Rare uktog Posted July 26, 2023 #501 Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 hours ago, florisdekort said: Third time lucky? Join us 20 October 🙂 Would be lovely to see you again! That would be fun - but first we need to see our refunds etc 😃. I see a card dispute looming 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare morpheusofthesea Posted July 26, 2023 #502 Share Posted July 26, 2023 "On Thursday Fincantieri delivered the liner to MSC with a two-week delay. The shipbuilder replaced Paroc’s products with other insulation material “where possible and “doubled the insulation where necessary,” it said. The remedies have been approved by regulatory bodies and no Paroc products will be used on other ships under construction, it added." FT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TER777 Posted July 26, 2023 #503 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Read this: "If you're unfortunate enough to be on an early sailing of a vessel that's canceled due to shipyard delays, you'll usually be offered a full refund plus some sort of "we're so sorry" bonus. In the case of the recently delayed Explora 1, passengers on the canceled maiden voyage were offered not just a full refund but also a credit for an entire future cruise." Full article: https://thepointsguy.com/guide/brand-new-cruise-ship-warnings/?utm_section=ts&utm_source=TPG Curated Cruise Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7346486&utm_usr=8bb5ec41110f4310eec4b4d9d2e70e0e8689d2ce107cc973fe0f36e681752eba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare morpheusofthesea Posted July 26, 2023 #504 Share Posted July 26, 2023 42 minutes ago, TER777 said: passengers on the canceled maiden voyage were offered not just a full refund but also a credit for an entire future cruise." "That sounds generous, for sure. But it isn't always easy using future cruise credits. Finding space on a later sailing that works with your schedule, assuming you want a similar itinerary and a similar type of cabin, is often a challenge. This is particularly true with a startup line like Explora Journeys, which only has one relatively small vessel in operation for now (and thus not a lot of inventory)." Is this credit for "an entire future cruise" the same category originally booked ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crickette Posted July 26, 2023 #505 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, TER777 said: Read this: "If you're unfortunate enough to be on an early sailing of a vessel that's canceled due to shipyard delays, you'll usually be offered a full refund plus some sort of "we're so sorry" bonus. In the case of the recently delayed Explora 1, passengers on the canceled maiden voyage were offered not just a full refund but also a credit for an entire future cruise." Full article: https://thepointsguy.com/guide/brand-new-cruise-ship-warnings/?utm_section=ts&utm_source=TPG Curated Cruise Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7346486&utm_usr=8bb5ec41110f4310eec4b4d9d2e70e0e8689d2ce107cc973fe0f36e681752eba I believe Explora did make that offer for the first maiden voyage that was cancelled - the May one. I think points guy didn't do his homework before posting. https://cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/2022/10/explora-i-introduction-pushed-back-to-july-2023/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare FlyerTalker Posted July 27, 2023 #506 Share Posted July 27, 2023 My own view of TPG is to take what's posted there with a grain or two of salt. And to do your own independent research. TPG is owned by Bankrate, which monetizes eyeballs through referral links and advertiser promotions. And Bankrate is owned by Red Ventures. Brian Kelly was the founder, and was pretty good about his material. However, he sold off the company years ago, and is now merely an occasional spokesman. IMO, the quality declined once he was no longer involved with management. Over the years, I've found them to be hit or miss. Sometimes, they are spot on. Sometime, less so. Caveat emptor. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uktog Posted July 27, 2023 #507 Share Posted July 27, 2023 6 hours ago, morpheusofthesea said: "That sounds generous, for sure. But it isn't always easy using future cruise credits. Finding space on a later sailing that works with your schedule, assuming you want a similar itinerary and a similar type of cabin, is often a challenge. This is particularly true with a startup line like Explora Journeys, which only has one relatively small vessel in operation for now (and thus not a lot of inventory)." Is this credit for "an entire future cruise" the same category originally booked ? Indeed the voucher is as I understand (though I’ve still not seen it) for only 30% of the value of the booking which you have to use for a future booking within 1 year at todays higher prices which reduces its value to under 20%. People who had cruises cancelled almost a year out got 40%. Those who had their May and June cruises cancelled six months out got 100%. Given how late the cancellation was, I feel Explora Journey have been so wrapped up in protecting the future sailings they treated those affected for 17 July rather shabbily. As I am still waiting for the refund and details of the voucher I’ll suspend final judgement on them until I see all the paperwork but on current form my November cruise with them (already paid for in full) may well be my first and last 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Haw Haw Posted July 27, 2023 #508 Share Posted July 27, 2023 1 hour ago, uktog said: Indeed the voucher is as I understand (though I’ve still not seen it) for only 30% of the value of the booking which you have to use for a future booking within 1 year at todays higher prices which reduces its value to under 20%. People who had cruises cancelled almost a year out got 40%. Those who had their May and June cruises cancelled six months out got 100%. Given how late the cancellation was, I feel Explora Journey have been so wrapped up in protecting the future sailings they treated those affected for 17 July rather shabbily. As I am still waiting for the refund and details of the voucher I’ll suspend final judgement on them until I see all the paperwork but on current form my November cruise with them (already paid for in full) may well be my first and last Take it from someone who has missed cruises due to delays in ship completion, owners going bankrupt, COVID shut downs etc, etc. No it's never nice...count your blessings that at the worst you will be reimbursed for your outlay with an option for a reduced price on the next one (I know, I know, your choice..yes it's inconvenient). I'm pretty sure that the cruise lines are not in a conspiracy to ruin our holiday plans. Might be time for you to start a