Iamcruzin Posted August 11, 2020 #51 Share Posted August 11, 2020 6 hours ago, molly361 said: or just go with the ships that are already booked for the 3/4 night cruises and just cancel all others for a couple of months That would make sense so that's a guarantee that it won't happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted August 11, 2020 #52 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Since we always fly to port 7 days is our shortest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebucks Posted August 11, 2020 #53 Share Posted August 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: Proably very true. How many people are going to spend the money to, and take the risk of, flying to spend 3-4 days on a ship? So it will be mostly locals who can drive to the port. One thing I've learned in life is when you say "who would do this?" there are people doing that exact thing that doesn't sound good to you. Not only that, but 4 day cruises are extremely common, and filled up before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted August 11, 2020 #54 Share Posted August 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, CSHS1979 said: Look, all you can go by is what they have been saying for a while. Bigger ships make more money, and short cruises will be the first to sail. How long the short cruises are the norm is up in the air Look, I am not arguing with anyone. I don't know what they are doing and I don't much think that they do either. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted August 11, 2020 #55 Share Posted August 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Joebucks said: One thing I've learned in life is when you say "who would do this?" there are people doing that exact thing that doesn't sound good to you. Not only that, but 4 day cruises are extremely common, and filled up before. I said short cruises would probably fill up with locals. Right now flying has a risk that previously was not there. But you are right, I have no idea what others will do so.... I will not go through the risk, and expense, of flying for a short cruise. And that is especially true when I don't even know what the product, or hassle, will be like. Better? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSHS1979 Posted August 11, 2020 #56 Share Posted August 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said: I said short cruises would probably fill up with locals. Right now flying has a risk that previously was not there. But you are right, I have no idea what others will do so.... I will not go through the risk, and expense, of flying for a short cruise. And that is especially true when I don't even know what the product, or hassle, will be like. Better? If I was RCG, I might only want drive up customers in the beginning. Keep pax off of planes and away from motels/restaurants pre cruise. 15-20 million people live within 3 hours of PE and PC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted August 11, 2020 #57 Share Posted August 11, 2020 They only want short cruises because the longer you stay on the ship your chances of showing Covid symptoms rise greatly. If you catch Covid on the cruise and find out 2 days later after you get off the ship you have the virus...............it doesn't get blamed for catching it on the ship...........They will say you caught it somewhere else before or after you got off or on the ship.People have caught the virus while flying yet the airlines are still operating!Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrednole Posted August 11, 2020 #58 Share Posted August 11, 2020 4 hours ago, PhoenixCruiser said: People have caught the virus while flying yet the airlines are still operating! I agree. Airlines will disagree with ANY chance of getting infected on a plane. They will blame it on the airports and not themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted August 11, 2020 #59 Share Posted August 11, 2020 6 hours ago, CSHS1979 said: If I was RCG, I might only want drive up customers in the beginning. Keep pax off of planes and away from motels/restaurants pre cruise. 15-20 million people live within 3 hours of PE and PC But Florida is one of the most infected states in the Country, who would want to sail with a ship full of Florida people right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamcruzin Posted August 11, 2020 #60 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, bigrednole said: I agree. Airlines will disagree with ANY chance of getting infected on a plane. They will blame it on the airports and not themselves. 5 hours ago, PhoenixCruiser said: People have caught the virus while flying yet the airlines are still operating! Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk The airlines are an essential business. If it were 1912 the cruise lines would be an essential business. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted August 11, 2020 #61 Share Posted August 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jimbo said: But Florida is one of the most infected states in the Country, who would want to sail with a ship full of Florida people right now. Thanks😇 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSHS1979 Posted August 11, 2020 #62 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Jimbo said: But Florida is one of the most infected states in the Country, who would want to sail with a ship full of Florida people right now. Umm, other Florida people. 😉 TX is no better Can you sail 3 days from NJ or Baltimore.🤔 Would you fly to FL? Edited August 11, 2020 by CSHS1979 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuCruise Posted August 11, 2020 #63 Share Posted August 11, 2020 21 minutes ago, CSHS1979 said: Umm, other Florida people. 😉 TX is no better Can you sail 3 days from NJ or Baltimore.🤔 Would you fly to FL? Not a 3 day but we have a 5 day Bermuda cruise in July from NJ. Not sure if "short" would include 5 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSHS1979 Posted August 11, 2020 #64 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, LuCruise said: Not a 3 day but we have a 5 day Bermuda cruise in July from NJ. Not sure if "short" would include 5 days. What ship, Anthem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuCruise Posted August 11, 2020 #65 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, CSHS1979 said: What ship, Anthem Freedom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted August 11, 2020 #66 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Iamcruzin said: The airlines are an essential business. If it were 1912 the cruise lines would be an essential business. And people would still be talking about the recently sunk Titanic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 11, 2020 #67 Share Posted August 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Ocean Boy said: Proably very true. How many people are going to spend the money to, and take the risk of, flying to spend 3-4 days on a ship? So it will be mostly locals who can drive to the port. Lots of people don’t fly to cruises. Probably more than enough to fill up ships to 50% capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSHS1979 Posted August 11, 2020 #68 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said: Lots of people don’t fly to cruises. Probably more than enough to fill up ships to 50% capacity. True, but if they drive more than 4-5 hours they likely will come in a day early and need overnight accomodations. That adds another layer of exposure Edited August 11, 2020 by CSHS1979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted August 11, 2020 #69 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Doesn’t B2B defeat the purpose of 3/4 night cruises to start back sailing? M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaritimeR&R Posted August 11, 2020 #70 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I wanted to know why, given Fain's statements why the 10,11, and 12 sailings scheduled for either Anthem or Vision starting in Dec. were not cancelled yet. The response I got was that "the situation is still very fluid." It should have been that the deposits and final payments for those sailings is too much money for RC to part with right now. According to an article I just read RC has billions in refundable deposits and about 800 million in NRD; it would appear they are doing their very best to lock in those deposits and where possible, extract the final payments from those passengers. If we are to believe Fain, and acknowledge the viewpoints of others in the industry. There is nothing "fluid" about these sailings taking place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrednole Posted August 11, 2020 #71 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Iamcruzin said: The airlines are an essential business. If it were 1912 the cruise lines would be an essential business. How are they essential? They are not needed for domestic travel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted August 11, 2020 #72 Share Posted August 11, 2020 18 hours ago, zekekelso said: Maybe it’s a misquote. What if they are starting with fewer cruises and shorter people. How tall are you? LOL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheJourney Posted August 11, 2020 #73 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Jimbo said: who would want to sail with a ship full of Florida people right now. Taking this a step further, who (in other countries) would want to sail with a ship full of US citizens. I wouldn't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PelicanBill Posted August 11, 2020 #74 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I think demand will be soft for 3-4-5 day cruises even if capped at 50%. I don't think there are enough people who can drive to ports, and who will view that as enough of a vacation. For those that fly, why spend the money on flights and hotel for such a short vacation. It would be interesting to know how many fly/drive. When I left from Miami last time, I did not see that many cars parking but admittedly did not sit and watch. Based on roll calls... NY based cruises had a high % of drive in and locals. Miami and Port Canaveral - overwhelmingly fly in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSHS1979 Posted August 11, 2020 #75 Share Posted August 11, 2020 42 minutes ago, OnTheJourney said: Taking this a step further, who (in other countries) would want to sail with a ship full of US citizens. I wouldn't. 75% of Royals customers are North Americans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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