Rare jedi bobs Posted August 21, 2018 #1 Share Posted August 21, 2018 CARNIVAL CRUISE LINE AND CANAVERAL PORT AUTHORITY REACH AGREEMENT ON STATE-OF-THE-ART CRUISE TERMINAL TO ACCOMMODATE PLANS FOR NEW 180,000-TON CRUISE SHIP’S ARRIVAL Largest Carnival Cruise Line Ship Ever Constructed, First in North America to be Powered by Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG) PORT CANAVERAL, FLA. (Aug. 21, 2018) – Carnival Cruise Line, the world’s largest cruise operator, has reached an agreement in principle with the Canaveral Port Authority on a new state-of-the-art terminal able to accommodate its new 180,000-ton ship, the largest ever constructed for the line, set to debut in 2020. The terms of the agreement are expected to be included on the agenda of the Canaveral Port Authority Board of Commissioners’ meeting on Wednesday, Aug. 29, 2018. If approved, the agreement will clear the way for Carnival Cruise Line’s plans to homeport the as-yet-unnamed 5,286-lower berth ship at Port Canaveral, further bolstering the line’s position as the port’s number one cruise operator. The vessel will offer an array of groundbreaking, never-before-seen features and attractions while also being the first North American-based cruise ship to be powered by Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG), part of Carnival Corporation’s “green cruising” design platform. “We are very excited about the prospects of homeporting our largest ship at Port Canaveral, a valued business partner for more than 25 years,” said Christine Duffy, president of Carnival Cruise Line. “Easily accessible from all over the southeast with excellent facilities and friendly staff, Port Canaveral is one of our most popular and fastest-growing homeports. This fantastic new ship, coupled with our future plans for Port Canaveral, will provide guests with an unparalleled seagoing vacation experience from the minute they arrive. ” “The Port and Carnival Cruise Line have worked closely for decades building a successful partnership together. We are proud of our partners at Carnival and eager to begin this new chapter in our business relationship,” said Canaveral Port Authority Port Director and CEO Capt. John Murray. “Carnival’s commitment to Port Canaveral demonstrates their confidence in our ability to support one of the world’s most successful cruise brands. We’re excited and looking forward to having their largest and newest class of ship homeported here.” Construction of the 180,000-ton cruise ship is scheduled to begin in November 2018 with the official steel-cutting ceremony at the Meyer-Werft shipyard in Turku, Finland. Further ship details, along with itineraries from Port Canaveral, are expected to be announced in 2019. The decision to base the new ship on the Space Coast continues a decades-long relationship and reinforces Carnival Cruise Line’s position as Port Canaveral’s number one cruise operator. The line currently has three year-round ships based in Port Canaveral carrying upwards of 650,000 passengers a year. In October, Carnival Cruise Line will also reposition the newer Carnival Breeze to homeport at Port Canaveral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzincat50 Posted August 21, 2018 #2 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Is this the Panorama? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyFan33579 Posted August 21, 2018 #3 Share Posted August 21, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzincat50 Posted August 21, 2018 #4 Share Posted August 21, 2018 No. I looked it up and found the answer. The Panorama is a Vista class ship. I have to wonder, are there very many ships at sea that are powered by LNG, other than, possibly, LNG tankers themselves? I wonder about the safety aspect. Especially with inconsiderate guests flicking lit cigarettes over the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pirate4me2 Posted August 21, 2018 #5 Share Posted August 21, 2018 This is awesome news! We love Port Canaveral, it’s an easy 8 hour drive for us. We will be booking a cruise on this ship for sure! Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted August 21, 2018 #6 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I looked it up and found the answer. The Panorama is a Vista class ship. I have to wonder, are there very many ships at sea that are powered by LNG, other than, possibly, LNG tankers themselves? I wonder about the safety aspect. Especially with inconsiderate guests flicking lit cigarettes over the side. Seems to be the wave of the future but this might be one very crowded ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted August 21, 2018 #7 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I looked it up and found the answer. The Panorama is a Vista class ship. I have to wonder, are there very many ships at sea that are powered by LNG, other than, possibly, LNG tankers themselves? I wonder about the safety aspect. Especially with inconsiderate guests flicking lit cigarettes over the side. LNG is currently being discussed on the Ask a Cruise Question forum here: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=56842253#post56842253 and post #5 has your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted August 21, 2018 #8 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Here is a rendering of the new ship that i found on facebook and various news releases: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 21, 2018 #9 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I looked it up and found the answer. The Panorama is a Vista class ship. I have to wonder, are there very many ships at sea that are powered by LNG, other than, possibly, LNG tankers themselves? I wonder about the safety aspect. Especially with inconsiderate guests flicking lit cigarettes over the side. Since Sparks has linked to my responses on the other thread, I'll just add that currently there are about 60 vessels worldwide that are powered by LNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman0711 Posted August 21, 2018 #10 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Glad to hear this! This is our closest port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted August 21, 2018 #11 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Unless the ship is larger than the Oasis class, the passenger count will make it one