Rare graphicguy Posted January 18, 2023 #101 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, billco said: We are currently on the NCL Joy. People who want to dress up can do so on this cruise. It's called Freestyle where people can pretty much dress the way they want and and most people are happy about it. While I’ve had issues with NCL in the past for totally unrelated issues, I commend them for allowing passengers to dress as they please. No one will care one way of the other if you’re in a tux/gown or if you’re in a pair of Khakis/capri pants. Kudos to NCL. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare graphicguy Posted January 18, 2023 #102 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, BamaVol said: I have seen the same discussion repeatedly on Flyer Talk. com. There is a segment of the flying population that longs for the days when everyone dressed up to travel by air. They are slowly dying off and (sadly IMO) being replaced by people flying in their pajamas. But I understand the desire to be comfortable. I threw away all my ties but one or two after I stopped working in offices that required it. I keep a couple for cruise dinners and funerals. I must have missed the whole “dress up to fly” trend. I’ve flown over 2 million miles (and counting) and never experienced that. But, flying is as common as catching a bus. I would imagine in the 50s, maybe even the 60s, it was more of a unique way to travel, given what I’ve read about aviation travel in the “early” days. Edited January 18, 2023 by graphicguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jwattle Posted January 18, 2023 #103 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, graphicguy said: Important? Hardly! The last vestiges of tux/gown/suit and tie wearing on cruise ships are quickly fading away. But, there is a line where those who want to dress up can book a cruise. I hear Cunard is the place to go. I'm fading away? Hardly! We'll stay on the line that we love and dress up as we please, but we also won't judge those who don't . We can do us; they can do them. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantaFeFan Posted January 18, 2023 #104 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, graphicguy said: I must have missed the whole “dress up to fly” trend. I’ve flown over 2 million miles (and counting) and never experienced that. But, flying is as common as catching a bus. I would imagine in the 50s, maybe even the 60s, it was more of a unique way to travel, given what I’ve read about aviation travel in the “early” days. In those early days of flying, only the rich could afford to fly. Only after the Boeing 707 jet plane was introduced in the mid 50s, with it's much lower operating costs, could the average passenger afford it. Until then, people did dress up to travel on planes. Here is a photo of a Boeing Stratocruiser 1951 for example. Edited January 18, 2023 by SantaFeFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted January 18, 2023 #105 Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, BamaVol said: . I threw away all my ties but one or two after I stopped working in offices that required it. I keep a couple for cruise dinners and funerals. same - and there better be a keg by the door for my funeral. Hats, caps, shorts all welcome 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted January 18, 2023 #106 Share Posted January 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, SantaFeFan said: In those early days of flying, only the rich could afford to fly. Only after the Boeing 707 jet plane was introduced in the mid 50s, with it's much lower operating costs, could the average passenger afford it. Until then, people did dress up to travel on planes. Here is a photo of a Boeing Stratocruiser 1951 for example. bogus - noone is smoking.. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted January 18, 2023 #107 Share Posted January 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, SantaFeFan said: In those early days of flying, only the rich could afford to fly. Only after the Boeing 707 jet plane was introduced in the mid 50s, with it's much lower operating costs, could the average passenger afford it. Until then, people did dress up to travel on planes. Here is a photo of a Boeing Stratocruiser 1951 for example. boy ! look at all that leg room 😲 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BamaVol Posted January 18, 2023 #108 Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, c-boy said: boy ! look at all that leg room 😲 And every piece of luggage in the cargo hold, nothing under the seats or overhead. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted January 18, 2023 #109 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, BamaVol said: And every piece of luggage in the cargo hold, nothing under the seats or overhead. wonder what the captain is saying to that lady 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davekathy Posted January 18, 2023 #110 Share Posted January 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, c-boy said: wonder what the captain is saying to that lady I'm wondering what the blonde staring at the Capt. is thinking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bgwest Posted January 18, 2023 #111 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Broadside said: It is noted that the Casualistionists are once again asserting their non- evidenced propaganda.Fortunately Princess Cruise Lines have ignored them and instead listened and responded to the most influential and preferential sections of their customer base by continuing to promote Formal Nights and expanding the 'dress to impress' events. Your font is certainly bigger than mine. I'll give you that much. