CruiserBruce Posted July 15, 2020 #26 Share Posted July 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, YXU AC*SE said: Yes. Still are AFAIK. Scott. Nope. Amsterdam and Rotterdam currently are...have been for 10 or 15 years. Edit: its not clear from @lcand1923 is referring to Veendam and Maasdam, or Amsterdam and Rotterdam. In 20-20 hindsight...probably Amsterdam and Rotterdam. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted July 15, 2020 #27 Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, lcand1923 said: At one time, weren't these two vessels considered the Joint Flagships of HAL? They still are. I can’t see doing a world cruise on the Veendam and the Maasdam has some weaknesses IMO. Oops sorry for an echo. Looks like several of us posted at the same time 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted July 15, 2020 #28 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just now, CruiserBruce said: Nope. Amsterdam and Rotterdam currently are...have been for 10 or 15 years. That's who I was referring to ... Scott. (thread drift of sorts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted July 15, 2020 #29 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, YXU AC*SE said: That's who I was referring to ... Scott. (thread drift of sorts) See my edit above:Edit: its not clear from @lcand1923 is referring to Veendam and Maasdam, or Amsterdam and Rotterdam. In 20-20 hindsight...probably Amsterdam and Rotterdam. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted July 15, 2020 #30 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) So world cruise now on Zaandam? (I think a lot of us are typing simultaneously) 🙂 Scott. Edited July 15, 2020 by YXU AC*SE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cwtravel Posted July 15, 2020 #31 Share Posted July 15, 2020 My opinion all four are being sold. I can not see a World Cruise sailing for a few years. A vaccine needs to be developed, tested and deployed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YXU AC*SE Posted July 15, 2020 #32 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just crossed my Twitter feed: https://www.hollandamerica.com/blog/topics/news/four-ships-to-leave-the-holland-america-line-fleet-in-2020/ Scott. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalay1903 Posted July 15, 2020 #33 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Well there you have it... Scratch 20 days on the Maasdam and 28 days on the Veendam for us in the coming year. Thank YXU so much for posting the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseAdict218 Posted July 15, 2020 #34 Share Posted July 15, 2020 https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23246-four-holland-america-line-ships-sold.html Maasdam, Veendam, Amsterdam and Rotterdam all sold but not for scrap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise44 Posted July 15, 2020 #35 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Sad news, first time in a long time Holland America Line won't have a "Rotterdam" in the fleet: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23246-four-holland-america-line-ships-sold.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prescottbob Posted July 15, 2020 #36 Share Posted July 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, CruiseAdict218 said: https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23246-four-holland-america-line-ships-sold.html Maasdam, Veendam, Amsterdam and Rotterdam all sold but not for scrap. HAL Blog announcement link: https://www.hollandamerica.com/blog/topics/news/four-ships-to-leave-the-holland-america-line-fleet-in-2020/ Be well. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkacruiser Posted July 15, 2020 #37 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, JRG said: Nine to five it is. Time to cue Dolly Parton!😀 Music soothes the soul someone once said. I think that is what we need in this day and time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted July 15, 2020 #38 Share Posted July 15, 2020 How sad! Looks like no more "Grands" - at least for a while. We have a cruise booked for next year on Rotterdam, some of it paid for with the FCCs from our cancelled April Rotterdam cruise. More confusion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted July 15, 2020 #39 Share Posted July 15, 2020 So one of our favorites, the Maasdam, and our least favorite, the Veendam, gone next month and the Amsterdam and Rotterdam later in the year. No chance for a farewell cruise. I can’t express my extreme sadness to see our much beloved S-class ships disappear from the fleet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyrc5 Posted July 15, 2020 #40 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 hours ago, kazu said: I haven’t seen an announcement. Link please? If they were just sold then I suspect the cruises will either be cancelled or an offer to change to a different ship and itinerary? It is 4 ships - Also the Amsterdam and the Rotterdam. This virus is killing everything! On the Rotterdam in November 2019 the captain said at his "ask the captain" that HAL was planning to keep the Rotterdam for another 10 years. https://www.hollandamerica.com/blog/topics/news/four-ships-to-leave-the-holland-america-line-fleet-in-2020/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paganwoman Posted July 15, 2020 #41 Share Posted July 15, 2020 She was my favorite ship. Have a cruise scheduled on her for Sept 2021 that apparently is not going to happen 🤥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ew101 Posted July 15, 2020 #42 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 hour ago, YXU AC*SE said: Oh, there shall be rending of garments and gnashing of teeth I fear. ms Rotterdam 1997 61,849 ms Amsterdam 2000 62,735 Scott. They are going to a good home and not scrap thankfully. These are lovely ships. "High yielding cabin mix" is a code word for balcony cabins which are in short supply on the really old tonnage they are replacing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer slope Posted July 15, 2020 #43 Share Posted July 15, 2020 With these 4 small ships leaving the fleet, what ships are the next smallest? We are booked on the Veendam for January and love the small size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Crazy For Cats Posted July 15, 2020 #44 Share Posted July 15, 2020 This is sad news for us. We have a cruise on the Veendam booked for March. I wonder what the replacement will be, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer slope Posted July 15, 2020 #45 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just received an email from Holland America that our cruise is cancelled.....sigh....not a happy house here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ANGELCAT Posted July 15, 2020 #46 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Wow. I never expected to see the 2 co/flagships go at the same time. Maybe the Ryndam will be renamed to Rotterdam . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted July 15, 2020 #47 Share Posted July 15, 2020 We really like Zaandam and Volendam. Just hope they don't go, too. They are the last ones of the smaller ships, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted July 15, 2020 #48 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) Very sad day! They can sell the ships but wonderful adventures and memories last forever!🛳☹️ Edited July 15, 2020 by aliaschief 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vict0riann Posted July 15, 2020 #49 Share Posted July 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, summer slope said: Just received an email from Holland America that our cruise is cancelled.....sigh....not a happy house here. We just got it, too. I wonder how they are going to figure out the FCC on the FCC... double deposit, then more FCC.🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfocruiser Posted July 15, 2020 #50 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) the Amsterdam is also leaving "Amsterdam and Rotterdam will move to another company in fall 2020" Edited July 15, 2020 by sfocruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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