Bootstrap77 Posted October 20, 2019 Author #126 Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, NMTraveller said: On NCL Breakaway we had teens running through the hallway at 3 AM. On Celebrity they tend to behave. Wow that would have been a rude awakening. Not ideal at 3am. What about celebrity makes them behave ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted October 20, 2019 #127 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Bootstrap77 said: Wow that would have been a rude awakening. Not ideal at 3am. What about celebrity makes them behave ? The parents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted October 20, 2019 #128 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bootstrap77 said: I agree. I don’t recommend the line either to friends with families. I recommend it to singles and couples. What I have witnessed though unfortunately is that the parents will off load the kids to the grandparents and either the parent or grandparents will bring the kids to areas such as the martini bar and sunset bar. I witnessed a grandmother babysitting a toddler at sunset bar and she had the toddler catching ants crawling up the wall. Then there was the parent that parked the stroller at the martini bar while they got their drink on. Good for the parent for wanting a fun vacation but that’s Not what I want to see and experience on my vacation. Those grandparents and parents would not be our family. I don't like to sit at bars anywhere and am not much of a drinker....we enjoy our family time.,.and would be glad to give our dtr anc sil some time "off duty". Just like at home, Guess some families are different! We have also witnessed kids being left in care all day on Royal C or even left on their own to roam with other teens! Also on Royal out of Miami..kids and teens running amok day and night...lack of parental supervision and the ship security was totally overwhelmed. No programs fix that! Very sad! Edited October 20, 2019 by hcat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted October 20, 2019 #129 Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 hours ago, mahdnc said: Financially, it probably makes sense for them to do it although personally I hope they don't. Silhouette's FVs are a whopping 618 sq ft in size on Deck 8 (Deck 7 FVs are slightly smaller) which puts it well into a suite category space-wise. Compared to a classic suite floorplan, it lacks a walk-in closet and a more spacious (and well appointed) bathroom. Our family of four loves those cabins, so I hope they leave it alone. Also this would represent a change in plans (as I think you know) because we were booked in one of those FVs for Silhouette's first cruise coming out of drydock (Jan 31 2020 sailing, the ill fated 14 night S Carib). One bathroom???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NMTraveller Posted October 20, 2019 #130 Share Posted October 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, NMTraveller said: The parents. It comes down to some parents viewing a cruise ship as a sitting service and others vacationing with their kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mahdnc Posted October 20, 2019 #131 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, hcat said: One bathroom???? Yes, and it is the same standard sized/appointed bathroom that you will find in the non-suite staterooms. It works very well for us but perhaps not for others. And it is something that I am sure would get rectified if it were to be converted into a suite. Oh, and also it only one set of electrical outlets located by the desk which is a bit in-congruent for its massive size. But it is a great cabin for our family. Edited October 20, 2019 by mahdnc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bootstrap77 Posted October 20, 2019 Author #132 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Thanks everyone for contributing. My original question was not if X was right for kids or good/bad for kids. It seems like this thread took a turn towards that theme of topic. It doesn’t matter to me if you think celebrity is good for kids, I just don’t want to vacation with loads of them. This is a debate that has and probably will continue to go on for many many posts...... I started this thread because I genuinely wanted to know if the kids sail free promo affected how many kids are on board. I don’t like sailing with infants and young children on board. I don’t see that opinion changing any time soon. We are loyal celebrity passengers but because of the increase in families we are thinking of switching lines. Before we did I wanted to see if the trend that I’ve noticed is continuing and so I started this thread. Many of you have given me great ideas and tips. Thank you so much!!! Longer cruises, non holiday times, aqua class. Awesome ideas. I know there are no guarantees. But I’ll take the tips they are great. May all of your cruises be everything you wanted and more!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Cruiser 6143 Posted October 20, 2019 #133 Share Posted October 20, 2019 4 hours ago, PTC DAWG said: 2 7 day sailings? As as mentioned above, the 11 southern Caribbean I was on recently had hardly any kids..that really was a nice itinerary The Eastern was 7 nights. The Western was 6 nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted October 21, 2019 #134 Share Posted October 21, 2019 6 hours ago, hcat said: One bathroom???? That was my thought as well! What a horrible setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sea Gull Posted October 21, 2019 #135 Share Posted October 21, 2019 14 hours ago, NMTraveller said: On NCL Breakaway we had teens running through the hallway at 3 AM. On Celebrity they tend to behave. Really! You might want to read this: https://boards.cruisecritic.co.uk/topic/2689072-negative-silhouette-reviews-in-the-med/?tab=comments#comment-58171741 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeRick Posted October 21, 2019 #136 Share Posted October 21, 2019 15 hours ago, Bootstrap77 said: