Opinions on whether the Commonwealth Government will green light the resumption of cruising on the 17th December, 2021??

[NSWP]

3 hours ago, Bubbeh said:

I might be wrong but I thought the WA economy was about the healthiest in the country, over all.  Tourism may be suffering but even that I'm not too sure of, you can't be into a caravan park in most tourist areas for love or money during the popular times.  I'm told that you need to book and pay 2 years in advance to get into a CO in Broome for example.

Yes Broome is usually very busy with caravan people. But currently people from the other states cannot get into WA, can they? So Broome may not be as busy as it once was.

 

Edited December 11, 2021 by NSWP

[mr walker]

2 hours ago, rkmw said:

Might be worthwhile watching channel 9 news at 6pm tonight because Honey from Facebook is being interviewed about the latest cruising ban

Pass

[Cruisegroover]

5 hours ago, rkmw said:

Might be worthwhile watching channel 9 news at 6pm tonight because Honey from Facebook is being interviewed about the latest cruising ban

Her words ' We are hoping cruising comes back after May but realistically 2022 seems like it might be a write-off" 

 

Big call there based on.............

 

[MicCanberra]

On 12/11/2021 at 7:20 PM, Cruisegroover said:

Her words ' We are hoping cruising comes back after May but realistically 2022 seems like it might be a write-off" 

 

Big call there based on.............

 

I think the first part is correct, but not the second.

Election in May before cruising returns.

[ilikeanswers]

On 12/11/2021 at 1:36 PM, NSWP said:

Yes Broome is usually very busy with caravan people. But currently people from the other states cannot get into WA, can they? So Broome may not be as busy as it once was.

 

Saw something about WA tourism on ABC yesterday and all along the north coast they said business is booming and now they're complaining there are way too many people going fishing 😂. 

[LC1950]

Ummm, who is "Honey from Facebook"?

[OzKiwiJJ]

41 minutes ago, LC1950 said:

Ummm, who is "Honey from Facebook"?

A FB blogger. 

[LC1950]

Thank you OzKiwiJJ. 

[Vader1111]

On 12/13/2021 at 1:51 PM, OzKiwiJJ said:

A FB blogger. 

In other words, a nobody.

[Porky55]

5 hours ago, Vader1111 said:

In other words, a nobody.

Ahhhh Vader1111 - you are a breath of fresh air 😮‍💨🤪

[woodscruise]

Cruise bill to widen federal powers The proposed new legislation governing biosecurity arrangements around cruise ship arrivals (CW 05 Jan) will give the federal government the ability to enforce multiple pre-arrival reporting requirements, as well as creating a “human biosecurity group direction” mechanism allowing for examinations and body sample collection of affected passengers. The Biosecurity Amendment (Enhanced Risk Management) Bill 2022 is currently before the federal parliament, with the explanatory statement saying it is anticipated the changes to the Biosecurity Act “will be made prior to resumption of cruises, so that transitional arrangements will not be required”. The bill has been developed in part as a response to the Ruby Princess’s spread of COVID-19 almost two years ago now (CW 27 Mar), aiming to strengthen the legislative framework for international arrivals with new requirements for pratique and pre-arrival reporting “to specifically support the safe recovery of tourism and related industries”. Among a range of measures, the legislation would allow federal authorities to impose a delay of a maximum 12 hours on the unloading of passengers from a ship in order to allow risk assessments to be undertaken. These assessments could require the provision of contact details and past location information for travellers, as well as mandate their “examination... relating to the assessment and diagnosis of a listed human disease”. A new section of the Act would also detail the circumstances under which individuals who have undergone an examination would also be required to provide specified body samples. In order to become law, the bill must be debated three times in each of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Currently it has been read and debated twice in the House of Representatives, with a third reading agreed to; however the Senate has only had the bill introduced and read a first time. Parliament does not meet again until 08 Feb, and as has previously been noted the government has released an indicative timetable for sittings which only sees the Senate convening for five days in total before the end of Mar. As well as requiring passage in both houses of parliament, the bill would require assent from the Governor General before becoming law. Several industry pundits have noted Minister for Health Greg Hunt’s comments in mid-Nov (CW 16 Nov) that “we would like to see cruising back on before Christmas,” with some describing these stated intentions as “grossly unrealistic”. When he extended the current ban on cruising through until 17 Feb (CW 13 Dec), the minister also began reviewing the cruise ban on a monthly basis, meaning a further update on progress should be expected within the next week or so. The proposed amendments to the Act are under the purview of Minister for Agriculture David Littleproud, who wasn’t able to comment on the anticipated progress of the new bill before

 

Source Cruise Weekly 10January 2022.

[By The Bay]

15 hours ago, woodscruise said:

