Positive Covid 10 days out

[Saint Greg]

I don't like that. I think it's overkill. If you are vaccinated and test negative within 48 hours you should be able to cruise.

[Woodfaerie]

50 minutes ago, Saint Greg said:

I don't like that. I think it's overkill. If you are vaccinated and test negative within 48 hours you should be able to cruise.

Agree  but apparently,  those are not the rules. 

[Woodfaerie]

It's a tragedy on many levels. DD did the right thing by getting tested.  The "exposure coworker" does not believe in vaccinations, thinks its a government hoax and would not take a covid test as was requested by office  management.  I am in awe she even reported to her office that her husband is sick with it.

Insert my DD ,who was tested, asymptomatic, was positive, took another test 4 days later that came out negative. I am negative, her mom. The 8 people that she identified that she came into contact with all miraculously were able to get rapid tests, all being negative. Our 48 hour tests most likely will be negative as we have quarantined.  

If all this goes downhill because of an unvaxxed person who believes its a hoax and was negligent in her mask wearing at the office,  I am going to be freaking pissed. 

Our 72 hour questionaire is tomorrow. We will be honest in it and see what happens. 4 covid cancellations under my belt already and 2 years since my last sailing. I still know that the hassles were going to be worth it but never, ever saw this coming. 

[CruisinMama2003]

15 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

It's a tragedy on many levels. DD did the right thing by getting tested.  The "exposure coworker" does not believe in vaccinations, thinks its a government hoax and would not take a covid test as was requested by office  management.  I am in awe she even reported to her office that her husband is sick with it.

Insert my DD ,who was tested, asymptomatic, was positive, took another test 4 days later that came out negative. I am negative, her mom. The 8 people that she identified that she came into contact with all miraculously were able to get rapid tests, all being negative. Our 48 hour tests most likely will be negative as we have quarantined.  

If all this goes downhill because of an unvaxxed person who believes its a hoax and was negligent in her mask wearing at the office,  I am going to be freaking pissed. 

Our 72 hour questionaire is tomorrow. We will be honest in it and see what happens. 4 covid cancellations under my belt already and 2 years since my last sailing. I still know that the hassles were going to be worth it but never, ever saw this coming. 

Ugh i would be SO pissed off too! I feel so bad for yall 😔 

[Quagmire789]

33 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

It's a tragedy on many levels. DD did the right thing by getting tested.  The "exposure coworker" does not believe in vaccinations, thinks its a government hoax and would not take a covid test as was requested by office  management.  I am in awe she even reported to her office that her husband is sick with it.

Insert my DD ,who was tested, asymptomatic, was positive, took another test 4 days later that came out negative. I am negative, her mom. The 8 people that she identified that she came into contact with all miraculously were able to get rapid tests, all being negative. Our 48 hour tests most likely will be negative as we have quarantined.  

If all this goes downhill because of an unvaxxed person who believes its a hoax and was negligent in her mask wearing at the office,  I am going to be freaking pissed. 

Our 72 hour questionaire is tomorrow. We will be honest in it and see what happens. 4 covid cancellations under my belt already and 2 years since my last sailing. I still know that the hassles were going to be worth it but never, ever saw this coming. 

That's beyond frustrating and such a huge let down 😞

 

Sending happy thoughts your way that you can get it all worked out.

[Babr]

53 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

 

If all this goes downhill because of an unvaxxed person who believes its a hoax and was negligent in her mask wearing at the office,  I am going to be freaking pissed. 

 

Well, there’s a good answer for those folks who still say, “I’m vaxxed. Why should I care if someone else isn’t?” The unvaccinated can impact our lives in oh so many ways.

 

Here’s hoping you can get this worked out.

[jsglow]

1 hour ago, Woodfaerie said:

It's a tragedy on many levels. DD did the right thing by getting tested.  The "exposure coworker" does not believe in vaccinations, thinks its a government hoax and would not take a covid test as was requested by office  management.  I am in awe she even reported to her office that her husband is sick with it.

Insert my DD ,who was tested, asymptomatic, was positive, took another test 4 days later that came out negative. I am negative, her mom. The 8 people that she identified that she came into contact with all miraculously were able to get rapid tests, all being negative. Our 48 hour tests most likely will be negative as we have quarantined.  

If all this goes downhill because of an unvaxxed person who believes its a hoax and was negligent in her mask wearing at the office,  I am going to be freaking pissed. 

Our 72 hour questionaire is tomorrow. We will be honest in it and see what happens. 4 covid cancellations under my belt already and 2 years since my last sailing. I still know that the hassles were going to be worth it but never, ever saw this coming. 

