declansdad Posted July 18, 2018 #1 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Wonder what this was all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted July 18, 2018 #2 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Get a few thousand people together n a coined space, booze them up and there are sure to be the odd fight. I’m actually surprised that there aren’t more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingNole Posted July 18, 2018 #3 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Wonder what this was all about? It's all about the "clientele" on the ship. Just ask CCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flacousa Posted July 18, 2018 #4 Share Posted July 18, 2018 It's all about the "clientele" on the ship. Just ask CCL. Fights around the pool are predictable, booze, skympy clothing, male testosterone, we had one of those in the NCL Sun around the pool area in 2014, December 2016 CCL Victory, fistfight in main dining room among members of one table during early dining seating. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUSIE MAN Posted July 18, 2018 #5 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Get a few thousand people together n a coined space, booze them up and there are sure to be the odd fight. I’m actually surprised that there aren’t more. I think it has a lot to do with the drink packages [emoji482][emoji483]🥂[emoji898] Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babygirl08 Posted July 18, 2018 #6 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I think it has a lot to do with the drink packages [emoji482][emoji483]🥂[emoji898] Sent from my iPad using Forums Nope. I was on that same cruise with 26 family and friends who all had the drink package. Somehow we managed to get in zero fights. It's the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingNole Posted July 18, 2018 #7 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Fights around the pool are predictable, booze, skympy clothing, male testosterone, we had one of those in the NCL Sun around the pool area in 2014, December 2016 CCL Victory, fistfight in main dining room among members of one table during early dining seating. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk So in other words...the "clientele" on board. I've been on many cruises with people drinking heavily and it's nothing but good times and making new friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistletoe76 Posted July 18, 2018 #8 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Wow. That was scary. I hope everyone was okay. Sent from my SM-G950U using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styme123 Posted July 18, 2018 #9 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Wow that 's scary. I would have thought that security would have been more involved a lot faster to stop things. I'm sailing on Escape in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted July 18, 2018 #10 Share Posted July 18, 2018 It's the person. Term used loosely. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitten112 Posted July 18, 2018 #11 Share Posted July 18, 2018 It is scary to see that security was scared to get their shoes wet and break up the fight. I am going on the Escape in October and watching this video actually makes me worried for my safety on the ship. I hope Norwegian reviews this video and retrains their staff to deal with this type of situation. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love my butler Posted July 18, 2018 #12 Share Posted July 18, 2018 It is scary to see that security was scared to get their shoes wet and break up the fight. I am going on the Escape in October and watching this video actually makes me worried for my safety on the ship. I hope Norwegian reviews this video and retrains their staff to deal with this type of situation. You give NCL security way too much credit. They are great at finding and taking your unauthorized beverages and such when you board but they have very little experience or training in actual physical confrontations. They do not carry guns and a good many of them are out of shape. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what they try to do, but in the end most of them are just as afraid as the average person when confronting a combative person or persons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medtech2 Posted July 18, 2018 #13 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Security has probably been told not to engage in certain situations. A slippery surface coupled with water and jutting edges could be deadly. Get a couple idiots fighting and add security to the fray could lead to worse outcomes. Instead of some moron yelling “break up the GD fight” how about everyone clearing the area? Instead of yelling “a**hole” in unison how about, idk, leaving the area? I saw a kid and mom walking along with ice cream. Hey mom, take your child and leave the area. If security was armed with sticks and beat the people senseless would that be good? I think not. It has little to do with “clientele” and everything to do with the hot sun and possibly drinking. We really don’t know if and how much was drunk. We don’t know what started it. But we do know that every moron who stuck around to watch, egg on, whip out a cell phone to record, and did not leave the area contributed to the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Laszlo Posted July 18, 2018 #14 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I would have thought that security would have been more involved a lot faster to stop things. I'm sailing on Escape in a few weeks. Not really, NCL at the most has one maybe two dozen security people. Let the idiots beat themselves senseless, then go in a clean it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styme123 Posted July 18, 2018 #15 Share Posted July 18, 2018 You give NCL security way too much credit. They are great at finding and taking your unauthorized beverages and such when you board but they have very little experience or training in actual physical confrontations. They do not carry guns and a good many of them are out of shape. