Rare Thenagers Posted July 18, 2021 #1 Share Posted July 18, 2021 I have heard that RCL is expecting these rules to be updated soon? I was thinking it was tied to the lawsuit in Florida but maybe CDC didn’t want to do it until a verdict from the appeals court? I know I am being overly hopeful but fingers crossed for my July 26th sailing? I’ll deal if I have too! I just would rather have a more normal experience but locked into these dates and such! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barbeyg Posted July 18, 2021 #2 Share Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) I guess for now we are all at the mercy of the CDC’s masking rules that could go either way. The CSO will stand for now. Hopefully, as they have on land, the rules will relax more for those vaccinated. Edited July 18, 2021 by barbeyg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted July 18, 2021 #3 Share Posted July 18, 2021 The masking requirements are part of the CDC requirements for sailing out of a US port. So, it is in effect for cruises out of Florida and other states (e.g., Alaska cruises). The Adventure of the Seas, which sails from Nassau, does not have any masking requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PTC DAWG Posted July 18, 2021 #4 Share Posted July 18, 2021 The more people vaccinated, the less likely we have draconian mask measure on cruises, airports, etc..so in other words, if not vaccinated, get it done. 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash2bear Posted July 18, 2021 #5 Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Thenagers said: I have heard that RCL is expecting these rules to be updated soon? I was thinking it was tied to the lawsuit in Florida but maybe CDC didn’t want to do it until a verdict from the appeals court? I know I am being overly hopeful but fingers crossed for my July 26th sailing? I’ll deal if I have too! I just would rather have a more normal experience but locked into these dates and such! CDC won their appeal...now we wait to see if Florida takes it to the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emory2001 Posted July 18, 2021 #6 Share Posted July 18, 2021 3 hours ago, PTC DAWG said: The more people vaccinated, the less likely we have draconian mask measure on cruises, airports, etc..so in other words, if not vaccinated, get it done. Exactly. I know there are availability issues in some countries, but if you hate the masking and other restrictions, want to cruise freely, and are able to get a vaccine (without a documented medical reason not to, and with availability), then you do it. The longer it takes everyone to do it, the longer these restrictions will remain. That’s reality. I was originally vaccinated through “crossover” shots in the Novavax trial, but because it’s taking a while for it to get approved, I had to get Pfizer too, in order to have vaccinated status for cruising. It was no big deal to me (and with all these variants, I’m not upset about being double vax’d, if one brand covers certain variants better and another covers other variants better, great). Similarly, if I were in the situation where I’d had 1 Pfizer + 1 Moderna, I’d seek out the second shot of either one (whichever’s easiest and available) and get an updated vax card with the two dates of the same brand shot, if it meant being considered vax’d for cruising. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted July 19, 2021 #7 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Considering that 1 out of 5 new US Covid infections are coming out of Florida, no one can predict what will happen. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted July 19, 2021 #8 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, PhoenixCruiser said: Considering that 1 out of 5 new US Covid infections are coming out of Florida, no one can predict what will happen. I just saw that today in the paper. And I thought, Oh Great. Edited July 19, 2021 by Coralc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Comp Chick Posted July 19, 2021 #9 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 hours ago, PhoenixCruiser said: Considering that 1 out of 5 new US Covid infections are coming out of Florida, no one can predict what will happen. That shouldn’t be a shock to anyone. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotsauce126 Posted July 19, 2021 #10 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Casino Comp Chick said: That shouldn’t be a shock to anyone. Right because Florida has 22 million people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cello56 Posted July 19, 2021 #11 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 hour ago, hotsauce126 said: Right because Florida has 22 million people Florida's population makes up 6.6% of the USA population. (22 million out of 333 million - roughly) Florida is currently making up 20% of all new USA Covid-19 cases last week. 16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat Cruisin Couple Posted July 19, 2021 #12 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, cello56 said: Florida's population makes up 6.6% of the USA population. (22 million out of 333 million - roughly) Florida is currently making up 20% of all new USA Covid-19 cases last week. They are over achievers! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted July 19, 2021 #13 Share Posted July 19, 2021 23 hours ago, Thenagers said: I have heard that RCL is expecting these rules to be updated soon? I was thinking it was tied to the lawsuit in Florida but maybe CDC didn’t want to do it until a verdict from the appeals court? I know I am being overly hopeful but fingers crossed for my July 26th sailing? I’ll deal if I have too! I just would rather have a more normal experience but locked into these dates and such! Carnival isn't requiring masks once onboard for those that are vaccinated. At least they weren't as of the last couple of days so wasn't due to the CDC. There are several videos about the first Carnival cruises and how people take off their masks when they board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted July 19, 2021 #14 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BND said: Carnival isn't requiring masks once onboard for those that are vaccinated. At least they weren't as of the last couple of days so wasn't due to the CDC. There are several videos about the first Carnival cruises and how people take off their masks when they board. The cdc says vaccinated cruises dont require masks. Carnival is doing vaccinated so does not require