mcrcruiser Posted March 12, 2021 Author #701 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, CruiserBruce said: Not talking about the drug company, talking about the business administrating the injection. In our case, Sutter Health. Ah but they are not in our area ,so no phone calls ,again to my knowledge o we would have heard about it through Next Door Neighbor web site . People there posting that they are having difficulty with securing appointments . However ,they do exist in your area in Calif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted March 12, 2021 #702 Share Posted March 12, 2021 My experience was I had gotten fed up with the process and quit worrying about it. Then my sister encouraged me to give it one more try. So I went to the state list of hubs and applied at every single one within a 90 mile radius. I signed up for email, phone and text alerts. Then I forgot about it. 48 hours later I was scheduled and I traveled 20 miles to a rather small nearby town and got the vaccine. My advice is since you don’t want to go through the rigamarole then just quit worrying about it, call your local pharmacy weekly and get it there when available. Don’t worry you are not missing out. I just read an article published today by Forbes that each of the various manufacturers are planning to have 2 billion doses by June. That is each including the Chinese, Moderna, Pfizer and JNJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimum Posted March 12, 2021 #703 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, mcrcruiser said: Ah but they are not in our area ,so no phone calls ,again to my knowledge o we would have heard about it through Next Door Neighbor web site . People there posting that they are having difficulty with securing appointments . However ,they do exist in your area in Calif I am in Rancho Bernardo and have scheduled neighbors for their vaccine. Those that have been cancelled by sites that have closed due to lack of vaccine have received either a phone call or email and have been rescheduled. As has been mentioned many times before you need to call 211 and explain your situation and have them assist you in making an appt. You are going to get further behind as they are opening another category on Monday. If you are retired military in your age group there are appts available at Pt Loma. Then again you won’t drive out of your neighborhood. I suggest having your children in LA help you with securing a vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 12, 2021 Author #704 Share Posted March 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, kiwimum said: I am in Rancho Bernardo and have scheduled neighbors for their vaccine. Those that have been cancelled by sites that have closed due to lack of vaccine have received either a phone call or email and have been rescheduled. As has been mentioned many times before you need to call 211 and explain your situation and have them assist you in making an appt. You are going to get further behind as they are opening another category on Monday. If you are retired military in your age group there are appts available at Pt Loma. Then again you won’t drive out of your neighborhood. I suggest having your children in LA help you with securing a vaccine. We just vended the call to 211 San diego . A very pleasant fella .Neil told me that there has been disruption in vaccine supplies for the last 2 weeks . He also stated that the Del Mar lpcation is closed to March 14th .We truely did not believe that there was no shortages of vaccines & Neil confirmed our suspicion .We hope that the supply chain will castly improve by April /May for all of us who seek to be vaccinated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimum Posted March 12, 2021 #705 Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: We just vended the call to 211 San diego . A very pleasant fella .Neil told me that there has been disruption in vaccine supplies for the last 2 weeks . He also stated that the Del Mar lpcation is closed to March 14th .We truely did not believe that there was no shortages of vaccines & Neil confirmed our suspicion .We hope that the supply chain will castly improve by April /May for all of us who seek to be vaccinated Thank you for responding. Keep trying, Del Mar is within your immediate neighborhood. If you keep trying 211 will get you an appt as you say you have major underlying conditions. San Diego vaccines are short because of the focus on under served communities, focusing on 2nd doses, and all the education staff being vaccinated. Slight progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 12, 2021 Author #706 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, kiwimum said: Thank you for responding. Keep trying, Del Mar is within your immediate neighborhood. If you keep trying 211 will get you an appt as you say you have major underlying conditions. San Diego vaccines are short because of the focus on under served communities, focusing on 2nd doses, and all the education staff being vaccinated. Slight progress. We will keep trying .For us the JnJ sounds ti be our best option because of hopefully lower side effects .My sister in AZ got her 2 Pfizer shots & on the 2nd shot wound up in bed for 2 days with chilld ,fever & boy aches .She is 74 . Thus ,we decided that the JnJ could be better because it is a one shot vaccine Here is some information on the current expected 3 to 4 month vaccine protection . but ,what counts more is getting most every one vaccinated as quickly as possible https://www.indystar.com/story/news/health/2021/03/05/covid-vaccine-immunity-wont-last-forever-but-doesnt-need/4595171001/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwimum Posted March 12, 2021 #707 Share Posted March 12, 2021 25 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: We will keep trying .For us the JnJ sounds ti be our best option because of hopefully lower side effects .My sister in AZ got her 2 Pfizer shots & on the 2nd shot wound up in bed for 2 days with chilld ,fever & boy aches .She is 74 . Thus ,we decided that the JnJ could be better because it is a one shot vaccine Here is some information on the current expected 3 to 4 month vaccine protection . but ,what counts more is getting most every one vaccinated as quickly as possible https://www.indystar.com/story/news/health/2021/03/05/covid-vaccine-immunity-wont-last-forever-but-doesnt-need/4595171001/ Please do not hold out for your ‘preferred’ vaccination. 