Thanks everyone for contributing. My original question was not if X was right for kids or good/bad for kids. It seems like this thread took a turn towards that theme of topic. It doesn’t matter to me if you think celebrity is good for kids, I just don’t want to vacation with loads of them. This is a debate that has and probably will continue to go on for many many posts...... I started this thread because I genuinely wanted to know if the kids sail free promo affected how many kids are on board. I don’t like sailing with infants and young children on board. I don’t see that opinion changing any time soon. We are loyal celebrity passengers but because of the increase in families we are thinking of switching lines. Before we did I wanted to see if the trend that I’ve noticed is continuing and so I started this thread. Many of you have given me great ideas and tips. Thank you so much!!! Longer cruises, non holiday times, aqua class. Awesome ideas. I know there are no guarantees. But I’ll take the tips they are great. May all of your cruises be everything you wanted and more!!!! Thanks for the follow up. Threads have a way of going in uncertain directions on certain topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgolf2 Posted October 21, 2019 #137 Share Posted October 21, 2019 My 2 cents on this is if you don't want a lot of kids on a cruise, I am guessing Celebrity is a good bet based on my 1 experience on the Edge and the average age of the cruisers and what I have read when these threads pop up. The thing is though since Celebrity is ok with kids cruising the line, you could see many kids or no kids depending on when you sail. From our time on Disney, you will see a range of behavior from kids and parents of those kids. From wild and out of control to super polite and quiet. Just because they are on X doesn't mean they will be better behaved, heck Disney is a more expensive line now. If any one wants to sail without kids than a line that doesn't allow them would be the line for you. This seems to me like the argument about people that move near an airport and then push back in the community because it is too loud. X allows kids, we all need to deal with it. I am just glad it isn't kid soup like Disney:) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitz18 Posted October 21, 2019 #138 Share Posted October 21, 2019 18 hours ago, Bootstrap77 said: Thanks everyone for contributing. My original question was not if X was right for kids or good/bad for kids. It seems like this thread took a turn towards that theme of topic. As you know there are certain topics that will always go off the rails. The subjects of tips, dress codes, saving pool chairs and ofc kids & dogs on board will always be a hot button. (Yes, I did just lump them together, sorry). But towards your question, it does seem that many lines are trying to capture a younger audience and that includes those that have kids. As an old-fart non-parent, I prefer to see no kids; but even the higher end lines such as Silver Sea are somewhat “promoting” kids. I’m not sure where you would switch to, as kids are everywhere. Dealing with them is a curse of getting older I guess. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted October 21, 2019 #139 Share Posted October 21, 2019 55 minutes ago, mitz18 said: I’m not sure where you would switch to, as kids are everywhere. Virgin Cruise Line is 18+. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateUpNorth Posted October 21, 2019 #140 Share Posted October 21, 2019 19 hours ago, Bootstrap77 said: I started this thread because I genuinely wanted to know if the kids sail free promo affected how many kids are on board. I don’t like sailing with infants and young children on board. I don’t see that opinion changing any time soon. We are loyal celebrity passengers but because of the increase in families we are thinking of switching lines. Before we did I wanted to see if the trend that I’ve noticed is continuing and so I started this thread. Yes it does. We've cruised RCL so far, and now for 2020 we are this * * close to booking Celebrity with our two kids. Will the trend continue? Yes again. A quick look at a demographics chart. including where the "Baby boomer" generation currently sits, will draw a direct link to why cruise lines are going this route. Cruise lines need to capture a new market, which again re-inforces the fact that a Kids Sail Free promo WILL affect how many kids are on board. This applies to EVERY cruise line that isn't specifically "No Kids Allowed". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Barracuda Posted October 21, 2019 #141 Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Georgia_Peaches said: Virgin Cruise Line is 18+. So is Viking 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted October 21, 2019 #142 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, NateUpNorth said: Yes it does. We've cruised RCL so far, and now for 2020 we are this * * close to booking Celebrity with our two kids. Will the trend continue? Yes again. A quick look at a demographics chart. including where the "Baby boomer" generation currently sits, will draw a direct link to why cruise lines are going this route. Cruise lines need to capture a new market, which again re-inforces the fact that a Kids Sail Free promo WILL affect how many kids are on board. This applies to EVERY cruise line that isn't specifically "No Kids Allowed". Celebrity needs to beef up the entertainment for adults because after my cruise on the Anthem I'm not looking to run back to Princess or Celebrity. I was born at the tail end of the baby boom and not interested in bingo, trivia the lame shows they offer. My kids probably won't be sailing on Celebrity or Princess until they are my age. They have booked Royal, NCL and Carnival. They actually have more cruises on Princess because that's what we booked when they were kids but there is nothing to entice them to that line now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted October 21, 2019 #143 