Cruise Ship Locations - During the cruise ship ban of 2020/2021/2022

[Aus Traveller]

3 hours ago, SeaDog-46 said:

Aus Traveller - Pacific Dawn is underway in Moreton Bay with no destination.

Thanks for that. By the time we saw the ship and got out a telescope to look closer, the ship was too far away to distinguish which one it was.

[Docker123]

From The Age

 

Six cruise ships ordered to leave Australian waters

Six cruise ships off the coast of NSW have been ordered to leave Australian waters, but NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller has accused them of "lingering" and delaying their departure.

Mr Fuller said he was in constant contact with federal authorities about how to move them on, saying "NSW is not a safe haven for every cruise ship".

"If they had have left eight days ago, nine days ago, when the Prime Minister called this as an emergency ... they would be back at their port of origin now.

[MicCanberra]

I am not sure where they are to go (their home ports) but surely the crews are best being kept close to us rather than elsewhere.

[SeaDog-46]

Zaandam & Rotterdam did an unusual Panama Canal transit via new lock last night,

They may have done a record transit & are now both racing at max speed to Florida at over 20 knots.

[SeaDog-46]

Rotterdam photo.

[SeaDog-46]

Pacific Dawn & Sea Princess are anchored off Caloundra Qld.

[MicCanberra]

wow, that is travelling

 

[Kiwi Kruzer]

59 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

I am not sure where they are to go (their home ports) but surely the crews are best being kept close to us rather than elsewhere.

They will look a bit silly if they have to go to the cruise lines and ask for a Hospital ship to help out .

[MicCanberra]

9 minutes ago, Kiwi Kruzer said:

They will look a bit silly if they have to go to the cruise lines and ask for a Hospital ship to help out .

yes, they will. but then we have come to expect those from the US to look a bit silly lately.

[The_Big_M]

32 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

yes, they will. but then we have come to expect those from the US to look a bit silly lately.

 

Except here we're talking about Australian authorities (again). It's been evident a number of times they really have no idea.

[SeaDog-46]

Celebrity Solstice entering Port Kembla escorted by 2 Kembla tugs.

 

Carnival Spirit slow steaming off NSW North coast - eta Brisbane 2nd April.

[Porky55]

7 hours ago, Docker123 said:

From The Age

 

Six cruise ships ordered to leave Australian waters

Six cruise ships off the coast of NSW have been ordered to leave Australian waters, but NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller has accused them of "lingering" and delaying their departure.

Mr Fuller said he was in constant contact with federal authorities about how to move them on, saying "NSW is not a safe haven for every cruise ship".

"If they had have left eight days ago, nine days ago, when the Prime Minister called this as an emergency ... they would be back at their port of origin now.

Aren’t a few of them based here anyway? It’s ok, we will take them in Qld 👍

Edited March 31, 2020 by Porky55

[Aus Traveller]

1 minute ago, Porky55 said:

Aren’t a few of them based here anyway?

He probably doesn't know that Australia is their "port of origin": many ships are based in Australia. On the other hand, maybe he means port of registry??

[Vader1111]

7 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said:

He probably doesn't know that Australia is their "port of origin": many ships are based in Australia. On the other hand, maybe he means port of registry??

That applies to some ships...

 

However, there are a lot of ships which are only based here for 6 months of the year.  For example, I have no idea why the Royal Caribbean ships are still hanging around offshore.  There's not a snowball's chance in Hell of them taking any passengers onboard until Spring at the very earliest (probably Spring 2021).

 

I guess the question is where these ships should actually go?  They can't just go to their (Australian) winter homes - Singapore or Vancouver - as both ports are closed.  So where are they supposed to go?  I guess they could go home to the USA, but the docks in Miami are probably full already.

[MicCanberra]

2 hours ago, Vader1111 said:

That applies to some ships...

 

However, there are a lot of ships which are only based here for 6 months of the year.  For example, I have no idea why the Royal Caribbean ships are still hanging around offshore.  There's not a snowball's chance in Hell of them taking any passengers onboard until Spring at the very earliest (probably Spring 2021).

They won't take passengers onboard before spring elsewhere either.

[Vader1111]

15 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

They won't take passengers onboard before spring elsewhere either.

True.. but if they're going to be mothballed, then they should do so in their home port - not loitering off the Australian coast.

 

Who knows when they'll be able to start operating again?  It could be during the Australian 20/21 summer season, or the northern 2021 season, or (my bet) the Australian 21/22 season.  Surely they're not planning on leaving them here for 18 months?

[Aus Traveller]

3 minutes ago, Vader1111 said:

True.. but if they're going to be mothballed, then they should do so in their home port - not loitering off the Australian coast.

 

Who knows when they'll be able to start operating again?  It could be during the Australian 20/21 summer season, or the northern 2021 season, or (my bet) the Australian 21/22 season.  Surely they're not planning on leaving them here for 18 months?

For several of the ships loitering off our coast, Australian ports are their home port.

[Chiliburn]

Royal ships are registered in Nassau.Thats a big ask to tell them to go there.

 I t would take them 2 months. Ovation and voyager would have to go via Europe.

If they have crew with suspect health ,there’s not a lot of hospitals in the middle of the pacific or Indian Oceans.

[MicCanberra]

25 minutes ago, Vader1111 said:

True.. but if they're going to be mothballed, then they should do so in their home port - not loitering off the Australian coast.

 

Who knows when they'll be able to start operating again?  It could be during the Australian 20/21 summer season, or the northern 2021 season, or (my bet) the Australian 21/22 season.  Surely they're not planning on leaving them here for 18 months?

For most of them, this was their home port before things went sour.

[Chiliburn]

Wouldn’t their home port be where they are registered?

[MicCanberra]

17 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

Wouldn’t their home port be where they are registered?

no, some ships would never visit the place where they are actually registered.

Liberia is one such place.

[Aus Traveller]

35 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

Wouldn’t their home port be where they are registered?

For instance Princess ships are registered in Bermuda. They are home-ported in various places, with a few home-ported in Australia.

[Chiliburn]

Well no one told the Australian government this.

 

 I suppose if they all went to the place of registration there wouldn’t be enough room for them all.

[Vader1111]

1 hour ago, Aus Traveller said:

For several of the ships loitering off our coast, Australian ports are their home port.

If they're only here for 6 months of the year, then Australia is not their home port.

 

Royal Caribbean is an American company, so the ships should either go to the USA, or the port where they are registered.

 

Ships which operate out of Australia 12-months of the year, such as the P&O fleet, should be allowed to stay.

 

The Ruby Princess should be allowed to stay as well, while they still have CV-19 onboard.  It's not feasible to send them to the US, sailing across the open waters of the Pacific, with crew on board who may require urgent medical care.

[Aus Traveller]

7 minutes ago, Vader1111 said:

If they're only here for 6 months of the year, then Australia is not their home port.

 

Royal Caribbean is an American company, so the ships should either go to the USA, or the port where they are registered.

 

Ships which operate out of Australia 12-months of the year, such as the P&O fleet, should be allowed to stay.

 

The Ruby Princess should be allowed to stay as well, while they still have CV-19 onboard.  It's not feasible to send them to the US, sailing across the open waters of the Pacific, with crew on board who may require urgent medical care.

Sea Princess and Sun Princess have been home-ported in Australia for years. Golden and Ruby are here currently.