2 days of chills and fever are far better. As all health channels say, just get the vaccine available. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Roz Posted March 12, 2021 #708 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Agree with @kiwimum, take what's available as soon as it's available. The Pfizer or Moderna vaccines offer more coverage for older people. Just because someone had side effects doesn't mean you will, and getting J&J doesn't guarantee you won't. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 12, 2021 Author #709 Share Posted March 12, 2021 It is a difficult decision because when you are our ages , all things tend to take on different physical impacts vs younger people . Thus ,it seems to me there is no panacea . My wife has asthma & some other physical difficulties . I have diabetes type 2 & other physical limitations . Thus ,we have reasons for concern about which vaccine seems to be best for us ,especially that my younger sister had those 2 days of bad side effects We rather be safe than sorry ,this is the rational decision to vie for the JnJ vaccine . It give immunity against getting very sick & death like the Pfizer & Moderna vaccines .The other issues is how long in months are we protected even with the vaccine .There seems to be no answer yet to that question for any of us .Perhaps science will have a better answer to that question in the bear future ,hopefully The main reason to get as manny people vaccinated as quickly as possible are one to reach herd immunity & secondly to stop the virus from new mutations ;which may or may not be a feasable goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising-along Posted March 12, 2021 #710 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Roz said: Just because someone had side effects doesn't mean you will, and getting J&J doesn't guarantee you won't. I agree. And I can't help but wonder if the side effects might be worse with J&J since it's all in one dose. I don't know and haven't heard anything to say one way or the other yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 12, 2021 Author #711 Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cruising-along said: I agree. And I can't help but wonder if the side effects might be worse with J&J since it's all in one dose. I don't know and haven't heard anything to say one way or the other yet. My wife's cousin in New York State is 68 & had the JnJ vaccine with no side effects .Most side effects even in the test cases came during the 2nd vaccine shots .Others on this thread have stated side effects from the 2nd vaccine injection .Only the test of time tells all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 13, 2021 Author #712 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Still no availability for us .It is Saturday ,March13th . I keep checking the web site ,myturn.ca.gov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 13, 2021 Author #713 Share Posted March 13, 2021 We even trued to go out to a 50 mile range & MO availability of the vaccines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted March 13, 2021 #714 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Have you called your doctor? They can feed your information into the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idiebabe Posted March 13, 2021 #715 Share Posted March 13, 2021 20 hours ago, mcrcruiser said: My wife's cousin in New York State is 68 & had the JnJ vaccine with no side effects .Most side effects even in the test cases came during the 2nd vaccine shots .Others on this thread have stated side effects from the 2nd vaccine injection .Only the test of time tells all I have three friends in NJ who had J&J. The one is in her mid-40's and had side effects of flu-like symptoms. The other two Friends are 69 yrs. old and both had similar side effects of flu-like symptoms. They lasted 24 hours similar to the side effects some get with Moderna and Pfizer. We had Moderna 1st Dose (2nd Dose on 25th). My DH had no symptoms and I had a headache (lasted about 24 hours). I have Customers who are in their 80's and had two Doses of Pfizer and only a sore arm both times. My Brother had side effects with 1st Dose of Moderna (he's 74) and no side effects with 2nd Dose. Bottom line it seems to all depend on the person and not the Vaccine, JMO! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 13, 2021 Author #716 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Mary229 said: Have you called your doctor? They can feed your information into the system. Our doctor can not help us here .we already asked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 13, 2021 Author #717 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, idiebabe said: I have three friends in NJ who had J&J. The one is in her mid-40's and had side effects of flu-like symptoms. The other two Friends are 69 yrs. old and both had similar side effects of flu-like symptoms. They lasted 24 hours similar to the side effects some get with Moderna and Pfizer. We had Moderna 1st Dose (2nd Dose on 25th). My DH had no symptoms and I had a headache (lasted about 24 hours). I have Customers who are in their 80's and had two Doses of Pfizer and only a sore arm both times. My Brother had side effects with 1st Dose of Moderna (he's 74) and no side effects with 2nd Dose. Bottom line it seems to all depend on the person and not the Vaccine, JMO! That is interesting .One needs to ponder why some people are getting side effects from the vaccines while others are not getting any side effects . The only current conclusion with out medical histories is their systems abilities to fight off any disease .A higher immune system might be better to accept the vaccines with out side effects other than a sore arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 13, 2021 Author #718 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Just now, mcrcruiser said: That is interesting .One needs to ponder why some people are getting side effects from the vaccines while others are not getting any side effects . The only current conclusion with out medical histories is their systems abilities to fight off any disease .A higher immune