Tar Deal Posted October 22, 2009 #1 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Although we are new to Cruise Critic, we are veteran cruisers and have enjoyed the expanded loyalty percs on RCCL and Celebrity. It has been rumored that holders of stock in cruise lines receive even further advantages. Can anyone share thier experiences in this regard or provide a link to any site that explains stockholder privileges? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare printingchick Posted October 22, 2009 #2 Share Posted October 22, 2009 If you own at least 100 shares of Royal Caribbean or Carnival stock, you are entitled to on-board credits applied to your cabin when you cruise. (If you cruise with a group, only the cabins occupied by stockholders earn the OBC.) On Royal Caribbean (including Celebrity), the OBC's are as follows: For sailings of 5 nights or shorter, the OBC is $50 For sailings of 6-9 nights, the OBC is $100 For sailings of 10-13 nights, the OBC is $200 For sailings of 14 nights or longer, the OBC is $250 On Carnival (including Princess, Cunard, Costa and Holland America), the OBC program is similar. For sailings of 6 nights or shorter, the OBC is $50 For sailings of 7-13 nights, the OBC is $100 For sailings of 14 nights or longer, the OBC is $250 The down-side is that these stock-holder benefits, at least on Royal Caribbean, can no longer be combined with benefits such as loyalty status discounts or early-booking (NextCruise) discounts. They can, however, be combined with the Royal Caribbean Credit Card points. I own stock in both companies, but have not cruised with Carnival recently, so I'm not sure about the rules they have on combining benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted October 22, 2009 #3 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I own stock in both companies, but have not cruised with Carnival recently, so I'm not sure about the rules they have on combining benefits. The OBC for owners of CCL stock can be combined with other benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGem Posted October 22, 2009 #4 Share Posted October 22, 2009 You can hold the stock in an IRA or other similar plan and still use the benefit . . . just be sure it is in your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dglass4321 Posted January 20, 2018 #5 Share Posted January 20, 2018 This is an old thread but I thought I'd give it a shot... Does Carnival still offer the OBC to stock holders? I've seen old references to it but the forms people attached all have expiration dates that are long past. I looked at the Carnival site but couldn't find any reference to it. Has anyone used this recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulanis Posted January 20, 2018 #6 Share Posted January 20, 2018 google is your friend carnival shareholder benefits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted January 20, 2018 #7 Share Posted January 20, 2018 This is an old thread but I thought I'd give it a shot... Does Carnival still offer the OBC to stock holders? I've seen old references to it but the forms people attached all have expiration dates that are long past. I looked at the Carnival site but couldn't find any reference to it. Has anyone used this recently? http://www.carnivalcorp.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=140690&p=irol-sharebenefit http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9Mjc0MjIzfENoaWxkSUQ9LTF8VHlwZT0z&t=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted January 20, 2018 #8 Share Posted January 20, 2018 This is an old thread but I thought I'd give it a shot... Does Carnival still offer the OBC to stock holders? I've seen old references to it but the forms people attached all have expiration dates that are long past. I looked at the Carnival site but couldn't find any reference to it. Has anyone used this recently? Yes, I had my shareholder benefit on my P&O xmas cruise, P&O is a Carnival brand. You also get share dividends which for standard rate taxpayers here in the UK are tax free!. Best investment I ever made. http://www.carnivalcorp.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=140690&p=irol-sharebenefit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 21, 2018 #9 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Good for me as well, well and truly worth the investment for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamomo Posted January 21, 2018 #10 Share Posted January 21, 2018 This is an old thread but I thought I'd give it a shot... Does Carnival still offer the OBC to stock holders? I've seen old references to it but the forms people attached all have expiration dates that are long past. I looked at the Carnival site but couldn't find any reference to it. Has anyone used this recently? I cruise only with Princess and use the shareholder benefit every time. I never use a form when requesting the benefit ..... I type up my request, stating personal info, cruise dates and ship, booking number, and a copy of my verification of ownership (with account #s blacked out), and fax it to the CCL fax number, and have never had a problem getting it approved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinfool Posted January 21, 2018 #11 Share Posted January 21, 2018 We were on Princess last week, will be on HAL next week, both have my shareholder benefit credited to my account. I have been using the shareholder benefit since 2004 (approx). The CCL benefit combines with most fares...the exception being if you are a travel agent traveling on travel agent fares. Casino fares seem to be more of a maybe, maybe not situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCC retired Posted January 21, 2018 #12 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Although the Shareholder Benefit OBC is about the same for CCL and RCI , the RCI benefit can not be applied with certain Rates and other OBC's. The CCL benefit can be combined (stacked) with other OBC's such as Book Onboard, Military (PCL & Cunard) , as most all Rates & Sale Promo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 21, 2018 #13 Share Posted January 21, 2018 In addition to covering so many more cruise lines compared to the RCCL ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted January 21, 2018 #14 Share Posted January 21, 2018 There is a huge difference between the benefits you get with "RCL" Stock versus "CCL." In the case of RCL, they cruise lines do everything possible to deny the stockholder credit. Most folks who book these lines will do it with some kind of promotion...and RCI/Celebrity will usually deny any stockholder credit...telling you that "its not combinable with your promotion, fare, etc." But with CCL stock there is an entirely different attitude. Cruise on any of their lines and you will most likely get your stockholder credit.....despite booking promos, special fares, getting other credits, etc. To use an industry term, CCL will usually let you "stack" credits versus RCIs policy of generally not allowing the stacking of credits. "Stacking" simply means you can get multiple credits for a single voyage. For example, when we cruise on Princess we will always get my military credit (available to most veterans who register), stockholder credit, and other OBCs. On a few Princess cruises we have had so much OBC...that Princess sent us a check after the cruise for our remaining credits. On one cruise we had nearly $2000 of OBC We do not see any justification for any longer purchasing RCL stock...if your reason is to get onboard credits. A good friend of mine once said that if you do receive RCL stockholder credit it means you simply paid too much for your cruise (because you missed out on promotions and other good deals). Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 22, 2018 #15 Share Posted January 22, 2018 There is a huge difference between the benefits you get with "RCL" Stock versus "CCL." In the case of RCL, they cruise lines do everything possible to deny the stockholder credit. Most folks who book these lines will do it with some kind of promotion...and RCI/Celebrity will usually deny any stockholder credit...telling you that "its not combinable with your promotion, fare, etc." But with CCL stock there is an entirely different attitude. Cruise on any of their lines and you will most likely get your stockholder credit.....despite booking promos, special fares, getting other credits, etc. To use an industry term, CCL will usually let you "stack" credits versus RCIs policy of generally not allowing the stacking of credits. "Stacking" simply means you can get multiple credits for a single voyage. For example, when we cruise on Princess we will always get my military credit (available to most veterans who register), stockholder credit, and other OBCs. On a few Princess cruises we have had so much OBC...that Princess sent us a check after the cruise for our remaining credits. On one cruise we had nearly $2000 of OBC We do not see any justification for any longer purchasing RCL stock...if your reason is to get onboard credits. A good friend of mine once said that if you do receive RCL stockholder credit it means you simply paid too much for your cruise (because you missed out on promotions and other good deals). Hank Agreed, you want their stock then buy it as an investment and don't think the shareholder OBC benefit is assured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted January 22, 2018 #16 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Yes there are some benefits to be had. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 22, 2018 #17 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Yes there are some benefits to be had. Keith There sure is, all you need is 100 shares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted January 22, 2018 #18 Share Posted January 22, 2018 But boy Carnival have gone up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 22, 2018 #19 Share Posted January 22, 2018 But boy Carnival have gone up. Nearly doubled since we bought them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 22, 2018 #20 Share Posted January 22, 2018 We bought the Carnival stock many, many years ago when it was around $12 a share. Some years we got the shipboard credit 5 times!! Very well worth the investment to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamchops Posted January 22, 2018 #21 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I had both RCI and carnival stock when it was in the $30 range but sold them when they doubled. I wouldn’t consider them at it’s current price for the benefits. A drop of a couple of dollars will wipe out any benefits. Buy it if you believe in the companys potential but not for the benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted January 22, 2018 #22 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I had both RCI and carnival stock when it was in the $30 range but sold them when they doubled. I wouldn’t consider them at it’s current price for the benefits. A drop of a couple of dollars will wipe out any benefits. Buy it if you believe in the companys potential but not for the benefits. I think this would depend on how often one cruises. We currently receive $500 - $1000 a year for our CCL stockholder benefit. On average this is better than a 10% annual return (just for the Stockholder Credit). In our case we paid about $26 a share for that CCL stock (many years ago) and have recovered our initial investment many times over just from OBCs. And then consider our dividend yield (currently at about 2.6%) based on our actual cost (of the stock) is about 7% a year.,,,,and our stock is worth about 300% of what we originally paid. Whether it will turn out to be such a good investment for those now jumping-in...only time will tell. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted January 22, 2018 #23 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I think this would depend on how often one cruises. We currently receive $500 - $1000 a year for our CCL stockholder benefit. On average this is better than a 10% annual return (just for the Stockholder Credit). In our case we paid about $26 a share for that CCL stock (many years ago) and have recovered our initial investment many times over just from OBCs. And then consider our dividend yield (currently at about 2.6%) based on our actual cost (of the stock) is about 7% a year.,,,,and our stock is worth about 300% of what we originally paid. Whether it will turn out to be such a good investment for those now jumping-in...only time will tell. Hank Agree that for some it is really worth it, for others not so much. As an investment the same rules apply. We also had a double affect of having our AUD drop (30%) as well as the stock increasing (80%) which means the returns and capital gains from when we bought have both increased. In the meantime the OBC for when we cruise has yielded some extra returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruz-OR Posted January 22, 2018 #24 Share Posted January 22, 2018 This is an old thread but I thought I'd give it a shot... Does Carnival still offer the OBC to stock holders? But boy Carnival have gone up. This may be a 2009 thread but I wish I could buy more of this stock at 2009 prices. Thank you Carnival for this great benefit and for a well run company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwatr Posted January 22, 2018 #25 Share Posted January 22, 2018 With dividend reinvestment and stock price appreciation my investment in CCL stock in 2013 has just about doubled in value. So the $100-400 in onboard credit we get annually is just a nice added benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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