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted January 18, 2023 #112 Share Posted January 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, davekathy said: I'm wondering what the blonde staring at the Capt. is thinking. that's June Clever, Ward is in the restroom 😄 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NownZen Posted January 18, 2023 #113 Share Posted January 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Broadside said: It is noted that the Casualistionists are once again asserting their non- evidenced propaganda.Fortunately Princess Cruise Lines have ignored them and instead listened and responded to the most influential and preferential sections of their customer base by continuing to promote Formal Nights and expanding the 'dress to impress' events. You forgot to use the sarcasm font. Some people might mistakenly think you are serious. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billco Posted January 18, 2023 #114 Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 hours ago, memoak said: But there are limits. I do not enjoy watching people walk about the ship in bare feet or showing up in the dining room in pajamas. I wouldn’t enjoy it either. In fact, after 35 Princess cruises I don’t think I have ever seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Potstech Posted January 18, 2023 #115 Share Posted January 18, 2023 9 hours ago, Broadside said: Important to remember that it is not Princess Cruise Lines who flout the dress code . It is exclusively some Princess Passengers who choose to flout the dress code. It is Princess Cruise line that does not enforce its own guidelines which allow passengers to flout the dress codes. Yes it is Princess Passengers who flout the code, who else would? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted January 18, 2023 #116 Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, billco said: I wouldn’t enjoy it either. In fact, after 35 Princess cruises I don’t think I have ever seen it. After all these years I'm still looking for all those extreme under dressers that posters keep talking about, and have still yet to see one. The worst I've seen are people in casual clothing on formal nights and those dreaded shorts on casual evenings. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z0nker Posted January 18, 2023 #117 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/14/2023 at 6:43 AM, wannagonow123 said: OK. I know what the website suggests, but I would like to know what people are wearing in the dining room for non-gala nights. If someone shows up in shorts, will they be turned away? We are cruising with a couple that mainly cruises with Carnival, where short of bathing suits allows just about anything. Unless you show up in a Speedo they’ll probably let you in. I normally go with slacks or dark jeans and a button down. Sometimes add a sport coat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z0nker Posted January 18, 2023 #118 Share Posted January 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Potstech said: It is Princess Cruise line that does not enforce its own guidelines which allow passengers to flout the dress codes. Yes it is Princess Passengers who flout the code, who else would? I’ve been on four cruise lines. They all let passengers flout the dress code. The guidelines are guidelines, not rules. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantaFeFan Posted January 18, 2023 #119 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Potstech said: It is Princess Cruise line that does not enforce its own guidelines which allow passengers to flout the dress codes. Yes it is Princess Passengers who flout the code, who else would? No one is flouting anything. The dress code is a suggestion, not a requirement. How can someone flout a suggestion????? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantaFeFan Posted January 18, 2023 #120 Share Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, MissP22 said: After all these years I'm still looking for all those extreme under dressers that posters keep talking about, and have still yet to see one. The worst I've seen are people in casual clothing on formal nights and those dreaded shorts on casual evenings. Seems it's always the traditionalists that make those unfounded claims. More hyperbole to try to make the situation more dire than it actually is to justify their own demands. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelers36 Posted January 19, 2023 #121 Share Posted January 19, 2023 9 hours ago, c-boy said: wonder what the captain is saying to that lady Boy! Look at those legs .. er I mean leg room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMADAMS91 Posted January 19, 2023 #122 Share Posted January 19, 2023 In our entire cruising history, we have dined in the MDR almost exclusively. In that time, my dining experience nor that of my husband or family, has been impacted negatively/positively by what someone else is wearing. We usually stick to the suggested dress but the older I get and the more I cruise, the less I want to drag a bunch of extra clothes with me. My dress won't affect our experience and what someone else wears, as long as everything is covered appropriately, won't affect our experience. There are so many other things to focus on while on vacation; what the people sitting at the next table are wearing isn't one I want to waste time on. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsoffun44 Posted January 19, 2023 #123 Share Posted January 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Z0nker said: I’ve been on four cruise lines. They all let passengers flout the dress code. The guidelines are guidelines, not rules. Guidelines created by people thousands of miles away in the Corporate offices - NOT those who actually have to attempt enforcement of them face to face with passengers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrak Posted January 19, 2023 #124 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Here's a "Blast From The Past". This is a snip from a 1975 Princess Cruises Brochure: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfamm Posted January 19, 2023 #125 Share Posted January 19, 2023 11 hours ago, SantaFeFan said: No one is flouting anything. The dress code is a suggestion, not a requirement. How can someone flout a suggestion????? The dress code states very clearly that shorts and ball caps are not welcome in the dining room. That is not a suggestion. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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