Baron Barracuda Posted September 9, 2019 #101 Share Posted September 9, 2019 22 hours ago, MaritimeR&R said: There should be an accommodation for those who are truly traveling as a solo. But those gaming the system, husband/wife combos who book 2 rooms for double points and consequently get many double amenities do hurt the loyalty program. Just because they can doesn't mean they should. One of these days, it's going to come back to bite us all in the butt. Have no problem with this (and doubt that Royal does either). Two people paid for 4 and receive loyalty points for 4. Gaming the system would be the wife sailing solo with husband booked as 3rd or 4th person in kids cabin. Even better if they can somehow work in the kids sail free angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 9, 2019 #102 Share Posted September 9, 2019 4 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said: Obviously more money than common sense, the benefits aren’t worth such an expenditure You might want to look into the math before you make a blanket statement like that.😉 Believe it or not, in some cases it can be cheaper. The 150% supplement is the key. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgestang Posted September 9, 2019 #103 Share Posted September 9, 2019 I tried to talk the wife into taking one of these 'free' cruises the casino keeps sending me prior to our next sailing in April so we can make the next level and get more of a discount.....she won't do it....so then I said I was going to do it without her....I thought it was a great idea...we only need 4 points.....but evidently it wasn't a really good idea to say I was going to take a cruise alone...without her 😉 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mil76 Posted September 9, 2019 #104 Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 9/8/2019 at 4:02 AM, Host Clarea said: In the past, Royal had issues with automatically unlinking a child when they turned 18. Sometimes the child stayed linked at age 18 and beyond and had their C&A levels increased because their parents moved up. A few years ago, Royal started demoting those children upon completion of their first cruise after turning 18. They were demoted to whatever level their parents had on the date the child turned 18. This could still be going on. It's still happening. DS is 20 and in college. When he turned 18 we were all Diamond, and since then he hasn't gone on 2 cruises which boosted the rest of us to D+. We booked a cruise for later this year where he can join us and when we looked at his status we fully expected to see him as D, but he is showing as D+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted September 9, 2019 #105 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: You might want to look into the math before you make a blanket statement like that.😉 Believe it or not, in some cases it can be cheaper. The 150% supplement is the key. I'm going to have to ponder that one for a few minutes. So paying 150% on a suite PLUS 150% on an inside; instead of paying 200% on the suite- for the benefit of 7 points (on a 7 day sailing) Keeping in mind you are D+ at this point to even qualify for the 150% supplement, so we are now chasing Pinnacle................I need a drink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 9, 2019 #106 Share Posted September 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: I'm going to have to ponder that one for a few minutes. So paying 150% on a suite PLUS 150% on an inside; instead of paying 200% on the suite- for the benefit of 7 points (on a 7 day sailing) Keeping in mind you are D+ at this point to even qualify for the 150% supplement, so we are now chasing Pinnacle................I need a drink! Hypothetical example. Lots of rounding. 4 grand pp for a GS is 8 grand plus tax 150% supplement makes it 6 grand for solo 1 grand pp for an inside is 2 grand plus tax 150% supplement makes it $1500 for solo Total for two cabins around $7500 plus tax And like Maritime said, twice the ammenities. Works very well on TA's and repos where suites are expensive and insides are dirt cheap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted September 9, 2019 #107 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, John&LaLa said: Hypothetical example. Lots of rounding. 4 grand pp for a GS is 8 grand plus tax 150% supplement makes it 6 grand for solo 1 grand pp for an inside is 2 grand plus tax 150% supplement makes it $1500 for solo Total for two cabins around $7500 plus tax And like Maritime said, twice the ammenities. Works very well on TA's and repos where suites are expensive and insides are dirt cheap You sold me!! (I still want a drink!!) 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 9, 2019 #108 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, not-enough-cruising said: You sold me!! (I still want a drink!!) 😎 Love all, serve all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy_Tbird Posted September 9, 2019 #109 Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 3:36 AM, little britain said: This is where the system is flawed... so the daughter A has inherited status from parents and gets married to B... A and B are both diamond A and B divorce A moves in with C and C becomes diamond B moves in with D and D becomes diamond A and C split up. A moves in with E and E becomes diamond C moves in with F and F becomes diamond...... No wonder the lounge is overcrowded! Perhaps my understanding is incorrect but A moves in with C who is not Diamond in points but acquires Diamond by virtue of the relationship with A. Same with B and D. But when A and C split up, if C has not acquired enough points to remain Diamond on their own, C would be demoted to actual points earned. C and D do not get to keep the status of their former partner. E and F would now enjoy the relationship status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted September 9, 2019 #110 Share Posted September 9, 2019 51 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Hypothetical example. Lots of rounding. 