LXA350 Posted May 17, 2020 #101 Share Posted May 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, 4774Papa said: Upon entering the buffet there are always at least one attendant making everyone wash their hands in purell. Doesn't that work? I love the Celebrity salad bars. Tongs are used to pickup the lettuce and other items. I have never seen anyone at a Celebrity buffet salad bar try to pick up an item with their fingers. Are there germs on the tongs, perhaps, but I haven't gotten sick on 20 ocean and 4 river cruises. I noticed after two Royal C. cruises that a large portion of the buffet is not self service, but service by attendants. Perhaps that is the way to go, have attendants serve. But as soon as someone touches his mouth, caughs, sneezes etc the germs are back and then you grab tongs etc. The concept of the buffet is not feasible, since it always has been a incubator for viruses spreading onboard with COVID-19 the cruiselines have no other choice than to think of a new and safer concept. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocruiseguy Posted May 17, 2020 Author #102 Share Posted May 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, Ride-The-Waves said: Do you really think things are any better behind the kitchen doors in dining rooms? Likely much worse. How do you know that "he infected everything he touched with his dirty hands?" We have no idea where yours have been before you walk into an MDR. Actually I trust the kitchens of cruise ships much more than my local restaurant. They know that they have to practice good hygiene in the ship's galleys or they could have a wide spread infection impacting hundreds or thousands of passengers. I trust the employees much more than my fellow passengers. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonnaTLC Posted May 17, 2020 #103 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 hours ago, K.T.B. said: I'd love to see them do a similar experiment with every day situations. Like using a revolving door, or riding an elevator, or using a shopping cart while going through the store. I'd be willing to bet the transference rate is MUCH higher than that of a buffet. HUGE transference on phones, TV remotes, bathroom faucets, flushers, and plane tables and armrests, and doorknobs. They have done these experiments. However, we are mostly aware of those, wash our hands before exiting a bathroom, hand sanitize, I carry sani wipes with me at all times and in a plane/hotel room, etc, wipe down those surfaces. My DH always thought me a bit wacko (I am a nurse, so pretty aware of germs), but now is a true convert. If anything, this pandemic has made us rethink and change habits to prevent diseases. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted May 17, 2020 #104 Share Posted May 17, 2020 It wouldn't surprise me at all to see them try to turn these into some type of For Pay venue. Unfortunately that's the way they think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorky Posted May 17, 2020 #105 Share Posted May 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, tocruiseguy said: Actually I trust the kitchens of cruise ships much more than my local restaurant. They know that they have to practice good hygiene in the ship's galleys or they could have a wide spread infection impacting hundreds or thousands of passengers. I trust the employees much more than my fellow passengers. Me to, you only have to do a galley tour to see the standards they adhere to. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poffles Posted May 17, 2020 #106 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, 4774Papa said: Upon entering the buffet there are always at least one attendant making everyone wash their hands in purell. Doesn't that work? I love the Celebrity salad bars. Tongs are used to pickup the lettuce and other items. I have never seen anyone at a Celebrity buffet salad bar try to pick up an item with their fingers. Are there germs on the tongs, perhaps, but I haven't gotten sick on 20 ocean and 4 river cruises. I noticed after two Royal C. cruises that a large portion of the buffet is not self service, but service by attendants. Perhaps that is the way to go, have attendants serve. Not witnessing doesn't mean nasty doesn't happen. I watched a lady (on Celebrity) take the serving spoon out of something and use her finger to swipe it to taste (think it was a waffle topping or something) and liking it she was about to take the same spoon to dish some ... I caught her just before she did it and said something ... I don't think she even realized she was doing it as she reacted surprised with herself instead of being reactive to me. Sadly this would certainly not be the only story that peeps could share. I will add that I have never gotten sick either of all the times eating in the buffet but I am not entirely opposed to them doing some sort of 'sheltering' the food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poffles Posted May 17, 2020 #107 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, NonnaTLC said: HUGE transference on phones, TV remotes, bathroom faucets, flushers, and plane tables and armrests, and doorknobs. They have done these experiments. However, we are mostly aware of those, wash our hands before exiting a bathroom, hand sanitize, I carry sani wipes with me at all times and in a plane/hotel room, etc, wipe down those surfaces. My DH always thought me a bit wacko (I am a nurse, so pretty aware of germs), but now is a true convert. If anything, this pandemic has made us rethink and change habits to prevent diseases. This makes me think how coughing and sneezing into one's hands use to be the norm and nobody gave it a second thought, now when I see someone do that I am appalled and disgusted. We are now at a new level of that. Edited May 17, 2020 by poffles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted May 17, 2020 #108 Share Posted May 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, poffles said: This makes me think how coughing and sneezing into one's hands use to be the norm and nobody gave it a second thought, now when I see someone do that I am appalled and disgusted. We are now at a new level of that. I cough all the time but have congestive heart failure, people don’t know that though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poffles Posted May 17, 2020 #109 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, dkjretired said: I cough all the time but have congestive heart failure, people don’t know that though. OH I wasn't referring to coughing itself, it's the coughing without cover and coughing into ones hands then immediately touching things (opening a door etc). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIguy Posted May 17, 2020 #110 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I am working on a device sort of like the exploding dye packets that bank robbers get that will spread brown color on people who leave a public bathroom without thoroughly washing their hands. Social shaming is all the rage and it works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare C-Dragons Posted May 17, 2020 #111 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, poffles said: This makes me think how coughing and sneezing into one's hands use to be the norm and nobody gave it a second thought, now when I see someone do that I am appalled and disgusted. We are now at a new level of that. Actually the proper way to cover a cough or sneeze is to aim into your elbow, if you don’t have a Kleenex. 