spunks Posted June 10, 2023 #26 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Things have changed since COVID. The Concierge lounge on some ships is no longer open to Pinacles. The lounges are pretty small. They are not worried about unauthorized folks drinking or eating for free. They simply do not want unauthorized folks taking up room. Every cruise we have been on since the Pandemic the Concierge announces that unauthorized folks have to leave. They will and do check . Why fight for a seat in a very crowded tiny space when you can easily get a spot in your favorite bar? You get the same benefit everywhere. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted June 10, 2023 #27 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Maybe it's the double pts promo, more diamonds. Just more crowded lounges. We had a lot of pinnacles in our lounge on allure, better view. Often hard to find a seat during happy hour un,ess I went early. The diamond guy was going around asking people to share tables. I traveled with a diamond in the same cabin and abided by the rules, and now that there are even more diamonds and up, I'm for enforcing the rules so the rest of us can sit. Where would you stop, what is a friend, in your cabin, connecting cabins. What would be the def of a friend of the rules bent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted June 10, 2023 #28 Share Posted June 10, 2023 We sailed on Oasis of the Seas and were invited in the Diamond lounge. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted June 10, 2023 #29 Share Posted June 10, 2023 47 minutes ago, sowhat said: We sailed on Oasis of the Seas and were invited in the Diamond lounge. Four non Diamond and invited in? Wow. No wonder folks complain. The Diamond lounge is for D, D+ and on many ships Pinnacle as well. If non D family and friends are invited in (and for the life of me I don’t know why they would be) no wonder there is no space or an overworked concierge for those who have earned the privilege. BTW-if I somehow got non D invited in, I certainly would not mention it on social media. I would be embarrassed. m 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidemama Posted June 10, 2023 #30 Share Posted June 10, 2023 6 hours ago, cruiseboy89130 said: They will add a coffee voucher as they do on some sailings already I like the idea of a coffee voucher to be able to use anywhere on the ship - in addition to the drink vouchers in lieu of the coffee machine access.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglovestocruise Posted June 10, 2023 #31 Share Posted June 10, 2023 3 hours ago, firefly333 said: Maybe it's the double pts promo, more diamonds. Just more crowded lounges. We had a lot of pinnacles in our lounge on allure, better view. Often hard to find a seat during happy hour un,ess I went early. The diamond guy was going around asking people to share tables. I traveled with a diamond in the same cabin and abided by the rules, and now that there are even more diamonds and up, I'm for enforcing the rules so the rest of us can sit. Where would you stop, what is a friend, in your cabin, connecting cabins. What would be the def of a friend of the rules bent. Allure still has the Best DL of the fleet.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted June 10, 2023 #32 Share Posted June 10, 2023 6 hours ago, twinmommy08 said: I think that’s a bit of a reach. Don’t let it ruin your day! I agree, plus the word "illegal" is way out of proportion to the severity of what we are discussing. Against policy is about the strongest wording that comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcur Posted June 10, 2023 #33 Share Posted June 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, seasidemama said: I like the idea of a coffee voucher to be able to use anywhere on the ship - in addition to the drink vouchers in lieu of the coffee machine access.. I'm a 2-3 drinks max in the evening type of person, including a glass of wine at dinner. I love to use my vouchers for a chai tea latte at the coffee venues (except for branded Starbucks). HINT: on the Anthem, Deck 4, La Patesserie is mobbed in the morning for coffee. However, if you go up one deck to Cafe 270 on Deck 5, they serve the same coffee products, and there are usually very few people in there in the mornings. The chai tea lattes are wonderful, too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted June 10, 2023 #34 Share Posted June 10, 2023 2 hours ago, sowhat said: We sailed on Oasis of the Seas and were invited in the Diamond lounge. No concierge would send out a letter like that, let alone send four extra kids keys to be used for cocktails in the diamond lounge. This sailing was when? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted June 10, 2023 #35 Share Posted June 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, reallyitsmema said: No concierge would send out a letter like that, let alone send four extra kids keys to be used for cocktails in the diamond lounge. This sailing was when? I blanked out the concierge name because of the poor grammar I think the sail date was 12th May 2019 on Oasis of the Seas in the Mediterranean , but I will have find old photos to be completely certain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseguy1016 Posted June 10, 2023 #36 Share Posted June 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, reallyitsmema said: No concierge would send out a letter like that, let alone send four extra kids keys to be used for cocktails in the diamond lounge. This sailing was when? Yeah, I think it's a phoney letter someone wrote to themselves to gain attention. Unfortunately, spelling was not their best subject in school. With the spelling and grammar errors, it's obviously fake. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowhat Posted June 10, 2023 #37 Share Posted June 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, cruiseguy1016 said: Yeah, I think it's a phoney letter someone wrote to themselves to gain attention. Unfortunately, spelling was not their best subject in school. With the spelling and grammar errors, it's obviously fake. Believe what you want. We received the letter from the diamond concierge and the four key cards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted June 10, 2023 #38 Share Posted June 10, 2023 19 hours ago, cinnamon said: Due to being widowed it’s some years since I’ve sailed on Royal. With my late husband we were Diamond Plus status. If a friend or my Goddaughter cruised with me now would she be able to come into the Diamond Plus lounge with me? I can’t find an answer to this on the RCCI website. Thanks for any replies. No since they didn't earn it. The lounge gets crowded as it is. I can't imagine if everyone was allowed to bring someone