So it all begins again.

[megsie]

Majestic Princess arriving this morning.

[GUT2407]

Yep, new season kicks off.

[erewhon]

Thanks for posting the photo, will be a busy cruise season.

[The_Big_M]

Great view from Quay west!

[Dobby_The_Ship_Elf]

and it is raining in Sydney, who would have thunk it .....

 

😎

 

[Hunter69]

Yeah; Plus she's leaving later then normal after 6:30, Tonight so the TA's & others at The Carnival Corp party at Contemporary Art Museum can see-it. Big piss-up for Princess, Carnival &  P&O... Pity the shocking weather...Lol

 

[MicCanberra]

13 hours ago, megsie said:

Majestic Princess arriving this morning.

woohoo. Great pic.

[Toryhere]

I watched it sail out down the harbour and out of the Heads from my window. What an awful night for a sail away party.

[MicCanberra]

1 hour ago, Toryhere said:

I watched it sail out down the harbour and out of the Heads from my window. What an awful night for a sail away party.

Not great at all.

[boeckli]

The late departure was due to a suitable pilot not  being available any earlier. Pacific Explorer also left quite late (after 6pm).

Majestic had two tugs attached due to the high winds. A fairly rough ride over night ...

[GUT2407]

Sorry folks but I hope it keeps raining for a week or more, then a week of sun to try things out a bit then more rain.

[Russell21]

2 hours ago, GUT2407 said:

Sorry folks but I hope it keeps raining for a week or more, then a week of sun to try things out a bit then more rain.

I'll second that.

[Kiwi Kruzer]

1 hour ago, Russell21 said:

I'll second that.

 

I am sure any rain would have been more than welcome .  I trust some fell a bit further inland as well .

[boeckli]

I am onboard Majestic and the officer of the watch just advised that we were lucky to depart last night as Sydney port was closed right after we left. 

Apparently we had 5 meter seas overnight with 65 knot winds  - no wonder it felt a tad rough ...

Quite pleasant now, sun is trying between showers, fairly smooth seas.

[GUT2407]

3 hours ago, Kiwi Kruzer said:

 

I am sure any rain would have been more than welcome .  I trust some fell a bit further inland as well .

Unfortunately didn’t go very far inland, but some got a bit of relief. Pity the powers that be won’t bite the bullet and enlarge, or build more, dams.

[MicCanberra]

5 hours ago, Kiwi Kruzer said:

 

I am sure any rain would have been more than welcome .  I trust some fell a bit further inland as well .

We had some nice rain here but then it started snowing, best snowfall here for many a year.

[MicCanberra]

1 hour ago, GUT2407 said:

Unfortunately didn’t go very far inland, but some got a bit of relief. Pity the powers that be won’t bite the bullet and enlarge, or build more, dams.

Dams are only as good as the rain they can catch. If there is no rain, not much point. We need some pipelines out to fill them.

[Elorac123]

1 hour ago, MicCanberra said:

Dams are only as good as the rain they can catch. If there is no rain, not much point. We need some pipelines out to fill them.

Pipelines are all that is needed, been saying it for years

Cheers Carole

[GUT2407]

13 hours ago, MicCanberra said:

Dams are only as good as the rain they can catch. If there is no rain, not much point. We need some pipelines out to fill them.

But if the enlarge dam capacity there will be more to fall back on when we get dry spells.

 

I agree with pipelines but we need capacity to store it once it is piped in.

 

At a rough guess our population has doubled since the country last built a new dam. That means during dry spells the supply only lasts half as long.

[MicCanberra]

36 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

But if the enlarge dam capacity there will be more to fall back on when we get dry spells.

 

I agree with pipelines but we need capacity to store it once it is piped in.

 

At a rough guess our population has doubled since the country last built a new dam. That means during dry spells the supply only lasts half as long.

I wasn't against the dams, just that if there were pipelines as well, we could pump the water from an area that is flooding to one that is in drought. It would require a very large network and unfortunately, is only a pipe dream at this stage.