crowded vessel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ting Posted August 21, 2018 #12 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Since Sparks has linked to my responses on the other thread, I'll just add that currently there are about 60 vessels worldwide that are powered by LNG. Thats odd, according to LNG world news VesselsValue data says that the total global LNG fleet currently stands at 600 vesselsout of which 499 ships are in service, and 101 ships are on order.Apr 26, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgiafan Posted August 21, 2018 #13 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I knew this has been rumored for a while and extremely excited for this as it will allow me (and many others) a chance to drive instead of fly as it’s about 4 hours closer then Miami Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ting Posted August 21, 2018 #14 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Here is a rendering of the new ship that i found on facebook and various news releases: That carnival smoke stack is ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted August 21, 2018 #15 Share Posted August 21, 2018 That carnival smoke stack is ugly. LOL, that's like walking into a biker bar and shouting "Harley's suck".:') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 21, 2018 #16 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I've never seen an estimate of 600 LNG vessels. LNG World Shipping lists just over 200 LNG vessels, of which half are LNG carriers, and these are a special subset, since they don't "bunker" LNG fuel (which is the major problem with powering ships with LNG), they just burn their cargo. Almost every source breaks these LNG carriers out for specific mention when talking about fleet size, since they've been around for decades, and as noted just burn the cargo. Then there are the 40 or so offshore supply vessels, ferries, and harbor dredges. That leaves about 60 ocean going vessels that use LNG as fuel. SEA LNG also comes nowhere near 600 vessels, but your source may include vessels less than 50 gt, which are generally not included in worldwide fleet totals. The first non-LNG carrier that burned LNG entered the fleet in 2000. And, yes, there are over a hundred LNG vessels on order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SashaC Posted August 21, 2018 #17 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Unless the ship is larger than the Oasis class, the passenger count will make it one crowded vessel. She’s going to be smaller than RCI’s Oasis class, at only 180,000 GT. For comparison, Symphony of the Seas is over 228,000 GT. Curious to see how this will pan out. Seems like it could be unpleasantly crowded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinfool Posted August 22, 2018 #18 Share Posted August 22, 2018 So...will a huge new LNG facility be built (rather quickly) at Port Canaveral or will there be an endless stream of LNG barges plying the waters between PC and a yet to be named LNG facility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruisegirl6 Posted August 22, 2018 #19 Share Posted August 22, 2018 This is great news as we love Port Canaveral its just a 2 1/2 drive time for us. I love that ship I be on that for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ting Posted August 22, 2018 #20 Share Posted August 22, 2018 I've never seen an estimate of 600 LNG vessels. LNG World Shipping lists just over 200 LNG vessels, of which half are LNG carriers, and these are a special subset, since they don't "bunker" LNG fuel (which is the major problem with powering ships with LNG), they just burn their cargo. Almost every source breaks these LNG carriers out for specific mention when talking about fleet size, since they've been around for decades, and as noted just burn the cargo. Then there are the 40 or so offshore supply vessels, ferries, and harbor dredges. That leaves about 60 ocean going vessels that use LNG as fuel. SEA LNG also comes nowhere near 600 vessels, but your source may include vessels less than 50 gt, which are generally not included in worldwide fleet totals. The first non-LNG carrier that burned LNG entered the fleet in 2000. And, yes, there are over a hundred LNG vessels on order. Maybe you should call them up and tell them their numbers are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Ting Posted August 22, 2018 #21 Share Posted August 22, 2018 lol, that's like walking into a biker bar and shouting "harley's suck".:') Funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmetto Pilot Posted August 22, 2018 #22 Share Posted August 22, 2018 Too small of a ship and too many people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matymil Posted August 22, 2018 #23 Share Posted August 22, 2018 This is awesome news. Port Canaveral is my fav terminal to leave out of. It is super easy to get to plus, the people are very friendly and everything was very organized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomhower Posted August 22, 2018 #24 Share Posted August 22, 2018 She’s going to be smaller than RCI’s Oasis class, at only 180,000 GT. For comparison, Symphony of the Seas is over 228,000 GT. Curious to see how this will pan out. Seems like it could be unpleasantly crowded. While a good way to judge, we need to know the length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidecat Posted August 22, 2018 #25 Share Posted August 22, 2018 There also aren’t going to be very many tall, open spaces like there are on RCI’s Oasis class or MSC’s Meraviglia class. The long promenades with high ceilings have a high cubic (not square) footage that drives up the gross tonnage, but you obviously can’t walk ten feet off the ground. Even something like the traditional tall atrium produces a lot of inaccessible space - great for glass elevators and balloon drops, but not particularly efficient. If this rendering is correct, this ship won’t have a “Skydome” or “Four Elements” type space that functions as a covered Lido by day and an entertainment space by night. There may still be nighttime top deck entertainment (like Princess), but it would be different than what AIDA and P&O are getting. Sent from my eye phone using a three legged yak FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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