You're an honorable person Wood.  Best of luck with the results of the questionnaire and any additional hoops Carnival puts you through on the way, hopefully, toward 'Welcome Aboard!'  We're all pullin' for ya. 👍 

[BoozinCroozin]

You are opening up a can of worms that you can be held personally liable for if you lie on the health questionnaire. You don't have to give your name, sail date, ship, or anything. The number they gave in the FAQ is specific for covid questions. Explain the scenario, point to the CDC guidelines I provided, and ask them what think or what they do.

 

There is a definite difference between the CDC and Carnival on this situation. Lying on the health questionnaire has consequences that could be more severe than just being given FCC. Imagine showing up to port, getting on the ship, only to be escorted off for trespassing by the police. It was done on another cruise line. 

[jsglow]

Boozin', Wood has said she's going to honestly answer the questionnaire.  She understands the ramifications. 

[Woodfaerie]

5 minutes ago, BoozinCroozin said:

You are opening up a can of worms that you can be held personally liable for if you lie on the health questionnaire. You don't have to give your name, sail date, ship, or anything. The number they gave in the FAQ is specific for covid questions. Explain the scenario, point to the CDC guidelines I provided, and ask them what think or what they do.

 

There is a definite difference between the CDC and Carnival on this situation. Lying on the health questionnaire has consequences that could be more severe than just being given FCC. Imagine showing up to port, getting on the ship, only to be escorted off for trespassing by the police. It was done on another cruise line. 

I never said I was going to lie. 

[BoozinCroozin]

3 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

I never said I was going to lie. 

I know, I never meant it to be interpreted that you would. Do call the number from Carnival's FAQ and tell them the discrepancy from the CDC guidelines. It may get you through the process. Chance may be they let you sail with the agreement of additional testing. Who know? Keep us informed.

[Lee Cruiser]

1 hour ago, Woodfaerie said:

Our 72 hour questionaire is tomorrow. We will be honest in it and see what happens. 4 covid cancellations under my belt already and 2 years since my last sailing. I still know that the hassles were going to be worth it but never, ever saw this coming. 

We are apparently booked on the same Sunrise cruise as you, but haven't heard anything lately about a 72 hour questionnaire.  We haven't received anything from Carnival about it either. Where is this questionnaire? It's not listed anywhere on our planning page. Are they still doing these with the testing requirements?

[Woodfaerie]

7 minutes ago, Lee Cruiser said:

We are apparently booked on the same Sunrise cruise as you, but haven't heard anything lately about a 72 hour questionnaire.  We haven't received anything from Carnival about it either. Where is this questionnaire? It's not listed anywhere on our planning page. Are they still doing these with the testing requirements?

We will get it tomorrow in our email. Its explained on the page 

https://www.carnival.com/Legal/covid-19-legal-notices/covid-19-guest-protocols

 

 

 

 

Edited September 21, 2021 by Woodfaerie
additional info

[Woodfaerie]

UPDATE:  1st Carnival rep I just talked with said, AND I QUOTE HER

 

rep said: "if she i has a negative test dated 48 hours or less, she can cruise.

 

I replied "are you aware that on the CCL website it states that if you are positive within 14 days of sailing you must cancel?"

 

rep said: ( hesitated. on answering, there was a pause...)  "well it is up to her if she wants to go"

I said:  "are you serious? do you know anything about these protocols? You are telling me that its up to her?"

 

rep said: "yes, because no one will know she had a positive test"

 

I hung up on her.  Unfreaking real. As God is my witness, this conversation just took place.

 

[CruisinMama2003]

31 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

We will get it tomorrow in our email. Its explained on the page 

https://www.carnival.com/Legal/covid-19-legal-notices/covid-19-guest-protocols

 

 

 

 

Ours became available to fill out under the "things to do" part of check-in on the website just fyi so you dont miss it. Cruise info seems to come at us in a few different ways these days, it can be confusing sometimes 🥴

[CruisinMama2003]

1 minute ago, Woodfaerie said:

UPDATE:  1st Carnival rep I just talked with said, AND I QUOTE HER

 

rep said: "if she i has a negative test dated 48 hours or less, she can cruise.

 

I replied "are you aware that on the CCL website it states that if you are positive within 14 days of sailing you must cancel?"

 

rep said: ( hesitated. on answering, there was a pause...)  "well it is up to her if she wants to go"

I said:  "are you serious? do you know anything about these protocols? You are telling me that its up to her?"

 

rep said: "yes, because no one will know she had a positive test"

 

I hung up on her.  Unfreaking real. As God is my witness, this conversation just took place.

 

Wow! 

