Merion_Mom Posted May 21, 2016 #176 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Carol, these look like real O3b VOOM numbers. Enchantment, right? Did you purchase surf only or surf & stream? I didn't notice. :o Last night in the Schooner Bar I couldn't even get the app to open. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesthebeach2 Posted May 21, 2016 #177 Share Posted May 21, 2016 (edited) Brillance surf & stream in port Venice today. Ping 711. Download 1.67. Upload 1.27. This is the fastest so far. I don't no how to take picture. So far no refunds. Very unhappy with Internet. Cruise is great. It's been hard to get on except today because most people are off ship. That's disappointing. We are taking that same cruise and we pre purchased the Internet. Please keep posting your speeds. Someone posted on thes boards a site that checks your IP address to see if you have true VOOM. The site is http://whatismyipaddress.com. Can you try that and post the results? I may cancel and just use my free data at ports. We have T-Mobile and it includes data overseas. Edited May 21, 2016 by lovesthebeach2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovcruzing Posted May 22, 2016 #178 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Brilliance speed today Zadar docked. Ping 719 download .86. Upload .06 The IP address is 72.2.237.12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 22, 2016 #179 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Brilliance speed today Zadar docked. Ping 719 download .86. Upload .06 The IP address is 72.2.237.12 Which package do you have? Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovcruzing Posted May 22, 2016 #180 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Surf & Stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 22, 2016 #181 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Surf & Stream Wow, not very good numbers for stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesthebeach2 Posted May 22, 2016 #182 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Brilliance speed today Zadar docked. Ping 719 download .86. Upload .06 The IP address is 72.2.237.12 Bob how will we know if this is VOOM? Not just by the IP address right? It needs to say O3B or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 22, 2016 #183 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Bob how will we know if this is VOOM? Not just by the IP address right? It needs to say O3B or something? Yes, if the IP is listed as O3b, than it's the fast low earth orbit system. Also, ping times around 200ms are another indication of the faster system. Note also that I've seen some faster download speeds on the higher satellites too. I don't know how they are doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 22, 2016 #184 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I asked a few questions of an IT guy on board the Rhapsody. Even the lower level guys are treating all Internet on board as being VOOM but he did know that the ship does not have O3B. Apparenttly there is supposed to be some speed difference between SURF and STREAM on ships without O3B Internet - controlled from Miami. From reports so far it seems that the limit is about .5MBs down for SURF and maybe about 2-3MBs for STREAM. But, without O3B, regardless of which package you get you will be stuck with 700ms (or worse) ping times (which impacts performance). So , it seems like until all ships get a make over like the Freedom, you are going to get some "improved" down speed with STREAM (over SURF) but overall a somewhat sucky experience (compared to O3B). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotswold Eagle Posted May 22, 2016 #185 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Yes, if the IP is listed as O3b, than it's the fast low earth orbit system. Also, ping times around 200ms are another indication of the faster system. Note also that I've seen some faster download speeds on the higher satellites too. I don't know how they are doing that. O3b does not have a low earth orbit offering - their birds are in medium earth orbit. As far as I know, there is no LEO component to RCI's consumer internet service, VOOM. It's possible they have some capacity for operational purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 22, 2016 #186 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Note also that I've seen some faster download speeds on the higher satellites too. I don't know how they are doing that. I think some of the capacity was always there, now they are sharing it with the customer under the guise of STREAM. Also, like on Celebrity ships, some more could be squeezed out of existing high orbit connections. But, they can't get around the laws of physics- the relay time to the high orbit sats takes time which will show up in overall Internet performance. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 22, 2016 #187 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) O3b does not have a low earth orbit offering - their birds are in medium earth orbit. As far as I know, there is no LEO component to RCI's consumer internet service, VOOM. It's possible they have some capacity for operational purposes. You're correct of course, should have said lowER.:) Edited May 22, 2016 by clarea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare APDMOM Posted May 22, 2016 #188 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Just a quick, final report back from Allure: Surf only package Internet was very consistent and reliable, except on the last sea day when we got kicked off repeatedly. We were able to Skype every day, with great quality. We were able to watch Facebook video clips and short commercials on apps, most days. For us, the surf package on Allure ($63.63 on promo) was well worth it, as we enjoyed Skype with family. Hope this helps others make the decision whether they need surf or stream package. :) Off to do the laundry :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted May 22, 2016 #189 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Carol, these look like real O3b VOOM numbers. Enchantment, right? Did you purchase surf only or surf & stream? Enchantment. Surf & Stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 23, 2016 #190 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Enchantment. Surf & Stream. Are they giving Surf & Stream to Pinnacle for free now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted May 23, 2016 #191 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Harmony voom somewhere in the English Channel Sent from my iPhone 6s using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 23, 2016 #192 Share Posted May 23, 2016 I assume that's throttled SURF. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 23, 2016 #193 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Those 0.5 and 0.25 numbers are getting consistent for surf only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXfisherman Posted May 23, 2016 #194 Share Posted May 23, 2016 First post on these boards, although longtime reader (it is nice to be able to get actual info straight from people on a ship instead of a RC rep who may or may not know what they are talking about). From Liberty the past few days (surf & stream package was purchased, 59 speed tests were completed all over the ship, from 5/20/16 - 5/22/16)... Average download: 0.79 mb/s Average upload: 0.24 mb/s Average latency: 797 ms 51 of the tests had download speeds of <1 mb/s (those 51 had an average download speed of 0.34 mb/s). The download speed of the other 8 tests ranged from 3.19 - 4.1 mb/s. The upload speed for all 59 tests ranged from 0.08 - 0.38 mb/s. The latency for all 59 tests ranged from 612 - 1246 ms. Before you ask, most of the 8 faster tests came from close to (or in) various rooms, however some of the slower tests came from those exact same locations, so there did not appear to be a "fast" area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted May 23, 2016 #195 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Welcome to CC and thank you for that report. It seems to reinforce what I was told and what others are reporting - SURF is limited to .5MBs download speed while STREAM can provide up to about 4MB down in the right conditions. But in all cases where there's no O3B, the ping times of 600ms or worse will make using any device sluggish. One direct result of the high ping times is inability to make a reliable WiFi call - on land a good connection (ping less than 100 ms) with just .2 or .3 MBs download speed would be enough to make a call - I was getting pretty consistent .5MB speed tests on the ship but with 700ms pings, WiFi calls just could not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msliz Posted May 31, 2016 #196 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Freedom Ping 233 Download 5.49 Upload 1.75 Highest download 7.45 Highest upload 3.00 Ping range 200 to 239 Between coco cay and st Thomas Surf & stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucymorgan Posted May 31, 2016 #197 Share Posted May 31, 2016 +1 AKA the speed of light problem. In Australia (and US) a company with a poorly designed app will suffer from this because there is a limit to how fast information can transmit over long distances. An office in Perth Australia is so far away from Sydney that although it is not noticeable for one transmission, if the application is poorly designed and needs multiple transactions before responding to the user, these multiply and become obvious to the user. Countries that are not geographically wide (or long) don't have this problem when operating systems within country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucymorgan Posted May 31, 2016 #198 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) But, they can't get around the laws of physics- the relay time to the high orbit sats takes time which will show up in overall Internet performance. +1 AKA the speed of light problem. In Australia (and US) a company with a poorly designed app will suffer from this because there is a limit to how fast information can transmit. An office in Perth Australia is so far away from Sydney that although it is not noticeable for one transmission, if the application is poorly designed and needs multiple transactions before responding to the user, these multiply and become obvious to the user. Countries that are not geographically wide (or long) don't have this problem when operating systems within country. Edited May 31, 2016 by lucymorgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted May 31, 2016 #199 Share Posted May 31, 2016 FreedomPing 233 Download 5.49 Upload 1.75 Highest download 7.45 Highest upload 3.00 Ping range 200 to 239 Between coco cay and st Thomas Surf & stream Thank-you, looks like Freedom has real VOOM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUN33 Posted May 31, 2016 #200 Share Posted May 31, 2016 VOOM on NAV is more like SPUTTER Ping 639 Down .27 Up .08 If we were paying for this I would insist on a refund. We are off the coast of Norway now, but it been like this in UK, France, Spain and for our entire TA. Streaming is only possible with Netflix (using their downgraded video quality). Any real streaming is out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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