masks. Per the cdc regs. Rcl choose to do unvaccinated cruises is why they have to wear masks. Edited July 19, 2021 by firefly333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted July 19, 2021 #15 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, firefly333 said: The cdc says vaccinated cruises dont require masks. Carnival is doing vaccinated so does not require masks. Per the cdc regs. Rcl choose to do unvaccinated cruises is why they have to wear masks. I'd forgotten that, but the positive rates are almost identical, virtually none. I know there's been a couple on RCI, but in unvaccinated people who have mask requirements. So, that says a lot about whether masking makes any difference or is necessary on a cruise with the other current rules in place. Edited July 19, 2021 by BND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted July 19, 2021 #16 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, BND said: And, the positive rates are almost identical, virtually none. I know there's been a couple on RCI, but in unvaccinated people who have mask requirements. So, that says a lot about whether masking makes any difference or is necessary on a cruise with the other current rules in place. Lol I'm not saying it helps or doesnt help. Talk to the cdc who put the 95% rate up. If you cut the kids and cruise above 95% cdc considers that vaccinated so masks arent required. I keep hoping rcl does the same so they too can get rid of masks. Just saying it is the cdc requirements.. I'm not a mask fan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Thenagers Posted July 19, 2021 Author #17 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, firefly333 said: Lol I'm not saying it helps or doesnt help. Talk to the cdc who put the 95% rate up. If you cut the kids and cruise above 95% cdc considers that vaccinated so masks arent required. I keep hoping rcl does the same so they too can get rid of masks. Just saying it is the cdc requirements.. I'm not a mask fan. I heard from a certain blogger that he heard straight from the head honchos at RCL that they were expecting changes to the mask guidelines soon. That was 2 weeks ago. I’m just wishing they would lower the threshold so vaccinated are exempt. . Wishful thinking at this point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted July 19, 2021 #18 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, firefly333 said: Lol I'm not saying it helps or doesnt help. Talk to the cdc who put the 95% rate up. If you cut the kids and cruise above 95% cdc considers that vaccinated so masks arent required. I keep hoping rcl does the same so they too can get rid of masks. Just saying it is the cdc requirements.. I'm not a mask fan. It just seems the CDC makes it up as they go along. 95% is kind of random. It could just as easily be 70% since that is considered heard immunity for Covid. Fortunately, the masking policy isn't as bad as it could have been considering the original discussion was pretty much full time wear. We're not cruising til the end of Nov so by then the CSO expires and hopefully so does the policy. Edited July 19, 2021 by BND 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lazydayz Posted July 19, 2021 #19 Share Posted July 19, 2021 22 minutes ago, BND said: Carnival isn't requiring masks once onboard for those that are vaccinated. At least they weren't as of the last couple of days so wasn't due to the CDC. There are several videos about the first Carnival cruises and how people take off their masks when they board. Just off the Carnival Horizon yesterday. No guests were required to wear masks anywhere onboard. We did have to mask up if you left the ship in the Dominican Republic, but it was not strictly enforced in the port area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 19, 2021 #20 Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Casino Comp Chick said: That shouldn’t be a shock to anyone. Last year at this time, FL, TX, AZ and CA made up nearly half of all the new cases in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 19, 2021 #21 Share Posted July 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Thenagers said: I heard from a certain blogger that he heard straight from the head honchos at RCL that they were expecting changes to the mask guidelines soon. That was 2 weeks ago. I’m just wishing they would lower the threshold so vaccinated are exempt. . Wishful thinking at this point! That was before the CDC won their stay on the nixing of the CSO. I'm actually expected MORE strict measures to be added to the CSO just because the CDC wants to spite Florida. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted July 19, 2021 #22 Share Posted July 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, lazydayz said: Just off the Carnival Horizon yesterday. No guests were required to wear masks anywhere onboard. We did have to mask up if you left the ship in the Dominican Republic, but it was not strictly enforced in the port area. I watch Parodeejay's YT videos so that's one of the places I'd seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted July 19, 2021 #23 Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, smokeybandit said: Last year at this time, FL, TX, AZ and CA made up nearly half of all the new cases in the country. But, what are the hospitalization and death rates in those states? I know in our state and specifically our county, deaths and hospitalizations are way down (basically zero in my county), even with a slight increase in cases. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted July 19, 2021 #24 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, BND said: But, what are the hospitalization and death rates in those states? I know in our state and specifically our county, deaths and hospitalizations are way down (basically zero in my county), even with a slight increase in cases. Yes, hospitalizations are down in comparison to case rises. The same has been seen in the UK, too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted July 19, 2021 #25 Share Posted July 19, 2021 21 hours ago, ash2bear said: CDC won their appeal...now we wait to see if Florida takes it to the next level. All the decision of the court of appeals does is temporarily stay the injunction from the original judge until August 12, when the CDC has to file their revised CSO position to the courts. No one won anything, nor will they until this goes to trial. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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