[ontheweb]

4 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

UPDATE:  1st Carnival rep I just talked with said, AND I QUOTE HER

 

rep said: "if she i has a negative test dated 48 hours or less, she can cruise.

 

I replied "are you aware that on the CCL website it states that if you are positive within 14 days of sailing you must cancel?"

 

rep said: ( hesitated. on answering, there was a pause...)  "well it is up to her if she wants to go"

I said:  "are you serious? do you know anything about these protocols? You are telling me that its up to her?"

 

rep said: "yes, because no one will know she had a positive test"

 

I hung up on her.  Unfreaking real. As God is my witness, this conversation just took place.

 

Unfortunate!!!! And I doubt anyone thinks you are making this up.

[Woodfaerie]

30 minutes ago, CruisinMama2003 said:

Ours became available to fill out under the "things to do" part of check-in on the website just fyi so you dont miss it. Cruise info seems to come at us in a few different ways these days, it can be confusing sometimes 🥴

CruisinMama, was this questionnaire the one that asked if you would be fully vaccinated within 14 days of sailing or a more detailed one?  

[jsglow]

35 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

UPDATE:  1st Carnival rep I just talked with said, AND I QUOTE HER

 

rep said: "if she i has a negative test dated 48 hours or less, she can cruise.

 

I replied "are you aware that on the CCL website it states that if you are positive within 14 days of sailing you must cancel?"

 

rep said: ( hesitated. on answering, there was a pause...)  "well it is up to her if she wants to go"

I said:  "are you serious? do you know anything about these protocols? You are telling me that its up to her?"

 

rep said: "yes, because no one will know she had a positive test"

 

I hung up on her.  Unfreaking real. As God is my witness, this conversation just took place.

 

WOW.  Too bad you don't have a recording of that!!!!!  We'll all vouch for you this weekend if it comes to it!  How 'bout a good old fashioned protest? "Let Wood cruise! Let Wood cruise!'  

[jsglow]

5 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

CruisinMama, was this questionnaire the one that asked if you would be fully vaccinated within 14 days of sailing or a more detailed one?  

Wood, it'll pop up on your cruise planner page on Carnival.com.  There's about 5 questions if I remember.  One is certainly about any positive test in the last 14 days.  Plus the standard symptoms stuff.

[Woodfaerie]

Just now, jsglow said:

Wood, it'll pop up on your cruise planner page on Carnival.com.  There's about 5 questions if I remember.  One is certainly about any positive test in the last 14 days.  Plus the standard symptoms stuff.

Thank you. That's all I was looking for was to make sure there are 2 questionnaires. The one asking about being vaccinated which I did  once I could check in, and then the one that I expect tomorrow as the more detailed one  that does not yet show up on my planner.  We expect to "fail" but it will be easier to get a FCC if they cancel vs me taking the steps to do so. 

[CruisinMama2003]

7 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

CruisinMama, was this questionnaire the one that asked if you would be fully vaccinated within 14 days of sailing or a more detailed one?  

It is a more detailed one, has Covid related questions (exposure, positive tests, symptoms, etc),  

[Moviela]

It would seem patiently unfair to deny boarding over a false positive test. I would think the negative test already taken, plus the 2 day required test would be enough evidence that the single test was a false positive. 

 

I would not attempt to be less than straight forward in answering the health questions, an attempt to deceive would not go well. The only other idea I have is an antibody test could demonstrate that the positive test was false.

 

I wish you the best and hope your cruise is enjoyable. 

[Woodfaerie]

6 minutes ago, Moviela said:

It would seem patiently unfair to deny boarding over a false positive test. I would think the negative test already taken, plus the 2 day required test would be enough evidence that the single test was a false positive. 

 

I would not attempt to be less than straight forward in answering the health questions, an attempt to deceive would not go well. The only other idea I have is an antibody test could demonstrate that the positive test was false.

 

I wish you the best and hope your cruise is enjoyable. 

Thank you for your positivity. It has always been my intention to be fully honest with everything. I received my email from Carnival that I can fill out my questionnaire but it is not yet  showing up in our To Do List.  I can only wait so long to hear from them once that is submitted as I have a great many reservations.  I am hoping for a miracle as we are supposed to fly down Friday.

[CruisinMama2003]

3 minutes ago, Woodfaerie said:

Thank you for your positivity. It has always been my intention to be fully honest with everything. I received my email from Carnival that I can fill out my questionnaire but it is not yet  showing up in our To Do List.  I can only wait so long to hear from them once that is submitted as I have a great many reservations.  I am hoping for a miracle as we are supposed to fly down Friday.

 I really hope some kind of exception can be made for your situation, esp with 2 negative tests over a weeks time. Best of luck to you 🤞