Jim and Monika Posted November 17, 2020 #1 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Here's what I saw today. https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/ship-operations/nclh-test-cruises-could-start-early-january-full-fleet-ramp-may-take-6-9-months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 17, 2020 #2 Share Posted November 17, 2020 If you read yesterday’s Cruise Critic article that includes this and more, from FDR, it sounded as if the entire Alaska sailing season for NCLH was questionable. The comments in the article are about NCLH as a whole. We don’t know when any Oceania ships, in particular, may go on a trial run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 17, 2020 #3 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Of the ships that might sail in US waters, do any current sold cruises meet the CDC allowed length and port restrictions? Could Oceania reasonably fill a ship , to even reduced capacity, for a 7 day cruise to nowhere in late Feb or March? If they cancel all those cruises now to start reselling newly authorized cruises, they’ll have to make all the refunds or FCC now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BSR Posted November 17, 2020 #4 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Jim and Monika said: Here's what I saw today. https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/ship-operations/nclh-test-cruises-could-start-early-january-full-fleet-ramp-may-take-6-9-months Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted November 18, 2020 #5 Share Posted November 18, 2020 It will be interesting to see if the Europe O cruises for 2021 will go ahead and start up as planned since the ships are already over there and don't need to come to the US. I'm scheduled on Marina Baltic Aug. 29 and she is currently in Genoa. Marina should be ready to go as soon as the European ports allow it. The first Med cruise is scheduled for April 23 from Rome, then she moves to the Baltic June 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 18, 2020 #6 Share Posted November 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, susiesan said: It will be interesting to see if the Europe O cruises for 2021 will go ahead and start up as planned since the ships are already over there and don't need to come to the US. I'm scheduled on Marina Baltic Aug. 29 and she is currently in Genoa. Marina should be ready to go as soon as the European ports allow it. The first Med cruise is scheduled for April 23 from Rome, then she moves to the Baltic June 3. I agree with part of this. I don’t believe that the ships will sail in US waters anytime soon. The part tbd is when will the EU relax it’s seven (7) day cruise limit on the ships? Those 4/23/21 cruises you referenced are not seven dayers! There will come a time , early next year when the EU and CDC must tell the lines they can sail the longer cruises or not. If not, a lot of cruises will be cancelled and either new shorter ones scheduled and sold, or they walk away from that season of cruises altogether . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranquility Base Posted November 18, 2020 #7 Share Posted November 18, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, susiesan said: It will be interesting to see if the Europe O cruises for 2021 will go ahead and start up as planned since the ships are already over there and don't need to come to the US. If some do restart, then there will likely initially be restrictions on counties of residence for passengers permitted onboard. Edited November 18, 2020 by Tranquility Base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted November 18, 2020 #8 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just now, Tranquility Base said: If some do restart, then there will likely be restrictions on counties of residence for passengers permitted onboard. If Americans are restricted from O's cruises in Europe then the ships will be mostly empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 18, 2020 #9 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Tranquility Base said: If some do restart, then there will likely initially be restrictions on counties of residence for passengers permitted onboard. If: 1. The vaccines are available, and; 2. You get the vaccine, then; They’ll gladly let you in, imo. April might be a push, July shouldn’t be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted November 18, 2020 #10 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 hours ago, pinotlover said: If: 1. The vaccines are available, and; 2. You get the vaccine, then; They’ll gladly let you in, imo. April might be a push, July shouldn’t be a problem. Thats why I am betting big time on last week in September into October on Marina According to the distribution plans I ought to be in the second tier to get vaccine by Feb There are forecasts 3 to 5 more vaccines nearing approval world wide... Confidence is high... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GICNJC Posted November 19, 2020 #11 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Vacines for the general population won't start until second quarter due to manufacturer production limits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 19, 2020 #12 Share Posted November 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, GICNJC said: Vacines for the general population won't start until second quarter due to manufacturer production limits 2nd Quarter = April - June. Most sailing won’t start up until July. Oh, that’s seven (7) months! You know right in the middle of that 6-9 months window foreseen by FDR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted November 19, 2020 #13 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Thanks, that sounds about right and I think things will start to normalize (not have all the virus protocols) around the second quarter of 2022. That gives time for the vaccines to significantly reduce the spread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted November 19, 2020 #14 Share Posted November 19, 2020 11 hours ago, KirkNC said: Thanks, that sounds about right and I think things will start to normalize (not have all the virus protocols) around the second quarter of 2022. That gives time for the vaccines to significantly reduce the spread. Yes, a good time frame to shoot for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlevin Posted November 19, 2020 #15 Share Posted November 19, 2020 15 hours ago, GICNJC said: Vacines for the general population won't start until second quarter due to manufacturer production limits Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 19, 2020 #16 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 hour ago, mrlevin said: Source? It’s been stated by Fauci and numerous other professionals in the business! 1. 1st responders - Dec and early January 2a. Those highly vulnerable in nursing homes or having other conditions. Other health care providers. 2b. Over 65. February-March 3. Students and Teachers 4. General Population Sometime 2nd Quarter. precise timing will be dependent upon the number of vaccines approved and production capacities. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted November 19, 2020 #17 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Looks like the earliest cruises will be full of a bunch of old farts only 😉🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted November 19, 2020 #18 Share Posted November 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, susiesan said: Looks like the earliest cruises will be full of a bunch of old farts only 😉🙄 Except some of us old effing farts may be smart enough to wait and see what kind of results we get. I would no more cruise in early '21 than I would in late '21. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted November 19, 2020 #19 Share Posted November 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, susiesan said: Looks like the earliest cruises will be full of a bunch of old farts only 😉🙄 You have something against old people? They are who made this country great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted November 19, 2020 #20 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, RJB said: You have something against old people? They are who made this country great. I myself am one of the old farts, over 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted November 19, 2020 #21 Share Posted November 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, RJB said: You have something against old people? They are who made this country great. Yeah, but I guess they don't get to do it again, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 19, 2020 #22 Share Posted November 19, 2020 55 minutes ago, susiesan said: Looks like the earliest cruises will be full of a bunch of old farts only 😉🙄 😂 looking at the demographics, that makes cruises on Oceania and Regent more subscribed that Disney or Carnival! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted November 19, 2020 #23 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 hour ago, ORV said: Yeah, but I guess they don't get to do it again, huh? It is the younger ones that get to do it now. Most of us are too tired to do it again. It is O.K. I know they will get it right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted November 20, 2020 #24 Share Posted November 20, 2020 16 hours ago, susiesan said: Looks like the earliest cruises will be full of a bunch of old farts only 😉🙄 Your assuming the crew can get vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkNC Posted November 20, 2020 #25 Share Posted November 20, 2020 18 hours ago, mrlevin said: Source? Just look at the math, we need 700 million doses just for the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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