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what they try to do, but in the end most of them are just as afraid as the average person when confronting a combative person or persons. Maybe they need to rethink/revamp their security system, If they don't have staff that are properly trained for all types of situations that could happen on a cruise ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Laszlo Posted July 18, 2018 #16 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Maybe they need to rethink/revamp their security system, If they don't have staff that are properly trained for all types of situations that could happen on a cruise ship. I think your pointing fingers at the wrong people. Maybe some people shouldn't drink or cruise, you can't fix stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted July 18, 2018 #17 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Fights happen anywhere and at any time among all walks of life or shall I say, "clientele". I think its really pathetic, and a testament to the times, that someone thought it appropriate to film and then post to Youtube...talk about encouraging bad behavior. CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Peachypooh Posted July 18, 2018 #18 Share Posted July 18, 2018 The tag line said Royal Navy Dockyard in Bermuda. Why were there so many people onboard if they were docked? That said, there have been a fight or two I witnessed on NCL ships but it was mostly just words and finger pointing. Alcohol, crowded conditions and the stress of vacation (yes there is stress on vacation sometimes) are possible explanations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted July 18, 2018 #19 Share Posted July 18, 2018 What a bunch of emotionally stunted trashy humans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinIllinois Posted July 18, 2018 #20 Share Posted July 18, 2018 And this, my friends, is what happens when you take drink straws away. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott6428 Posted July 18, 2018 #21 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Thankfully I've never seen this behavior in all my cruises. I can understand unarmed "security" not wanting to get injured themselves or worse for the cruise line hurt a passenger while 'breaking up a fight'. fights can start anywhere yes but then the police come and someone gets arrested and then there's consequences, at sea that seems rather murky. Ejection from the ship seems the worst you can get, then there's jurisdiction issues etc.... I would be ok with a few large X cops on board and visible, with a taser, you're less likely to start something if you feel there's an actual consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Laszlo Posted July 18, 2018 #22 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Fights happen anywhere and at any time among all walks of life or shall I say, "clientele". I think its really pathetic, and a testament to the times, that someone thought it appropriate to film and then post to Youtube...talk about encouraging bad behavior.CM When my wife and I sailed the Escape a few years ago in February their was a huge fight while the ship was still docked in Miami. It was a large wedding party. most of whom were kicked off the ship before the cruise even started Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole1975 Posted July 18, 2018 #23 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Thankfully I've never seen this behavior in all my cruises. I can understand unarmed "security" not wanting to get injured themselves or worse for the cruise line hurt a passenger while 'breaking up a fight'. fights can start anywhere yes but then the police come and someone gets arrested and then there's consequences, at sea that seems rather murky. Ejection from the ship seems the worst you can get, then there's jurisdiction issues etc.... I would be ok with a few large X cops on board and visible, with a taser, you're less likely to start something if you feel there's an actual consequence. I am sure alcohol was involved. There is a jail on the ship. Perhaps a few hours in the "jail" or "brig" to sober up would be a good consequence. I worked in a psychiatric hospital for many years. We put our staff thru Physical Crisis Intervention training yearly. It can be very dangerous to break up a fight both for the staff and the patients. Have no idea what kind of training NCL security go thru. I think those morons should be responsible for their own behavior and suffer the consequences. If they get hurt, oh well, they should not have been fighting. As for the people who now no longer feel safe, just don't drink too much and hang around the pool. You will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallnthensome Posted July 18, 2018 #24 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Which sailing was this? Out of what port and to where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted July 18, 2018 #25 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I’m not signing in to you tube to watch a video? Is that a thing? I Agree with a few others, just leave the area, let them be fools by themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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