Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted June 18, 2020 #1 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) Carnival just sold 6 ships is Holland next? Carnival Fantasy (built in 1990), Ecstasy (1991), Sensation (1993), Fascination (1994), Imagination (1995), Inspiration (1996), Elation (1998) and Paradise Edited June 18, 2020 by Gail & Marty sailing away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted June 18, 2020 #2 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Already being discussed. Have to assume its 6 ships across all Carnival cruise lines, not just Carnivalcruise line. The other thread has more source info. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvertoGold Posted June 18, 2020 #3 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Who is buying these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted June 18, 2020 #4 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Thanks for the information. Will have to check out the other thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted June 18, 2020 #5 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Costa neoclassica was sold to Bahamas Paradise while Costa neoriviera was sold to sister company AIDA.Costa Victoria is being sold to an Italian shipyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted June 18, 2020 #6 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Carnival just sold 6 ships is Holland next?Carnival Fantasy (built in 1990), Ecstasy (1991), Sensation (1993), Fascination (1994), Imagination (1995), Inspiration (1996), Elation (1998) and ParadiseAre all these 8 ships already sold or expected to be sold soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeniEncinitas Posted June 18, 2020 #7 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Interesting! I went to Carnival site. A lot more info. Denise😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PMP Posted June 18, 2020 #8 Share Posted June 18, 2020 And more to come according to Mr. (Round-up) Donald. This may be the end of the S.(Maasdam, Veendam) and R. Class ships (Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Volendam, Zaandam).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted June 18, 2020 #9 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Its only six ships being sold, not 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailingdutchy Posted June 18, 2020 #10 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, SilvertoGold said: Who is buying these? Just guessing but maybe the Chinese so they can start their own Cruise company , can't think of anybody else in this market . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted June 18, 2020 #11 Share Posted June 18, 2020 This move is by Carnival is bound to affect HAL. I can defiantly see the Maasdam and Veendam go. They were built in 1993 and 1996 respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymich Posted June 18, 2020 #12 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Himself said: This move is by Carnival is bound to affect HAL. I can defiantly see the Maasdam and Veendam go. They were built in 1993 and 1996 respectively. I will not be surprised if HAL is blended into Princess or vice versa if needed. Eliminating ships will allow less salaries and a chance to get lean and in essence actually start over. The longer this drags on the more Companies with Zero revenue will have to do drastic things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted June 18, 2020 #13 Share Posted June 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Nymich said: I will not be surprised if HAL is blended into Princess or vice versa if needed. Eliminating ships will allow less salaries and a chance to get lean and in essence actually start over. The longer this drags on the more Companies with Zero revenue will have to do drastic things. I f that happen I would hope Princess would be blended into Holland America! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted June 18, 2020 Author #14 Share Posted June 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Himself said: I f that happen I would hope Princess would be blended into Holland America! I agree with you the Holland America product is better. We have sailed a lot on both. And can tell the difference. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsel Posted June 18, 2020 #15 Share Posted June 18, 2020 I agree with you the Holland America product is better. We have sailed a lot on both. And can tell the difference.What's the difference please, between Princess and Holland America?I have read everywhere that Princess has better shows, activities and entertainment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lido deck main Posted June 18, 2020 #16 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Hi Drsel, Of course it is all subjective. We sail both lines, but mainly HAL. For us, the staff are better, meaning the MDR, Lido and stateroom attendants are much more attentive on HAL lines, they all know your name by end of day one. The shows itself I would say are the same. The entertainment from the Crew Staff i.e. trivia, games, etc there is more on Princess, Princess usually has way more staff than HAL, Princess can have 5 staff in entertainment department, and we are lucky to get two entertainment staff on a HAL ship. We usually sail longer voyages on HAL 28 plus days. The itinerary's are better in my opinion on HAL. Princess has the International Cafe and the Piazza which are both great, many times nice music in the piazza, great place to sit for coffee. I am going to get flamed for this from some people, but I think the fellow cruisers on HAL are nicer than Princess. Of course just my opinion again. We have a great time on any cruise, but I do prefer the HAL product. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPNYGuy Posted June 18, 2020 #17 Share Posted June 18, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, drsel said: Its only six ships being sold, not 14 6 for now, and more on the way. https://cruiseradio.net/carnival-sells-six-cruise-ships-more-to-come/ “In addition to the six ships which already are definitely leaving various Carnival Corporation brands, Donald has indicated that there are negotiations in place which could see more vessels exiting as well.” some of these are slated to be flat out scrapped and not repurposed. Edited June 18, 2020 by UPNYGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted June 18, 2020 #18 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Tells you a lot when some of them are going to be sold for scrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrblach Posted June 18, 2020 #19 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, drsel said: What's the difference please, between Princess and Holland America? I have read everywhere that Princess has better shows, activities and entertainment we find that Princess is fun with music & activities for everyone. HAL is stuffy and for old people - like a nursing home - assisted living. HAL has a nite club for classical music but very little rock & roll. we did the 2017 world cruise on the amsterdam LA to FTL. we died. each to his own. no more HAL for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted June 18, 2020 Author #20 Share Posted June 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, jrblach said: we find that Princess is fun with music & activities for everyone. HAL is stuffy and for old people - like a nursing home - assisted living. HAL has a nite club for classical music but very little rock & roll. we did the 2017 world cruise on the amsterdam LA to FTL. we died. each to his own. no more HAL for us. You have not been to a ship that has Billboard and Rolling Stone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHCruiser Posted June 18, 2020 #21 Share Posted June 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gail & Marty sailing away said: You have not been to a ship that has Billboard and Rolling Stone. You've got that right. Our last cruise on Holland was in late January. Went to BB King every single night. Standing room only, lots of dancing, etc. Busy days on shore, and so much to do after dinner that we had to prioritize every night. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue from Canada Posted June 19, 2020 #22 Share Posted June 19, 2020 14 hours ago, Sir PMP said: And more to come according to Mr. (Round-up) Donald. This may be the end of the S.(Maasdam, Veendam) and R. Class ships (Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Volendam, Zaandam).. But I only sail on the S and R class ships! OK, I did do the Noordam's maiden voyage and didn't like the bigger ship. My cruise days may be over - Waaaaaaa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzeluver Posted June 19, 2020 #23 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Nowhere in the article does it state that those specific ships are being sold. It lists them because the writer of the article wanted to identify the oldest class of Carnival ships as selling them would be the most obvious choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted June 19, 2020 #24 Share Posted June 19, 2020 22 hours ago, Gail & Marty sailing away said: Carnival just sold 6 ships is Holland next? Carnival Fantasy (built in 1990), Ecstasy (1991), Sensation (1993), Fascination (1994), Imagination (1995), Inspiration (1996), Elation (1998) and Paradise In the two articles I've read, the six ships are not specified. In one of them in particular, Donald says this class of ships (cited by you above) continues to be popular and book well. Did you find something else out there about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted June 19, 2020 #25 Share Posted June 19, 2020 14 hours ago, jrblach said: we find that Princess is fun with music & activities for everyone. HAL is stuffy and for old people - like a nursing home - assisted living. HAL has a nite club for classical music but very little rock & roll. we did the 2017 world cruise on the amsterdam LA to FTL. we died. each to his own. no more HAL for us. Come on Rich, tell us how you really feel! 😎😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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