Jewel medical emergency stop in Bermuda

[njkruzer]

Onboard Jewel TA.  Left Miami Friday. Last night made a left turn and headed north toward Bermuda.  Early this morning captain announced stopping off of Bermuda to take a passenger to the hospital.  Pilot boat just approached.  Doctor will go with patient and then we'll wait for Doctor to return before proceeding.  Captain says we won't be late for our arrival in Madeira.  And no, we don't know what's wrong with passenger. 

[smokeybandit]

Seems odd the doctor would go with the patient. It's not like Bermuda is a 3rd world country.

[cello56]

Perhaps the patient needs to be cared for on the trip from Jewel to shore? 

[leaveitallbehind]

13 minutes ago, cello56 said:

Perhaps the patient needs to be cared for on the trip from Jewel to shore? 

Agree.  Perhaps there was not a doctor available to go out on the pilot boat to meet the patient.  Any number of valid reasons.

 

Certainly hope the best for the patients' welfare.

Edited May 2, 2022 by leaveitallbehind

[chengkp75]

12 minutes ago, cello56 said:

Perhaps the patient needs to be cared for on the trip from Jewel to shore? 

Or, perhaps the doctor needs to properly discuss the patient's condition with the receiving doctor, who may or may not be on the boat.

[John&LaLa]

We had a dr disembark boat in India and we had to wait for his return. Took hours for him to return

[BND]

Dr is probably going with the patient to confer with the Dr at the hospital since he/she's been caring for him/her.  I don't see the big deal.

[Jimbo]

How are you only as far as Bermuda, if you left on Friday the 29th from Miami?

 

How far away from Bermuda before you doubled back to Bermuda?

 

Must have lost more then 1 day in time? going back to Bermuda?

 

That is why is so dangerous for these long crossing with no where to stop if you a have a real serious medical emergency. Something even like  a appendicitis attack  and it has to come out and you don't have time to wait. Not sure they can perform anything like that on the ship can they?

This type of problem, you don't get much warning, it just happens.

Edited May 2, 2022 by Jimbo

[Cruisin4beaches]

I was on the Jewel cruise right before the crossing. The crew kept asking me if I was staying on. I told them no because I was scared if we broke down halfway there who would come and save us.

Do they toss a coin or whichever country is closest.

I never thought about a medical emergency.

Any way I'm doing a B2B in November when they first get back. I love the Jewel and it's crew members!

 

[Sunshine3601]

We had medical emergency stop in Panama and Dr went with transport to the hospital and came back onboard about 2 hrs later.   No big deal to wait when someone needs help.

[chengkp75]

2 hours ago, Cruisin4beaches said:

I was scared if we broke down halfway there who would come and save us.

Not to be cruel, but if you broke down halfway, no one would come to save you.  A Coast Guard or Naval vessel would likely come out to standby, but it would be wait until a salvage tug came to tow the ship to the closest or easiest port. 

[Jimbo]

17 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

Not to be cruel, but if you broke down halfway, no one would come to save you.  A Coast Guard or Naval vessel would likely come out to standby, but it would be wait until a salvage tug came to tow the ship to the closest or easiest port. 

What happens when they are tugging ships this size in bad weather................Do they just pull the lines and let the vessel they are pulling just bounce(drift) around until the seas calm down and then re hook up?

 

I assume for the safety of the tug boat you wouldn't want to be pulling ships of this size in bad weather would you?

[chengkp75]

18 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

What happens when they are tugging ships this size in bad weather................Do they just pull the lines and let the vessel they are pulling just bounce(drift) around until the seas calm down and then re hook up?

 

I assume for the safety of the tug boat you wouldn't want to be pulling ships of this size in bad weather would you?

It depends on how bad the weather is, and the capabilities of the tug.  The most common method is to pay out more tow cable, to create more catenary (curve) in the tow line to absorb shock from the tug and tow not being "in synch" with the waves and each other.  Sometimes, they will attach a weight like an anchor to the middle of the tow line to create more tension against stretching the tow wire taut.  Salvage tugs have towed offshore oil platforms in all kinds of weather, and they tow far worse than a cruise ship.

[Biker19]

3 hours ago, Jimbo said:

How are you only as far as Bermuda, if you left on Friday the 29th from Miami?