[gbenjo]

13 hours ago, Elorac123 said:

Pipelines are all that is needed, been saying it for years

Cheers Carole

It beggars belief that the Pollies and powers that be just refuse to build dams and also water pipelines from the NT. It is a win/win situation with the jobs it would provide, the boost to  the economy ( providing they use Aust companies and products) and then the farmers get the water they need. Etc etc  Who  cares about a few whinging greenies.get on with it before it's too late. 😡😡😡

[GUT2407]

2 hours ago, gbenjo said:

It beggars belief that the Pollies and powers that be just refuse to build dams and also water pipelines from the NT. It is a win/win situation with the jobs it would provide, the boost to  the economy ( providing they use Aust companies and products) and then the farmers get the water they need. Etc etc  Who  cares about a few whinging greenies.get on with it before it's too late. 😡😡😡

Pollies and PTB do anything that doesn’t benefit them???😳😱🤓🤪

[SinbadThePorter]

3 hours ago, gbenjo said:

It beggars belief that the Pollies and powers that be just refuse to build dams and also water pipelines from the NT.

 

Unfortunately, it's not downhill. Pumping water thousands of kilometers is no easy thing. To pump enough water in a drought like this you would probably need a fair proportion of the existing electricity generating capacity of the entire country.

 

There are two short term solutions.

 

First, in the cities establish proper water recycling and conservation practices.

Second, in the bush don't suck the rivers and aquifers dry to irrigate wetland crops in semi-desert.

 

In the long term inland Australia is in a process of desertification. There will be less and less water to go around. At the moment the distribution of available water is particularly perverse for political reasons and small farms and towns are suffering for it. The only real solution is to treat the land like desert not like farm land.

 

The problem with building more dams in the south is that the only suitable places left are in national parks. That's aside from the fact that in a serious drought, no matter how many dams you have, they all dry up. Twelve dams at 1% capacity are not much more use than six dams at 1% capacity.

 

Our descendants are probably going to be amazed at some of the things we got up to. For example, I suspect one of those things will be that we washed our cars with drinking water. 😕

Edited September 19, 2019 by SinbadThePorter

[The_Big_M]

5 hours ago, gbenjo said:

It beggars belief that the Pollies and powers that be just refuse to build dams and also water pipelines from the NT. It is a win/win situation with the jobs it would provide, the boost to  the economy ( providing they use Aust companies and products) and then the farmers get the water they need. Etc etc  Who  cares about a few whinging greenies.get on with it before it's too late. 😡😡😡

 

Unfortunately the issue is more about sustainable practice.

 

It's a similar argument about building more roads before it's too late. But then there's more congestion and things just get progressively worse. Building band aids that make people think things can keep going as they have been just encourages people to keep going as they have been - when it aint sustainable.

[MicCanberra]

6 hours ago, SinbadThePorter said:

 

Unfortunately, it's not downhill. Pumping water thousands of kilometers is no easy thing. To pump enough water in a drought like this you would probably need a fair proportion of the existing electricity generating capacity of the entire country.

 

There are two short term solutions.

 

First, in the cities establish proper water recycling and conservation practices.

Second, in the bush don't suck the rivers and aquifers dry to irrigate wetland crops in semi-desert.

 

In the long term inland Australia is in a process of desertification. There will be less and less water to go around. At the moment the distribution of available water is particularly perverse for political reasons and small farms and towns are suffering for it. The only real solution is to treat the land like desert not like farm land.

 

The problem with building more dams in the south is that the only suitable places left are in national parks. That's aside from the fact that in a serious drought, no matter how many dams you have, they all dry up. Twelve dams at 1% capacity are not much more use than six dams at 1% capacity.

 

Our descendants are probably going to be amazed at some of the things we got up to. For example, I suspect one of those things will be that we washed our cars with drinking water. 😕

Great observations.