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Iamcruzin said: Celebrity needs to beef up the entertainment for adults because after my cruise on the Anthem I'm not looking to run back to Princess or Celebrity. I was born at the tail end of the baby boom and not interested in bingo, trivia the lame shows they offer. My kids probably won't be sailing on Celebrity or Princess until they are my age. They have booked Royal, NCL and Carnival. They actually have more cruises on Princess because that's what we booked when they were kids but there is nothing to entice them to that line now. Early Gen Xers here...and we are in the same boat, so to speak. We like the Celebrity product for the upscale feel but are not too impressed with the entertainment...at all. Especially after being on several NCL cruises with our twenty-somethings where there are literally so many things to choose from, it would be a challenge to do them all. Wouldn't dream of taking our adult kids, much less grand kids (if we have them someday) on a Celebrity cruise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitz18 Posted October 21, 2019 #144 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Georgia_Peaches said: Virgin Cruise Line is 18+. well, anyone under 21 is a kid in my book. 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted October 21, 2019 #145 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 hours ago, mitz18 said: well, anyone under 21 is a kid in my book. 😎 According to my 87 year old mother I'm still a kid at 58. You must be young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted October 21, 2019 #146 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Georgia_Peaches said: Early Gen Xers here...and we are in the same boat, so to speak. We like the Celebrity product for the upscale feel but are not too impressed with the entertainment...at all. Especially after being on several NCL cruises with our twenty-somethings where there are literally so many things to choose from, it would be a challenge to do them all. Wouldn't dream of taking our adult kids, much less grand kids (if we have them someday) on a Celebrity cruise. The reason I was on the Anthem was because of my 24 year old. I thought I wouldn't like it (too many kids) but I was pleasantly surprised. I don't think I would sail Oasis class with or without kids. It's just too big. My wife thought Anthem was too big but we happen to pick a good location just by luck. It was close to all of the spots we hit most often. Edited October 21, 2019 by Iamcruzin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare hcat Posted October 21, 2019 #147 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Georgia_Peaches said: Early Gen Xers here...and we are in the same boat, so to speak. We like the Celebrity product for the upscale feel but are not too impressed with the entertainment...at all. Especially after being on several NCL cruises with our twenty-somethings where there are literally so many things to choose from, it would be a challenge to do them all. Wouldn't dream of taking our adult kids, much less grand kids (if we have them someday) on a Celebrity cruise. Guess you'd call our family dull and boring. Not all concerned with bars and shows...just great food and service, uncrowded and relaxing. Nice non-party demographic And we are dreaming about a family cruise on X in the near future, as soon as little guy is 4. When grands become older and teens, then it'll have to be Royal C. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Georgia_Peaches Posted October 21, 2019 #148 Share Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, hcat said: Guess you'd call our family dull and boring. Not all concerned with bars and shows...just great food and service, uncrowded and relaxing. Nice non-party demographic And we are dreaming about a family cruise on X in the near future, as soon as little guy is 4. When grands become older and teens, then it'll have to be Royal C. Lol...don't get me wrong...Celebrity is our go to line when its just DH and me...I view "dull and boring" more like calm and relaxing...both things I love about X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare WrittenOnYourHeart Posted October 21, 2019 #149 Share Posted October 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, hcat said: Guess you'd call our family dull and boring. Not all concerned with bars and shows...just great food and service, uncrowded and relaxing. Nice non-party demographic And we are dreaming about a family cruise on X in the near future, as soon as little guy is 4. When grands become older and teens, then it'll have to be Royal C. I’m right there with you in the “dull and boring” category. Solo Gen-Xer who cruises to relax and chill and does not need water slides and fake surfing things and ropes courses. Give me a lounger, the ocean, and a good book and I am a happy cruiser. I’m very picky about shows, and after being stuck mid-row with no escape for a nightmare of a show (hint - when the cruise Director introduces a show by saying “it...well, if you’ve been drinking it might make sense” RUN AWAY!), I make sure to sit on an aisle and towards the back so I can escape. I’ve normally done Disney which suits me well (if you are in the adult areas there are no kids...and most of the time I see them pleading to stay in the clubs - I saw more kids on HALon my one cruise with them than I feel like I have on Disney - because on HAL they refused to go in the club) - but I am excited to try Celebrity and see how I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mek Posted October 22, 2019 #150 Share Posted October 22, 2019 On 10/16/2019 at 8:51 PM, Bootstrap77 said: We aren’t in a position to take a cruise longer than 10 days (give or take a day) but I have been told longer cruises have less families We usually see very few children on cruises over 10 nights and if there are they generally are pre school age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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