Perhaps a visual will help:

 

 

Jewel is on her way again.

[Jimbo]

4 minutes ago, Biker19 said:

Perhaps a visual will help:

 

 

Jewel is on her way again.

Must have the sails up to conserve fuel.

[baelor]

I misread the title as "Jewish medical emergency stop in bermuda" and was briefly very confused.

[njkruzer]

Didn’t seem like we waited too long for doctor to return, but probably about an hour.  Looked like our emergency delayed Enchantment from docking.  

 

Did about 23 kts going to Bermuda; currently about 18 kits. Captain says we will arrive Madeira on time.  Someone said they saw the patient's husband also got on pilot boat with their luggage. 

[Bfsroyal]

Just as a slight off topic post to answer some of those concerned about medical emergencies on TAs. On all TAs I’ve been on there has been at least one. On one of our TA (not on Royal) we had three requiring medical evac. One was a crew member with breeched birth and the other two were I think heart attacks.

 

They made a call out for any specialist medical personnel for the breech birth. I believe they managed to locate someone with relevant experience.
 

At over 600 nm away from land the Spanish coastguard sent a helicopter with refuelling aircraft - that was for the first passenger with a heart attack - but they took the crew member who was in much greater need. We later found out crew member gave birth on land and all was well.

 

 About 8-10 hours later another Spanish coastguard aircraft removed the first heart attack patient still reasonably far from land. A third evac was done by Spanish coastguard in the Gibraltar area at 2 am in the morning.

 

On a Royal TA just before the pandemic they needed one of the rarer types of blood for a passenger and made an announcement on board and about 40 passengers showed up to donate. 
 

So if there happens to be a medical emergency on board whilst they can’t deal with everything onboard they will try pretty hard to get you to the best care ASAP.
 

Also a reminder to make sure you have sufficient travel insurance.

[chengkp75]

4 hours ago, Biker19 said:

Perhaps a visual will help:

 

 

Jewel is on her way again.

Not sure why they were so far south leaving Miami, looks like on a rhumb line course (constant course heading)(maybe weather).  But the great circle routes (shortest distance on a globe) from Miami to Bermuda is 956, Bermuda to Funchal is 2411, for a total of 3367, while a great circle from Miami to Funchal is only 3312 nm.  So, they should make Funchal in time, no worries, actually going more along the shorter course.

[cruise1957]

4 hours ago, baelor said:

I misread the title as "Jewish medical emergency stop in bermuda" and was briefly very confused.

I thought it was a jewel emergency, as in jewelry, just goes to show how everyone sees something different. I was very upset about the jewel emergency, I mean it may well have  been formal night. 

 

Sorry don't mean to hijack the topic, hope the passenger is ok.

[njkruzer]

11 minutes ago, chengkp75 said:

Not sure why they were so far south leaving Miami, looks like on a rhumb line course (constant course heading)(maybe weather).  But the great circle routes (shortest distance on a globe) from Miami to Bermuda is 956, Bermuda to Funchal is 2411, for a total of 3367, while a great circle from Miami to Funchal is only 3312 nm.  So, they should make Funchal in time, no worries, actually going more along the shorter course.

Captain was originally trying to avoid wet weather which might explain our original route. And yes he says we'll arrive in Funchal on time.

[kochleffel]

5 hours ago, baelor said:

I misread the title as "Jewish medical emergency stop in bermuda" and was briefly very confused.

 

I used to work at a synagogue and once received a call asking for help in arranging an emergency b'rit milah (Jewish ritual circumcision). I was baffled, because you have eight days' notice from when a boy is born until the ritual is supposed to take place -- it's not like an emergency baptism where a priest might be called to the NICU.

 

It turned out that the man's wife had been in a car accident and the baby had been born prematurely. At the time, the doctors said that the circumcision would have to be postponed, which is allowed in such cases. Then, seven days later, they suddenly changed their minds and said it could take place on schedule. Because of the medical history, the parents wanted it to be done by a mohel (ritual officiant for this) who was also a physician, which is possible in most cities. I told him that, on such short notice, it wouldn't be feasible for a physician-mohel to come to their home for it, which is generally preferred, but I gave them the name of one who would make time to do it at his office.