new thread..for me I like to look forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uktog Posted July 27, 2023 #509 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I agree with looking forward there should certainly be new threads covering onboard experiences. However let’s not be only allowing the positive experiences of all sorts have to be covered and the experience of those subjected to the late cancellation is not entirely positive. Perhaps when I get my money back I will feel differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian cruiser1 Posted July 27, 2023 #510 Share Posted July 27, 2023 on another note - the ship is actually sailing now, en route to Portsmouth at a leisurely pace - probably without paying passengers, but maybe with reporters or travel agents => I'm sort of amazed we haven't seen anyone put up a video on Youtube, except for a 2 minute short that only shows the lobby and people perusing it on the day it was officially handed over to the company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare morpheusofthesea Posted July 27, 2023 #511 Share Posted July 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Belgian cruiser1 said: except for a 2 minute short that only shows the lobby and people perusing it on the day it was officially handed over to the company That might be because MSC is using the same internet service as on their other ships. I could not upload a 10 second video to CC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymfreak Posted July 27, 2023 #512 Share Posted July 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Belgian cruiser1 said: on another note - the ship is actually sailing now, en route to Portsmouth at a leisurely pace - probably without paying passengers, but maybe with reporters or travel agents => I'm sort of amazed we haven't seen anyone put up a video on Youtube, except for a 2 minute short that only shows the lobby and people perusing it on the day it was officially handed over to the company There are some Facebook posts other than the official ones that have posted (says with permission) both photos and short video clips of Explora now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajouni Posted July 27, 2023 #513 Share Posted July 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Belgian cruiser1 said: on another note - the ship is actually sailing now, en route to Portsmouth at a leisurely pace - probably without paying passengers, but maybe with reporters or travel agents => I'm sort of amazed we haven't seen anyone put up a video on Youtube, except for a 2 minute short that only shows the lobby and people perusing it on the day it was officially handed over to the company There are lots of pictures and videos on their FaceBook page posted by travelers on board now. Check it out. The ship is stunning. The menus are creative and tempting. We’re sailing September 2 & can’t wait to see this for ourselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongomeme Posted July 27, 2023 #514 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Ajouni, me too! Very excited for our sept 2 sail…looking forward to posts from everyone on the maiden voyage next week. Have a great trip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleandrews Posted July 27, 2023 #515 Share Posted July 27, 2023 We board on September 2 also! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Vineyard View Posted July 29, 2023 #516 Share Posted July 29, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 2:57 AM, uktog said: I agree with looking forward there should certainly be new threads covering onboard experiences. However let’s not be only allowing the positive experiences of all sorts have to be covered and the experience of those subjected to the late cancellation is not entirely positive. Perhaps when I get my money back I will feel differently I have read your threads over the years. You are a fair and unbiased reviewer. I am sincerely sorry that this happened to you. I hope it is all resolved quickly and fairly as I know you will report the truth. We are looking at Explora and hope these myriad of issues are concluded with class and a manner that sets them up for success. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted July 29, 2023 #517 Share Posted July 29, 2023 Explora I is just docking in Portsmouth. steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggie.1008 Posted July 29, 2023 #518 Share Posted July 29, 2023 I know one of the restaurants is extra charge but are all the others complimentary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daisy 123 Posted August 1, 2023 #519 Share Posted August 1, 2023 As far as I know you have to pay only for the "Anthology" and the private dining "Chef´s Kitchen". All the other restaurants are complimentary. Now there are many travel agents on the ship, mine too. He loves it 😉. You also can find Videos on youtube made by passengers and not animated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggie.1008 Posted August 2, 2023 #520 Share Posted August 2, 2023 I am a wine drinker so I would like to see the wines by the class in bars and restaurants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Waltershipman Posted August 4, 2023 #521 Share Posted August 4, 2023 How are people dressed casual or otherwise for both day and evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuiK Posted August 4, 2023 #522 Share Posted August 4, 2023 I would state, that the dresscode is casual up to smart casual outside of the pool areas. You only see a few (obviously) non paying guests in less than that like wearing shorts and t-shirts… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Waltershipman Posted August 4, 2023 #523 Share Posted August 4, 2023 1 minute ago, LuiK said: I would state, that the dresscode is casual up to smart casual outside of the pool areas. You only see a few (obviously) non paying guests in less than that like wearing shorts and t-shirts… Hiw are people dressed for evenings thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuiK Posted August 4, 2023 #524 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Like I said. You will not see t-shirts or shorts (much). Almost nobody looks shabby. People who pay 1.000 Euros per night know how to look decent. Even I try to fit in 😉 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare morpheusofthesea Posted August 4, 2023 #525 Share Posted August 4, 2023 2 hours ago, LuiK said: Like I said. You will not see t-shirts or shorts (much). Almost nobody looks shabby. People who pay 1.000 Euros per night know how to look decent. Even I try to fit in 😉 Can I quote you ? It is a great observation and I would love to give you credit when I use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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