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poffles Posted May 17, 2020 #112 Share Posted May 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, C-Dragons said: Actually the proper way to cover a cough or sneeze is to aim into your elbow, if you don’t have a Kleenex. 😉 Yes I know, thus my point. Tell that to the others that don't seem to get that even after years and years of education that has been out there on this 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poffles Posted May 17, 2020 #113 Share Posted May 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, STIguy said: I am working on a device sort of like the exploding dye packets that bank robbers get that will spread brown color on people who leave a public bathroom without thoroughly washing their hands. Social shaming is all the rage and it works. Similar to turning the pool water colour for those that ummmm ... pee in the pool 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted May 17, 2020 #114 Share Posted May 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, poffles said: Similar to turning the pool water colour for those that ummmm ... pee in the pool 🙂 Don't sweat it. Everybody did this at least once in public pool as a kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retired dude Posted May 17, 2020 #115 Share Posted May 17, 2020 best buffet experience: recent cruise where my wife and i are enjoying our lunch at the buffet and we see a 500lb man and his 300 lb wife walk up to the salad bar and rather than use the utensils to scoop out a serving of egg and chicken salad, they merely take the two big stainless containers, put them in their scooters, add a bag of crackers and fruit and leave the room..Maybe they were more sanitary than most, but my wife and i got up without finishing our lunch and went to the gym..He did not leave the serving spoon, so i think it was nice on his part..Makes us think if the ending of buffets will have a positive effect on the health of america..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poffles Posted May 17, 2020 #116 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, retired dude said: best buffet experience: recent cruise where my wife and i are enjoying our lunch at the buffet and we see a 500lb man and his 300 lb wife walk up to the salad bar and rather than use the utensils to scoop out a serving of egg and chicken salad, they merely take the two big stainless containers, put them in their scooters, add a bag of crackers and fruit and leave the room..Maybe they were more sanitary than most, but my wife and i got up without finishing our lunch and went to the gym..He did not leave the serving spoon, so i think it was nice on his part..Makes us think if the ending of buffets will have a positive effect on the health of america..... 😲 I'm no size 2 and do not make the gym my home on a cruise (or anywhere LOL) so who am I to judge, so size aside that is totally bizarre no matter who did this. Us humans are an interesting species 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpirate Posted May 17, 2020 #117 Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/14/2020 at 9:50 AM, TeeRick said: Another gross buffet thread. Never ends does it?.they still keep going to the buffet though so they can complain.its like living with my elderly mother.always something to complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poffles Posted May 17, 2020 #118 Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, scpirate said: Never ends does it?.they still keep going to the buffet though so they can complain.its like living with my elderly mother.always something to complain about. Don't know about others but I go for the food, entertainment is just thrown in. 🤣No complaining here, the buffet is my go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinboy Posted May 18, 2020 #119 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, sfaaa said: Don't sweat it. Everybody did this at least once in public pool as a kid. LOL--- Ever see how long some people stay in the pool on Celebrity Cruise Lines without having to-----etc, etc.? It's easy to tell because their eyes look around at the sky and they get a blank look on their face. No, Dude, I'm not talking from experience . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted May 18, 2020 #120 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 3:16 PM, K.T.B. said: I'd love to see them do a similar experiment with every day situations. Like using a revolving door, or riding an elevator, or using a shopping cart while going through the store. I'd be willing to bet the transference rate is MUCH higher than that of a buffet. I agree, and why the bug is everywhere and killing people everywhere! Wash wash wash and wear that mask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipmaster Posted May 18, 2020 #121 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, retired dude said: best buffet experience: recent cruise where my wife and i are enjoying our lunch at the buffet and we see a 500lb man and his 300 lb wife walk up to the salad bar and rather than use the utensils to scoop out a serving of egg and chicken salad, they merely take the two big stainless containers, put them in their scooters, add a bag of crackers and fruit and leave the room..Maybe they were more sanitary than most, but my wife and i got up without finishing our lunch and went to the gym..He did not leave the serving spoon, so i think it was nice on his part..Makes us think if the ending of buffets will have a positive effect on the health of america..... 500 lb and 300lb, do you have a scale? I got to see this one 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4774Papa Posted May 18, 2020 #122 Share Posted May 18, 2020 One thing that cruise lines could do as well would be to have pre-prepared sandwiches. They would be wrapped in something and an attendant could provide them in a speedy manner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipeeinthepool Posted May 18, 2020 #123 Share Posted May 18, 2020 14 hours ago, poffles said: Similar to turning the pool water colour for those that ummmm ... pee in the pool 🙂 That's a very bad idea. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drakes2 Posted May 18, 2020 #124 Share Posted May 18, 2020 14 hours ago, Pinboy said: Ever see how long some people stay in the pool on Celebrity Cruise Lines without having to-----etc, etc.? What about the people who are exercising on the pool deck sweating like crazy then jump in pool to cool off without showering. They jump in I get out. YUK! Saw it with my own eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STIguy Posted May 18, 2020 #125 Share Posted May 18, 2020 14 hours ago, chipmaster said: 500 lb and 300lb, do you have a scale? I got to see this one 😄 The ship lists to the side they are on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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