4 grand pp for a GS is 8 grand plus tax 150% supplement makes it 6 grand for solo 1 grand pp for an inside is 2 grand plus tax 150% supplement makes it $1500 for solo Total for two cabins around $7500 plus tax And like Maritime said, twice the ammenities. Works very well on TA's and repos where suites are expensive and insides are dirt cheap And that’s just on a GS, take a look at that on a Star class suite and there would be large savings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted September 9, 2019 #111 Share Posted September 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, Katy_Tbird said: Perhaps my understanding is incorrect but A moves in with C who is not Diamond in points but acquires Diamond by virtue of the relationship with A. Same with B and D. But when A and C split up, if C has not acquired enough points to remain Diamond on their own, C would be demoted to actual points earned. C and D do not get to keep the status of their former partner. E and F would now enjoy the relationship status. It is rare that Royal actually demotes anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted September 9, 2019 #112 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, Ourusualbeach said: And that’s just on a GS, take a look at that on a Star class suite and there would be large savings. I just need to focus on getting to 340 points to get the supplement, I am about 100 away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted September 9, 2019 #113 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Just now, not-enough-cruising said: I just need to focus on getting to 340 points to get the supplement, I am about 100 away Solo in suites, you’ll be there in no time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted September 9, 2019 #114 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Solo in suites, you’ll be there in no time. I like the way you are thinking, now I just need to get the wife on board (or off board!!) Edited September 9, 2019 by not-enough-cruising typos because i have sausage fingers 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted September 9, 2019 #115 Share Posted September 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Solo in suites, you’ll be there in no time. I told Dan I'll be back in January😇 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted September 9, 2019 #116 Share Posted September 9, 2019 15 hours ago, little britain said: Under your numbers yes both would have 110 points; but where this happens is when one partner has many more points than the other. Wife travels whilst husband works....!! So let’s say the wife has 170 points and the husband has 100. In this example at the end of the 5n cruise wife would have 180 and husband 110. Because they are linked in a “relationship “ they will both enjoy her D+ status on their next cruise. I know of people where one will be solo in a suite and the other in an inside. The suite would get 15 points for this 5n cruise. This is what I thought it would be, but what had me confused was that they would book 2 cabins on the same cruise. If the husband is going to be able to enjoy the wife's level because they are married, why book the second cabin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted September 9, 2019 #117 Share Posted September 9, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said: This is what I thought it would be, but what had me confused was that they would book 2 cabins on the same cruise. If the husband is going to be able to enjoy the wife's level because they are married, why book the second cabin? Chasing points. The solo in the suite gets 3 points per night while the solo in the non suite gets 2 points per night. They are chasing Pinnacle. If they booked one suite they would get 10 points Edited September 9, 2019 by Ourusualbeach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted September 9, 2019 #118 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: Hypothetical example. Lots of rounding. 4 grand pp for a GS is 8 grand plus tax 150% supplement makes it 6 grand for solo 1 grand pp for an inside is 2 grand plus tax 150% supplement makes it $1500 for solo Total for two cabins around $7500 plus tax And like Maritime said, twice the ammenities. Works very well on TA's and repos where suites are expensive and insides are dirt cheap Except inside cabin person will not get GS perks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted September 9, 2019 #119 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 minute ago, SRF said: Except inside cabin person will not get GS perks. Not really missing anything since they are D+ and have CL access. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted September 9, 2019 #120 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, SRF said: Except inside cabin person will not get GS perks. However if that guest is Pinnacle level, they get most of the perks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mac_tlc Posted September 10, 2019 #121 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: And that’s just on a GS, take a look at that on a Star class suite and there would be large savings. 1 hour ago, Ourusualbeach said: Not really missing anything since they are D+ and have CL access. For Oasis & Quantum Class, If D+, inside passenger would not get unlimited VOOM from GS, and if Star Class, wouldn’t get drink package or unlimited dining or paid gratuities. I guess you can deduct that cost from the savings to see if it still makes sense. Probably makes more sense on non-Oasis/Quantum class. mac_tlc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted September 10, 2019 #122 Share Posted September 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, mac_tlc said: For Oasis & Quantum Class, If D+, inside passenger would not get unlimited VOOM from GS, and if Star Class, wouldn’t get drink package or unlimited dining or paid gratuities. I guess you can deduct that cost from the savings to see if it still makes sense. Probably makes more sense on non-Oasis/Quantum class. mac_tlc Purchasing the drinks, dining and gratuities would set you back around $1000. Star class is rarely offered for less than $5000pp and goes up significantly from there. There’s definitely savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare RCCL Fan Posted September 10, 2019 #123 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I've already convinced my wife that if she divorces me, she looses her status. shhhhh!!! i can't let her find out she would keep it! j/k! lol 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 10, 2019 #124 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: And that’s just on a GS, take a look at that on a Star class suite and there would be large savings. But that won't work, because the STAR class amenities are only given to the suite occupants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted September 10, 2019 #125 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said: Chasing points. The solo in the suite gets 3 points per night while the solo in the non suite gets 2 points per night. They are chasing Pinnacle. If they booked one suite they would get 10 points Not necessarily, might be cheaper, see above. Maybe one of the two snores really, really bad. 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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