go. Yeah I think the fantasy class has the second best comedy club after the Dream class but they messed up fantasy. I remember they were talking about doing away with the Elation comedy club and making the night club double as a comedy club. Thankfully they didn’t do that. Fantasy class has my favorite night club. Smaller...but the bar is practically on the dance floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Cruiser Posted July 7, 2019 #16 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Our preference is Conquest class. This is our second favorite class behind the Dream class. Our first two cruises were on Fantasy class. But now we prefer a balcony cabin and Conquest offers many of these cabins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoperDK Posted July 7, 2019 #17 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I vote for the Conquest class ship. Our last Fantasy cruise was not to our liking at all. I know people enjoy the ship, but we go on newer ships now. I particularly dislike the cabin size. Smaller bathroom and no sofa. It is really cramped. Lots of balcony cabins to choose from on Conquest class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare nydney1 Posted July 7, 2019 #18 Share Posted July 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Saint Greg said: Agreed....but also I think the ships are better. Agreed. New Orleans wins hands down 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackenzie80 Posted August 16, 2019 #19 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 11:14 AM, Saint Greg said: Have you seen what they’ve done to the comedy club on fantasy? Not the entire class...just fantasy. They cut it in half and took out the bar. It’s extremely small. I will not sail on fantasy based on that alone. Now if you’re talking Elation...great. But I have seen Elation go to standing room only. I can’t imagine what fantasy is like. Isn't that small. Few people standing but on my cruises never had anyone complaining they couldn't get in. And the Bar is on the outside of the comedy room. And no real need for a bar as there are plenty of cocktail servers taking drink orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFan33579 Posted August 16, 2019 #20 Share Posted August 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, mackenzie80 said: Isn't that small. Few people standing but on my cruises never had anyone complaining they couldn't get in. And the Bar is on the outside of the comedy room. And no real need for a bar as there are plenty of cocktail servers taking drink orders. All Fantasy class ships have a bar outside the aft lounge. Several of these have been converted to an Alchemy Bar. I believe the previous poster was referring to the rest of the Fantasy class ships that also have a bar in the aft lounge. This makes it easy to get a drink without relying on a server. It is also is a good place to sit for shows too. You are the first person I have heard who has at least implied the change to the comedy club on Fantasy wasn’t a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Saint Greg Posted August 16, 2019 #21 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, mackenzie80 said: Isn't that small. Few people standing but on my cruises never had anyone complaining they couldn't get in. And the Bar is on the outside of the comedy room. And no real need for a bar as there are plenty of cocktail servers taking drink orders. It was cut in half. I'd be surprised if everyone gets in to the adult comedy shows. I cruised on Elation with the bigger club three times and it went to standing room only plenty. I stood for a few shows in there. I can't imagine the smaller club. I can tell you Vista is too small. And the lack of a bar there hurts because people who have to stand have to stand in the way of the servers getting to and from the bar. I wouldn't be surprised if fantasy has the same issue. At least Vista has comedy in the main lounge a few nights. Edited August 16, 2019 by Saint Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canes20 Posted August 16, 2019 #22 Share Posted August 16, 2019 We like Fantasy and all the Fantasy class. Mush less waiting in all areas. Going on Valor next month, been on Glory and Dream, but still prefer Fantasy class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegus Posted August 17, 2019 #23 Share Posted August 17, 2019 this is a 3 month old thread, and OP has probably already made a decision, but since we are posting. I think a 4-5 day cruse for new cruisers is great, either they like it or not, and SACRILEGE, if not and adult can survive 4-5 days. Based on that i don't think the ship maters as much, introduced to a sea day, introduced to a port of call, introduced to dining options i.e. MDR, Guys, buffet, introduced to entertainment, etc. Once your hooked you can decide what fits you best. Love to cruise, first was a 4 night honeymoon, 10 years later it was a I'm bored to death 7 nighter, learned what works for me. Now its at least 3 of the 7 nights a year for past 7 or more years. Everyone needs to be introduced, much like religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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