TheMastodon Posted January 1, 2021 #1051 Share Posted January 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Here is another good one. 51yo Daytona Beach Mayor jumps vaccine line for vaccine. People are sheep and don’t know it. Do as I say not as I do. M8 https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/coronavirus/2020/12/31/daytona-beach-mayor-51-gets-covid-vaccine-halifax-health/4097888001/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ghf-daytona-main&fbclid=IwAR3d79EGjEQSSd93GdXwhONHdVtwBi3r5iF8jpVA8mWiSELic8vUKwyWWcA Rules for thee but not for me! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMastodon Posted January 1, 2021 #1052 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Avg life years lost 1918 Spanish flu - 50 2020 Covid19 - .5 I listen to good science 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 1, 2021 #1053 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 hours ago, ONECRUISER said: Not surprised, wasn't it few weeks ago in the News that the Convicted 1998 US Embassy Bombings Terrorist wanted out early. He is overweight @220# his Lawyer told the judge "even another six weeks behind bars is too long for Bari who suffers from asthma, amid the coronavirus pandemic" Guy is 60, at least he didnt get Vaccine before many others There must be an all you can eat buffet in prison. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lr657 Posted January 1, 2021 #1054 Share Posted January 1, 2021 12 hours ago, gatour said: And some counties in Florida are experiencing 4+ hour waits for vaccinations. Not exactly the gold standard in scheduling/administrating vaccinations Pinellas County is still forming a plan and hasn't even started taking appointments yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBlackDress Posted January 1, 2021 #1055 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I am another to admit I have not read every post... At this time, even if I was eligible to get it right now, I can't and won't... I am allergic to a few things and there are so many unknowns still. When I had to have my spleen out I needed to get a few vaccines first. They made me schedule an appointment to have them done in the hospital "just in case". It wasn't fun then and those were vaccines that had been proven for years. I am thankful they have not mandated a vaccine yet in order to cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONECRUISER Posted January 1, 2021 #1056 Share Posted January 1, 2021 3 hours ago, TheMastodon said: Avg life years lost 1918 Spanish flu - 50 2020 Covid19 - .5 I listen to good science Thanks, I remember seeing one these on US last July showing similar, want say their numbers at the time were .7yrs, though not sure what is now 6months later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted January 1, 2021 #1057 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 minute ago, yogimax said: Some of us actually believe that "illegals" as you call them are still human beings. Agree. I’d extend that to some of the statements and sentiments I’ve seen recently respecting incarcerated persons. Often, they have families, friends and others who would like to see them do their time in often over-crowded facilities without having to fear illness or worse because others feel they’re not worth protecting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted January 1, 2021 #1058 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, d9704011 said: Agree. I’d extend that to some of the statements and sentiments I’ve seen recently respecting incarcerated persons. Often, they have families, friends and others who would like to see them do their time in often over-crowded facilities without having to fear illness or worse because others feel they’re not worth protecting. Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted January 1, 2021 #1059 Share Posted January 1, 2021 13 hours ago, ONECRUISER said: Not surprised, wasn't it few weeks ago in the News that the Convicted 1998 US Embassy Bombings Terrorist wanted out early. He is overweight @220# his Lawyer told the judge "even another six weeks behind bars is too long for Bari who suffers from asthma, amid the coronavirus pandemic" Guy is 60, at least he didnt get Vaccine before many others Then you open the door for him don't you. Killed while trying to escape! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace2542 Posted January 1, 2021 #1060 Share Posted January 1, 2021 8 hours ago, jean87510 said: ridiculous. Why are the vaccine sites allowing this? I had to show my badge, ID and drivers license and they were actually holding my license up to the light (like it was a fake $20). At least with the 2 shot dose the vaccine can't be stolen by what criminal or gangs like your bloods or crips or MS13 and sold on the streets for what bucks a pop? As you need both doses on a timeframe there would be no point to buying a stolen shot. Theft might be a danger with the single shot johnson and johnson vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LorraineP Posted January 1, 2021 #1061 Share Posted January 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, d9704011 said: Agree. I’d extend that to some of the statements and sentiments I’ve seen recently respecting incarcerated persons. Often, they have families, friends and others who would like to see them do their time in often over-crowded facilities without having to fear illness or worse because others feel they’re not worth protecting. Yes, but so do the ones that could have gotten the vaccines that have been given to prisoners & illegals. They have families & friends too. Not saying they shouldn’t get it but let them wait. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ReneeFLL Posted January 1, 2021 #1062 Share Posted January 1, 2021 47 minutes ago, yogimax said: Some of us actually believe that "illegals" as you call them are still human beings. Let's see. The term is "illegal". Why should someone get the shot ahead of a US citizen or someone who is here legally? If they don't like it they can go back where they came from. Just saying. 42 minutes ago, d9704011 said: Agree. I’d extend that to some of the statements and sentiments I’ve seen recently respecting incarcerated persons. Often, they have families, friends and others who would like to see them do their time in often over-crowded facilities without having to fear illness or worse because others feel they’re not worth protecting. The facilities wouldn't be over crowded if they didn't commit a crime. Sure some are petty crimes, but what about murderers, etc? They shouldn't have done the crime if they don't like the conditions or sentence. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted January 1, 2021 #1063 Share Posted January 1, 2021 53 minutes ago, d9704011 said: Agree. I’d extend that to some of the statements and sentiments I’ve seen recently respecting incarcerated persons. Often, they have families, friends and others who would like to see them do their time in often over-crowded facilities without having to fear illness or worse because others feel they’re not worth protecting. Hog wash 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted January 1, 2021 #1064 Share Posted January 1, 2021 59 minutes ago, yogimax said: Some of us actually believe that "illegals" as you call them are still human beings. Would you let illegals go in front of you? