Rotherham_Cruiser Posted August 30, 2016 #101 Share Posted August 30, 2016 But she was getting something she hadn't paid for... Alcohol. Yes indeed. Still seems a bit harsh though - they were a lovely old retired couple not wanting to do harm to anyone. He didn't get her additional drinks at any time, and its a sad day when a couple cant sit in a corner, enjoying a drink together as they wish. Its the blatant cheats that need targeting and stopping. Not the soft targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoppyandNana Posted August 30, 2016 #102 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I always share mine with my gf. She's a light drinker but likes some non alcoholic drinks during the day. I like the drink package because I can try all the drinks that I want. If I don't like a drink, in the trash it goes and the bartenders don't care. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app You are what we in the business call a "Class Act". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcruz Posted August 30, 2016 #103 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Sooooo, Those of you screaming for Royal to enforce the drink package rules, do you also want them to enforce the MDR dress code to the letter? You don't have a collared shirt, you don't eat. You have a ball cap, you don't eat. You are wearing shorts, you don't eat. You are wearing sandals, you don't eat. How about the abandoned deck chair rule? Even if you're just going to the buffet for something to eat, if you're gone one minute longer than the allowed time limit, you lose the chair. Even if you're huny is parked in the chair right next to it. How about reservations at specialty restaurants? You don't show up until 6:05 for your 6:00 reservation? Sorry pal, you have to go the Windjammer or the MDR now. Holding seats for someone in the theater? You get escorted out of the show because the rules say holding seats is not allowed. So how far do you want Royal to go? