HaveWeMetYet Posted December 2, 2020 #1 Share Posted December 2, 2020 OTTAWA — Canada will not agree to lifting a ban on non-essential travel with the United States until the coronavirus outbreak is significantly under control around the world, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Tuesday. Trudeau’s comments were a clear indication that the border restrictions will last well into 2021. The two neighbours agreed to the ban in March and have rolled it over on a monthly basis ever since. Full article. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/trudeau-indicates-canada-u-s-border-restrictions-to-last-a-long-time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULCajunCruiser Posted December 2, 2020 #2 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Well, I'm not loving that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdr69 Posted December 2, 2020 #3 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Yes so we cant travel to the United States BY CAR until the whole world is better but flying in is and has not been a problem this whole time. Where is the logic behind this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pe4all Posted December 2, 2020 #4 Share Posted December 2, 2020 One of the nicest cruises we took was from NY to Canada. Another glitch for cruising to overcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellfree Posted December 2, 2020 #5 Share Posted December 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, kdr69 said: Yes so we cant travel to the United States BY CAR until the whole world is better but flying in is and has not been a problem this whole time. Where is the logic behind this? Another "sound" decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted December 2, 2020 #6 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I still haven't figured out why Canadian citizens can travel back and forth across the border by car and yet Americans can't pass through, or am I misunderstanding the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaveWeMetYet Posted December 2, 2020 Author #7 Share Posted December 2, 2020 31 minutes ago, Mary229 said: I still haven't figured out why Canadian citizens can travel back and forth across the border by car and yet Americans can't pass through, or am I misunderstanding the rule. The US does not have border restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted December 2, 2020 #8 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, HaveWeMetYet said: The US does not have border restrictions. Yeah, but if you let your own citizenry mix with US citizens and freely go back an forth that certainly does not keep the virus away. It doesn't make sense unless I misunderstand the rule. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgRockCruiser Posted December 3, 2020 #9 Share Posted December 3, 2020 16 hours ago, kdr69 said: Yes so we cant travel to the United States BY CAR until the whole world is better but flying in is and has not been a problem this whole time. Where is the logic behind this? If you enter Canada (by plane or otherwise), you are required to self-isolate/quarantine for two weeks. I imagine the land-border closings are to suppress casual day-trippers, who obviously aren't going to self-isolate. If you fly, your ticket will show your planned return date. 15 hours ago, Mary229 said: I still haven't figured out why Canadian citizens can travel back and forth across the border by car and yet Americans can't pass through, or am I misunderstanding the rule. Canadians are required to quarantine too, not just non-residents. And as far as I am aware, the border closing is bi-lateral, so the US has closed its land borders to non-essential traffic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earthworm Jim Posted December 4, 2020 #10 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I read there's a completely legal service where a company flies Canadians on a 15 minute flight from Quebec to Plattsburgh, NY while the company ships their cars over the border to them by truck and they're soon on their way to Florida or wherever by car. Doesn't make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted December 4, 2020 #11 Share Posted December 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Earthworm Jim said: I read there's a completely legal service where a company flies Canadians on a 15 minute flight from Quebec to Plattsburgh, NY while the company ships their cars over the border to them by truck and they're soon on their way to Florida or wherever by car. Doesn't make much sense. Forget about whether the cars or RVs get across the border, it’s about the people. Strangely enough, the US permits Canadians to fly in without much quarantine requirement(s), if any, in most states. So, truckers are simply doing what they are permitted to do at the land border and snowbirds are doing what they’re permitted to do. It doesn’t work for Americans who want to come to Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsinShow Posted December 12, 2020 #12 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Hollywood is exempt though as they continue to allow filming in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatsinShow Posted December 12, 2020 #13 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/2/2020 at 2:31 PM, HaveWeMetYet said: The US does not have border restrictions. Yes they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunsetme Posted January 24, 2021 #14 Share Posted January 24, 2021 interesting how the Canadian snow birds seem to enter the country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coquitlam Cruiser Posted February 4, 2021 #15 Share Posted February 4, 2021 Just announced Canada ports closed to cruise ships to Feb 22 at the earliest. Alaska and New England not happening this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyman Posted February 14, 2021 #16 Share Posted February 14, 2021 So if I have an Alaska cruise departing from Vancouver this year....I should assume it's cancelled? I haven't heard anything from Celebrity yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted February 14, 2021 #17 Share Posted February 14, 2021 4 hours ago, carlyman said: So if I have an Alaska cruise departing from Vancouver this year....I should assume it's cancelled? I haven't heard anything from Celebrity yet. Since all Canadian ports and Canadian waters are closed to cruise ships until 28th Feb 2022, I suggest it is guaranteed that Alaska 21 cruises are not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlyman Posted February 16, 2021 #18 Share Posted February 16, 2021 I guess that's why I'm surprised I haven't heard anything from Celebrity yet. On 2/13/2021 at 8:56 PM, Heidi13 said: Since all Canadian ports and Canadian waters are closed to cruise ships until 28th Feb 2022, I suggest it is guaranteed that Alaska 21 cruises are not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlameCanada Posted February 16, 2021 #19 Share Posted February 16, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 1:25 PM, sunsetme said: interesting how the Canadian snow birds seem to enter the country Your government lets them in, everyone pre-clears US immigration on Canadian soil. If the US government didn't want them there, they would have been refused entry by immigration. If you have concerns about that, ask your government about their policy in respect to foreign travelers and entry requirements. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Milhouse Posted March 24, 2021 #20 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Alaskan Senators Murkowski and Sullivan introducing a bill (Alaska Tourism Recovery Act) to try to temporarily alleviate the need for a Canadian port of call as essentially required by the Passenger Vessel Services Act might save part of the Alaskan cruise season while freaking out BC ports of call, hoping it won't be made permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted March 24, 2021 #21 Share Posted March 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Milhouse said: Alaskan Senators Murkowski and Sullivan introducing a bill (Alaska Tourism Recovery Act) to try to temporarily alleviate the need for a Canadian port of call as essentially required by the Passenger Vessel Services Act might save part of the Alaskan cruise season while freaking out BC ports of call, hoping it won't be made permanent. This was mentioned on one of the other Boards, probably the Alaska one. Apparently they are trying to change the definition of a "Foreign Voyage", so that a voyage to Alaska from another US Port is considered to be a foreign voyage, which would negate the need to stop at a BC Port. As signatory to the relevant IMO Conventions, the US is required to implement them into their laws, so to change the definition of a "Foreign Voyage" would first require a change at IMO, which isn't known for speedy changes. The other option is for Alaska to leave the USA. If either option was likely, it probably wouldn't be completed in 6 months. Best summation is 2 polititions saying to the locals that we tried to get the ships back, so they will be looked upon favourably at the next election. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseryyc Posted March 24, 2021 #22 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Heidi13 said: Best summation is 2 polititions saying to the locals that we tried to get the ships back, so they will be looked upon favourably at the next election. You just hit the nail on the head! By the time any changes are made to the law, it will be at least late into 2022 and ships will most likely have been welcomed back to Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoLoco1 Posted June 19, 2021 #23 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Simple-mindedness. The virus has covered the planet now, vaccines ARE available. I notice Wal-marts are full, but Canada not. Hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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