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruising sister Posted January 1, 2021 #1065 Share Posted January 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, LorraineP said: Yes, but so do the ones that could have gotten the vaccines that have been given to prisoners & illegals. They have families & friends too. Not saying they shouldn’t get it but let them wait. I think people are missing the point of how to control the pandemic. Everyone needs to be vaccinated and those in close quarters especially as it spreads so easily and will escape into the community easily. Other than a few who jump ahead you need to allow health personnel decide how best to proceed. I do agree we need a national strategy as state lines are a blur and we do not live in isolation. Kindness to our fellow man. Not one of us is perfect or never made a mistake. If so certainly go to the head of the line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted January 1, 2021 #1066 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, d9704011 said: Agree. I’d extend that to some of the statements and sentiments I’ve seen recently respecting incarcerated persons. Often, they have families, friends and others who would like to see them do their time in often over-crowded facilities without having to fear illness or worse because others feel they’re not worth protecting. But can’t they wait until after the 65+ and first responders are vaccinated? Why should they get priority over the general public? M8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyluvs2cruise Posted January 1, 2021 #1067 Share Posted January 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Here is another good one. 51yo Daytona Beach Mayor jumps vaccine line for vaccine. People are sheep and don’t know it. Do as I say not as I do. M8 https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/coronavirus/2020/12/31/daytona-beach-mayor-51-gets-covid-vaccine-halifax-health/4097888001/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=ghf-daytona-main&fbclid=IwAR3d79EGjEQSSd93GdXwhONHdVtwBi3r5iF8jpVA8mWiSELic8vUKwyWWcA Do you know if all in nursing homes/care facilities have been vaccinated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted January 1, 2021 #1068 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) Have the individuals that reside in FL long term care had their vaccines yet? It seems as though they are having a hard time getting it to the general public from what I read here and in the press. I am wondering if all front line staff at Hospitals, care centres, first responds etc have had their opportunity to be vaccinated on top of LTC residents. Seems like a cluster “f” to me. Edited January 1, 2021 by A&L_Ont 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted January 1, 2021 #1069 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, suzyluvs2cruise said: Do you know if all in nursing homes/care facilities have been vaccinated? I do not. The vaccine need to be stored at ultra cold temperatures. Not sure the are setup for the refrigeration units. Edited January 1, 2021 by Milwaukee Eight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keksie Posted January 1, 2021 #1070 Share Posted January 1, 2021 In our county they have vaccinated the front line workers and are doing the LTC residents. That is why they don't have the reservation system for the 65+ set up yet. When they first mentioned the vaccine I didn't expect to be vaccinated before April, now it looks like it will be sooner so I am happy. I think part of the problem is that once it was announced people thought they would get appointments the first day. It takes awhile since people have to be observed for 15-20 minutes after the shot and Florida has a lot of people over 65. There are 30,000 just in our county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 1, 2021 #1071 Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ace2542 said: At least with the 2 shot dose the vaccine can't be stolen by what criminal or gangs like your bloods or crips or MS13 and sold on the streets for what bucks a pop? As you need both doses on a timeframe there would be no point to buying a stolen shot. Theft might be a danger with the single shot johnson and johnson vaccine. Anyone who would buy "black market" vaccine is an idiot plain and simple. First off, no criminal is going to store it properly so it is most likely going to be worthless when you inject it into yourself. Secondly, why would criminals bother to obtain the stuff? They can just fill vials with saline and sell to the above referenced idiots. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted January 1, 2021 #1072 Share Posted January 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said: Have the individuals that reside in FL long term care had their vaccines yet? It seems as though they are having a hard time getting it to the general public from what I read here and in the press. I am wondering if all front line staff at Hospitals, care centres, first responds etc have had their opportunity to be vaccinated on top of LTC residents. Seems like a cluster “f” to me. Not sure. I think it has to do with the refrigeration required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyluvs2cruise Posted January 1, 2021 #1073 Share Posted January 1, 2021 I was just reading in another FB cruising group that residents over 65 can get the Moderna vaccine. I've asked about those in LTC facilities. Interesting how distribution is being done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 1, 2021 #1074 Share Posted January 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, cruising sister said: I think people are missing the point of how to control the pandemic. Everyone needs to be vaccinated and those in close quarters especially as it spreads so easily and will escape into the community easily. Other than a few who jump ahead you need to allow health personnel decide how best to proceed. I do agree we need a national strategy as state lines are a blur and we do not live in isolation. Kindness to our fellow man. Not one of us is perfect or never made a mistake. If so certainly go to the head of the line. That will only happen when politicians and lawyers turn medicine back over to doctors. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted January 1, 2021 #1075 Share Posted January 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Not sure. I think it has to do with the refrigeration required. The Pfizer vaccine can be out of the deep freeze for 4 days prior to use and the Moderna vaccine I believe is good for 30 days after. Most standard freezers are perfectly fine for the Moderna vaccine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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