system might be better to accept the vaccines with out side effects other than a sore arm My sister has a very low Tolerance to any medication & her immune system ivery low .Thus ,she has those flu like aches ,fever ie for 48 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted March 13, 2021 #719 Share Posted March 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: Our doctor can not help us here .we already asked That is too bad. My mother was able to get hers in the first week of January because her doctor put her name on a hospital list in December Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 13, 2021 Author #720 Share Posted March 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mary229 said: That is too bad. My mother was able to get hers in the first week of January because her doctor put her name on a hospital list in December So it seems nothing works the same all over . Here our doctor makes no hospital calls . Thus ,if we were hospitalized other than surgery we would have a on site doctor who works in that hospital . Of course oir records would immediately transfer to the on site attending physician ,Still it is not the best way to get medical care imo . not having your own doctor . It is what it is in todays world 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisemom42 Posted March 13, 2021 #721 Share Posted March 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: That is interesting .One needs to ponder why some people are getting side effects from the vaccines while others are not getting any side effects . The only current conclusion with out medical histories is their systems abilities to fight off any disease .A higher immune system might be better to accept the vaccines with out side effects other than a sore arm Actually doctors think it is the opposite. If you have a robust immune system, you are more likely to experience some of the side effects that are related to the typical response to infectious diseases (e.g., flu) such as a fever, muscle soreness, tiredness. It has been noted that the elderly are actually less likely to experience these effects to a great degree, and that is partially because the effectiveness of your immune response tends to diminish as you age. (Of course, I am not talking about allergic responses, that is different.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 13, 2021 Author #722 Share Posted March 13, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, cruisemom42 said: Actually doctors think it is the opposite. If you have a robust immune system, you are more likely to experience some of the side effects that are related to the typical response to infectious diseases (e.g., flu) such as a fever, muscle soreness, tiredness. It has been noted that the elderly are actually less likely to experience these effects to a great degree, and that is partially because the effectiveness of your immune response tends to diminish as you age. (Of course, I am not talking about allergic responses, that is different.) In my sisters case ,she is 74 with a very low immune system (she cannot tolerate a lot of medicines ,she has passed out frequently ie --now getting a barrage of tests to find causes ) but ,she had 48 hours of bad side effects from the 2nd Pfizer vaccine injection .she was in bed 2 days .Thus ,it is not really true that the older people might not get those side effects .We truly are all different .I know that not being ah=ble to be in the local gym 3 or 4 days per week has dramatically hurt my system .this I do know for sure .what I don't know is how the vaccines would impact us Edited March 13, 2021 by mcrcruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted March 13, 2021 #723 Share Posted March 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: In my sisters case ,she is 74 with a very low immune system (she cannot tolerate a lot of medicines ,she has passed out frequently ie --now getting a barrage of tests to find causes ) but ,she had 48 hours of bad side effects from the 2nd Pfizer vaccine injection .she was in bed 2 days .Thus ,it is not really true that the older people might not get those side effects .We truly are all different .I know that not being ah=ble to be in the local gym 3 or 4 days per week has dramatically hurt my system .this I do know for sure .what I don't know is how the vaccines would impact us I think much of this disease and the immune response to this disease is pure and simple genetics, if so, then the vaccine response would be tied to genetics also. I heard that supposition from a physician early on in this crisis. Didn't the Chinese say long ago that they found men fared better than women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted March 13, 2021 Author #724 Share Posted March 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mary229 said: I think much of this disease and the immune response to this disease is pure and simple genetics, if so, then the vaccine response would be tied to genetics also. I heard that supposition from a physician early on in this crisis. Didn't the Chinese say long ago that they found men fared better than women? Science is still learning more about this virus every day .Yet they have not come to many conclusions . some things are apparent & true while other issues about the virus are still unknown . Imo ,this virus mutates frequently & because of that issue we may be required to take booster shots each year liking to the flu vaccine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted March 13, 2021 #725 Share Posted March 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, mcrcruiser said: Science is still learning more about this virus every day .Yet they have not come to many conclusions . some things are apparent & true while other issues about the virus are still unknown . Imo ,this virus mutates frequently & because of that issue we may be required to take booster shots each year liking to the flu vaccine Absolutely, we will need a booster, at least for those of us in tiers 1a,b and c. It does not even need to mutate to require a booster. Not all vaccines impart lifetime immunity, most flu vaccines do not impart lifetime immunity. That is the issue, not the mutations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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