Cruise bill to widen federal powers The proposed new legislation governing biosecurity arrangements around cruise ship arrivals (CW 05 Jan) will give the federal government the ability to enforce multiple pre-arrival reporting requirements, as well as creating a “human biosecurity group direction” mechanism allowing for examinations and body sample collection of affected passengers. The Biosecurity Amendment (Enhanced Risk Management) Bill 2022 is currently before the federal parliament, with the explanatory statement saying it is anticipated the changes to the Biosecurity Act “will be made prior to resumption of cruises, so that transitional arrangements will not be required”. The bill has been developed in part as a response to the Ruby Princess’s spread of COVID-19 almost two years ago now (CW 27 Mar), aiming to strengthen the legislative framework for international arrivals with new requirements for pratique and pre-arrival reporting “to specifically support the safe recovery of tourism and related industries”. Among a range of measures, the legislation would allow federal authorities to impose a delay of a maximum 12 hours on the unloading of passengers from a ship in order to allow risk assessments to be undertaken. These assessments could require the provision of contact details and past location information for travellers, as well as mandate their “examination... relating to the assessment and diagnosis of a listed human disease”. A new section of the Act would also detail the circumstances under which individuals who have undergone an examination would also be required to provide specified body samples. In order to become law, the bill must be debated three times in each of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Currently it has been read and debated twice in the House of Representatives, with a third reading agreed to; however the Senate has only had the bill introduced and read a first time. Parliament does not meet again until 08 Feb, and as has previously been noted the government has released an indicative timetable for sittings which only sees the Senate convening for five days in total before the end of Mar. As well as requiring passage in both houses of parliament, the bill would require assent from the Governor General before becoming law. Several industry pundits have noted Minister for Health Greg Hunt’s comments in mid-Nov (CW 16 Nov) that “we would like to see cruising back on before Christmas,” with some describing these stated intentions as “grossly unrealistic”. When he extended the current ban on cruising through until 17 Feb (CW 13 Dec), the minister also began reviewing the cruise ban on a monthly basis, meaning a further update on progress should be expected within the next week or so. The proposed amendments to the Act are under the purview of Minister for Agriculture David Littleproud, who wasn’t able to comment on the anticipated progress of the new bill before

 

Source Cruise Weekly 10January 2022.

The way I understand it, the requirement for the Senate to debate it two more times in the 5 days they sit before an election is called, makes it near impossible for cruising to restart until months after a new Government is formed. 

[NSWP]

57 minutes ago, By The Bay said:

The way I understand it, the requirement for the Senate to debate it two more times in the 5 days they sit before an election is called, makes it near impossible for cruising to restart until months after a new Government is formed. 

No guarantee a Labor Govt, Federal or State will give the green light for cruising in this Region. All nervous Nellies.  I am forecasting no cruising will happen in this Region in 2022, yes Mr.Doom and Gloom, but I am a realist.

[Chiliburn]

38 minutes ago, NSWP said:

No guarantee a Labor Govt, Federal or State will give the green light for cruising in this Region. All nervous Nellies.  I am forecasting no cruising will happen in this Region in 2022, yes Mr.Doom and Gloom, but I am a realist.

Yep, forgot about 2022-2023 season.
Their expecting another variant in the middle of the year.

Its to bad we can’t  pass the hat around and get the tennis players lawyers on the job.

Edited January 11, 2022 by Chiliburn

[Chiliburn]

People are starting to ask why the cruise industry is the villain.

 

https://www.galvnews.com/opinion/editorials/free/article_e4baef96-b7f6-53f8-b02f-45b6970920bc.html

[portcbob]

59 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

Yep, forgot about 2022-2023 season.
Their expecting another variant in the middle of the year.

Its to bad we can’t  pass the hat around and get the tennis players lawyers on the job.

Yes guys I agree there will be no cruising probably for a couple of years yet and yes there will be further variants along the way. 

My way of thinking, just say this theory is right and these variants do keep coming this could roll over for another decade. Will Any government in power have the balls to restart cruising, evenly domestically moving forward because if they have ambitions of not allowing it, may as well can the industry forever as this is not going to change.

[Cruisegroover]

2 hours ago, By The Bay said:

The way I understand it, the requirement for the Senate to debate it two more times in the 5 days they sit before an election is called, makes it near impossible for cruising to restart until months after a new Government is formed. 

This is the link to progress of the bill - 2nd reading was in December and a graphic of how bills pass through the parliament.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6776

 

[By The Bay]

2 hours ago, Cruisegroover said:

This is the link to progress of the bill - 2nd reading was in December and a graphic of how bills pass through the parliament.

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6776

 

A lot of back and forth still to play out, plus the GG's assent. Not even half-way there. A quote from the article:

 

"Debated twice in the House of Representatives, with a third reading agreed to; however the Senate has only had the bill introduced and read a first time."

[Chiliburn]

I don’t know if this has been posted but it’s a interesting opinion of a lawyer who specialises is the cruise industry.

 

At LEAST another 6 months before cruising can start. So with the 3 months lead up time,that’s getting on to Christmas.

 I suppose Greg Hunt was right but the wrong Christmas.

 

https://www.victorytravelcruiselawyers.com.au/australias-cruise-ban-crisis-continues/
 

 

 

 

Edited February 1, 2022 by Chiliburn

[Chiliburn]

@By The Bay

So it’s currently in the senate and they have amended it .

So it’s got to go back to the House of Representatives to be approved again.

Is that right ?

And then we will have a change of government that may have a different opinion.

 

 I can’t see much future for our tourism industry.

[Sailaway John]

On 12/10/2021 at 6:35 AM, portcbob said:

It is thought and hoped on the 17th Decrmber the federal government will lift the ban and let cruising to restart. What's your take?????

They didn't and until Hazzard and Albo get out of the scene it is going to be a hard task. just keep asking you local member. Cruising brings Millions into  our economy.

[GUT2407]

Interesting news today Dom is asking why Aussies can go overseas to cruise but can’t cruise locally says he will raise it in Covid Cabinet on Monday.

[NSWP]

1 hour ago, GUT2407 said:

Interesting news today Dom is asking why Aussies can go overseas to cruise but can’t cruise locally says he will raise it in Covid Cabinet on Monday.

Simple mate, the governments don't want the ships here.

[Russell21]

On 2/5/2022 at 9:40 AM, NSWP said:

Simple mate, the governments don't want the ships here.

Fed Gov want the money spent in Australia. Who in their right mind would pay $10,000per person for a 10 day camping trip in the Simpson Desert, or some similar enticing destinations. I refuse to pay the prices set to rip off the foreign tourists.

[Chiliburn]

Apparently the Fed meets tomorrow about the boarders but as we have learned anything is possible.

 

The airlines must be expecting the boarders to open.

 I have been watching some international prices and they have jumped .