in. You will get 5 d+ drink vouchers to use in any bar or MDR at anytime since the lounge doesn't have free drinks anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisegirl1 Posted June 10, 2023 #39 Share Posted June 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, sowhat said: Believe what you want. We received the letter from the diamond concierge and the four key cards. Why did they give you a letter? Did he/she see you and say, “hey, would you like access for four others” , or did you ask for a favor. If it was around 2019 then the access was worth a great deal. It was pre daily drinks so 4 people drinking complimentary cocktails for several hours each night. I hope you “thanked” ($$$) him/her appropriately g for putting their job at risk. I stand by my original comment that if you did get access, (and I don’t why you did) best not to boast about it on social media m 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted June 10, 2023 #40 Share Posted June 10, 2023 19 hours ago, HicksRA said: ...Chances are you could swipe your card to enter the Diamond Lounge and your companion could enter with you although it’s technically not allowed. What if they're caught? I'd be so embarrassed since I know it's not allowed. Someone who is d+ can't plead ignorance. Also, do you think its fair to others who have earned it? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted June 10, 2023 #41 Share Posted June 10, 2023 16 hours ago, HicksRA said: I agree. Sometimes there’s someone checking at the door during happy hour, but I’ve never had anyone ask to see my status while in the DL. I have seen this happen a couple of times. We have had ours checked on a ship or two. 15 hours ago, twinmommy08 said: I’m the rebel D+ and took my sister in the lounge with me when she sailed with me. She doesn’t drink and I had the refreshment package. Never had an issue with the server. No one asked, and no one cared. We played cards and had some snacks since we like to eat dinner late. She possibly took up a seat that should have been for someone who earned it. Rebel? I think it's more of me, me, me and the rules don't apply to me. 10 hours ago, crazyank said: It's exactly this kind of abuse of privileges that will eventually cause the loss of the Diamond lounge. Totally agree. It's also adds to the over crowding sometimes. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another_Critic Posted June 10, 2023 #42 Share Posted June 10, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said: No since they didn't earn it. The lounge gets crowded as it is. I can't imagine if everyone was allowed to bring someone in. You will get 5 d+ drink vouchers to use in any bar or MDR at anytime since the lounge doesn't have free drinks anymore. There are lots of people in the DL (w/ free vouchers) that didn't "earn" it. Should all those with inherited status be banned from the DL? P.S. I agree that if your not entitled (via earned or inherited status), you should not tag along to the lounge with another entitled member. Edited June 10, 2023 by Another_Critic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted June 10, 2023 #43 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Just now, Another_Critic said: There are lots of people in the DL (w/ free vouchers) that didn't "earn" it. All those with inherited status. That is one of Royal's rules so that's allowed. Btw, they did earn it because it's allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyank Posted June 10, 2023 #44 Share Posted June 10, 2023 3 hours ago, cruiseguy1016 said: Yeah, I think it's a phoney letter someone wrote to themselves to gain attention. Unfortunately, spelling was not their best subject in school. With the spelling and grammar errors, it's obviously fake. We agree, it's fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loman Posted June 10, 2023 #45 Share Posted June 10, 2023 4 hours ago, seasidemama said: I like the idea of a coffee voucher to be able to use anywhere on the ship - in addition to the drink vouchers in lieu of the coffee machine access.. That would be a very good idea , provided they are unlimited free specialty coffees . Then they could use the diamond lounge space for some revenue generating venue. Maybe another smoke free casino ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiscayneBaby Posted June 11, 2023 #46 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Your travel companion that is in your stateroom and presides over your movement about a ship is considered your travel “guardian”. You may file a well deserved case if they are denied responsibility even temporarily for your movements. Such as the diamond lounge. As your “guardian” they are qualified to your rights on board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyank Posted June 11, 2023 #47 Share Posted June 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BiscayneBaby said: If you have a an accessibility issue recognized internationally, (bahamas, Panama & US) in other words ADA, and your travel partner is your “guardian” they cannot be denied access whether they are Diamond or not. LAW. Nope, ADA does not apply outside the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted June 11, 2023 #48 Share Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, crazyank said: Nope, ADA does not apply outside the USA. I don’t know why someone brought up the ADA. The question was about bringing a friend into the Diamond Lounge . However the ADA does apply to accessibility standards for cruise ships that use US ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted June 11, 2023 #49 Share Posted June 11, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, BiscayneBaby said: Your travel companion that is in your stateroom and presides over your movement about a ship is considered your travel “guardian”. You may file a well deserved case if they are denied responsibility even temporarily for your movements. Such as the diamond lounge. As your “guardian” they are qualified to your rights on board. What you are calling a guardian is called a caregiver. Caregivers are not guaranteed admission to venues and events under the ADA. That is something that a business can consider on a case by case basis. It is called reasonable accommodation. If someone going on a cruise needs a caregiver they would have declare that and the cruise line most likely won’t allow that passenger that needs a caregiver to board. They don’t have to. Edited June 11, 2023 by Charles4515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiscayneBaby Posted June 11, 2023 #50 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Yes my dear traveler, they must respect the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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