mcrcruiser Posted October 6, 2020 Author #201 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Here is a interesting article from Yahoo Finance .com :https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/10/06/will-royal-caribbean-follow-carnival-and-norwegian/ It is a recent article about the cruise industry ,the CDC & when cruises may start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargassoPirate Posted October 7, 2020 #202 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Here is some food for thought: If the US population is around 330 million and we have 7.49 million cases of Covid19 as of yesterday, 322.51 million Americans have not tested positive for the virus. Further, if we have suffered 210K deaths as of yesterday, 329,790,000 people in the US have not died from the virus. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessLuver Posted October 7, 2020 #203 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SargassoPirate said: Here is some food for thought: If the US population is around 330 million and we have 7.49 million cases of Covid19 as of yesterday, 322.51 million Americans have not tested positive for the virus. Further, if we have suffered 210K deaths as of yesterday, 329,790,000 people in the US have not died from the virus. 322.51 million people have not been tested in the US so we do not really know what the actual true COVID -19 cases might be.....however by most estimates at least 40,000 people a day are contracting COVID-19 and at least 750 to 1,000 people a day are still dying of COVID -19 in the USA...so it's not over until it's over.....some food for thought...... Edited October 7, 2020 by PrincessLuver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 7, 2020 #204 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, SargassoPirate said: Here is some food for thought: If the US population is around 330 million and we have 7.49 million cases of Covid19 as of yesterday, 322.51 million Americans have not tested positive for the virus. Further, if we have suffered 210K deaths as of yesterday, 329,790,000 people in the US have not died from the virus. Stop that, don't you know you're only allowed to post negative stats? No positive spin allowed, LOL. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted October 7, 2020 Author #205 Share Posted October 7, 2020 It seems to me that those numbers quoted in the above posts will diminish rapidly once the vaccinations are in place & we are hopeful that they will be available to every one in the USA by early next year . Additionally with the mediations that the President received should also decrease the negative numbers of deaths if the patient gets those cocktails early in the process of the covid 19 virus . Then hopefully cruising can resume in a more normal manner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted October 7, 2020 #206 Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: It seems to me that those numbers quoted in the above posts will diminish rapidly once the vaccinations are in place & we are hopeful that they will be available to every one in the USA by early next year . Additionally with the mediations that the President received should also decrease the negative numbers of deaths if the patient gets those cocktails early in the process of the covid 19 virus . Then hopefully cruising can resume in a more normal manner Maybe.... all the average citizen needs is access to an army of doctors, unlimited funds, US military hospitals, helicopter rides from home to the hospital, etc, etc... Then, cruising can start.... woohoo!!! 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted October 7, 2020 Author #207 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, d9704011 said: Maybe.... all the average citizen needs is access to an army of doctors, unlimited funds, US military hospitals, helicopter rides from home to the hospital, etc, etc... Then, cruising can start.... woohoo!!! Any patient with covid 19 is fully funded by the US government is our understanding .There are zero out of pocket costs . These anti body cocktails are now available to a covid 19 patient even though the FDA has not formally approved of them . It certainly appears that if the cocktails of these antibodies are administered early in the covid 19 disease stage the patient should recover much quicker than the pre antibody process We certainly hope that with very careful procedures & protocols in place ,cruising can start post the October 31st CDC mandate ;however very moderately in the number of pax allowed per vessel & the number of vessels .Each month past Oct 31st will be monitored by both the CDC & other authorities Imo full cruise loads & deployment of ships as was prior to the covid 19 can not start until the majority of Americans have been given the covid 19 vaccines ,starting early next year . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 7, 2020 #208 Share Posted October 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, d9704011 said: Maybe.... all the average citizen needs is access to an army of doctors, unlimited funds, US military hospitals, helicopter rides from home to the hospital, etc, etc... Then, cruising can start.... woohoo!!! Just a friendly reminder, no political posts on Cruise Critic per the moderators. This post is clearly a reference to the US president. Thank you for respecting the rules. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted October 7, 2020 Author #209 Share Posted October 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: Just a friendly reminder, no political posts on Cruise Critic per the moderators. This post is clearly a reference to the US president. Thank you for respecting the rules. No it is not . We have known about the antibody medications from news casts a long time ago . We as Americans can be given these newer medications if all other procedures would not stop the spread of the covid 19 from attacking major organs & lungs .Candidly these are miracle drugs that can save numerous lives . The ultimate cure is the acceptance & adminstration of the covid 19 vaccines to not only here in the USA but through out the entire world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted October 7, 2020 #210 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: No it is not . We have known about the antibody medications from news casts a long time ago . We as Americans can be given these newer medications if all other procedures would not stop the spread of the covid 19 from attacking major organs & lungs .Candidly these are miracle drugs that can save numerous lives . The ultimate cure is the acceptance & adminstration of the covid 19 vaccines to not only here in the USA but through out the entire world Miraculous. Now, if people could just start wearing 25 cent masks to help stop the spreading wouldn’t that be truly something to behold? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted October 7, 2020 Author #211 Share Posted October 7, 2020 To be on the safe side of cruising we decided to not cruise until 2022 . It has to do with our senior ages .However , those in their 20s thru 50s should be able to start earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted October 7, 2020 Author #212 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 minute ago, d9704011 said: Miraculous. Now, if people could just start wearing 25 cent masks to help stop the spreading wouldn’t that be truly something to behold? We are hearing that thin masks may not prevent the spread of Covid 19 . The CDC always recommended N95 rated masks .Back in March or April we recall ordering 2 washable N95 rated masks on amazon at the cost of $23 each mask . Imo the ultimate safety could be a mask plus a shield .now we are seeing shields being advertised at reasonable costs We have witnessed younger people foolishly walk around with out masks & yes that will spread the virus .Here in San Diego county it is mandatory to wear masks when entering into any store Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 7, 2020 #213 Share Posted October 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: No it is not . We have known about the antibody medications from news casts a long time ago . We as Americans can be given these newer medications if all other procedures would not stop the spread of the covid 19 from attacking major organs & lungs .Candidly these are miracle drugs that can save numerous lives . The ultimate cure is the acceptance & adminstration of the covid 19 vaccines to not only here in the USA but through out the entire world The post I was referring to was a verbatim quote I read earlier this morning on Twitter and Facebook in reference to the US President. I highly doubt it's a coincidence that the EXACT SAME LANGUAGE was used. It was clearly political and therefore a violation of the rules. I'm not going to belabor the point. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted October 7, 2020 Author #214 Share Posted October 7, 2020 49 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: The post I was referring to was a verbatim quote I read earlier this morning on Twitter and Facebook in reference to the US President. I highly doubt it's a coincidence that the EXACT SAME LANGUAGE was used. It was clearly political and therefore a violation of the rules. I'm not going to belabor the point. Do we have to banter about this .What is important is that the drugs are now available to save lives . They also give hope to a earlier return to cruising ;because they are a prelude to full immunity when enough people get the vaccinations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 7, 2020 #215 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: Do we have to banter about this .What is important is that the drugs are now available to save lives . They also give hope to a earlier return to cruising ;because they are a prelude to full immunity when enough people get the vaccinations I just received a text (I signed up for COVID-19 alerts back in April) indicating that the county where I live is partnering with the state to implement vaccine testing soon. That's definitely a hopeful sign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted October 7, 2020 Author #216 Share Posted October 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: I just received a text (I signed up for COVID-19 alerts back in April) indicating that the county where I live is partnering with the state to implement vaccine testing soon. That's definitely a hopeful sign. There are many biotech & big pharma now in stage 3 trials to have vaccimnes available to the public .The only draw back has been some of the harsh side effects that some have reported in a CNBC report ,like 101 to 104 fevers , harsh shaking , severe headaches . Mind you these side effects may not be happeming to the vast majority of those test cases ;however ,it certainly warns people in our senior age group with underlying medical conditions .Those tests were where the company has to administer the 2 shot vaccine . now Johnson & Johnson who is in stage 3 trials & testing over 60000 volunteers has a one shot vaccine candidate . We have not heard yet of any adverse side effects from the JnJ vaccine .Thus ,there is a great deal of hope that we all will soon see the light at the end of this tunnel 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elevatorman Posted October 7, 2020 #217 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 hours ago, SargassoPirate said: Here is some food for thought: If the US population is around 330 million and we have 7.49 million cases of Covid19 as of yesterday, 322.51 million Americans have not tested positive for the virus. Further, if we have suffered 210K deaths as of yesterday, 329,790,000 people in the US have not died from the virus. How does info like that keep a Covid positive person from infecting me if we are on an elevator together. Do infected people have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 7, 2020 #218 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Elevatorman said: Exposure time usually has to be at least 10 minutes. I've never been on an elevator in my life for that long. (this is from the University of Mississippi Medical Center): Q: How close do you have to be to someone who is positive or shedding the virus to become infected, and for how long? What if they have no symptoms? A: Close contact is defined as being within approximately 6 feet of someone who is positive for COVID-19, including those who may not yet be showing symptoms. Experts say that contact with someone positive for the virus for about 10 minutes or longer can result in transmission. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaver John Posted October 7, 2020 #219 Share Posted October 7, 2020 I guess my question is If it is so easy for the Normal, everyday person to get all the medical care that is needed to treat Covid 19, then why are 1000 of us dying a day. Seems strange, must be so other reason I guess. Oh, we will not be traveling on a cruise ship until 2022 to answer the question of when do we plan to cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzsnooze Posted October 7, 2020 #220 Share Posted October 7, 2020 The vaccine will not end the pandemic because many people like myself do not feel it is safe. It was pushed through without fully testing and documenting the efficacy and safety. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoak Posted October 7, 2020 #221 Share Posted October 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, cruzsnooze said: The vaccine will not end the pandemic because many people like myself do not feel it is safe. It was pushed through without fully testing and documenting the efficacy and safety. Those who do not vaccinate will probably not be allowed to sail. If you think the experimental stud you heard about last week are available to anyone I have a bridge to sell you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfaaa Posted October 7, 2020 #222 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 hours ago, d9704011 said: Maybe.... all the average citizen needs is access to an army of doctors, unlimited funds, US military hospitals, helicopter rides from home to the hospital, etc, etc... Then, cruising can start.... woohoo!!! Rather than getting jealous, you too can have all these special perks and more if you become the President. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzsnooze Posted October 7, 2020 #223 Share Posted October 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, memoak said: Those who do not vaccinate will probably not be allowed to sail. If you think the experimental stud you heard about last week are available to anyone I have a bridge to sell you Then I'll sit home safely and wait out the pandemic. I'll watch how the numbers of infected and deaths are going before deciding what I will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted October 7, 2020 #224 Share Posted October 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, sfaaa said: Rather than getting jealous, you too can have all these special perks and more if you become the President. Can’t, not a US citizen. Anyway, I have all that socialized medicine here in Canada and I don’t want to give that up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted October 7, 2020 #225 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 hours ago, d9704011 said: Miraculous. Now, if people could just start wearing 25 cent masks to help stop the spreading wouldn’t that be truly something to behold? Those 25 cent masks are only good for one wearing. They should be replaced after a short period of time. 330 million people, four masks per day, that's 1,320,000,000 masks per day. At 25 cents each, that's $330,000,000 per day. Since the majority are improperly worn, it would accomplish nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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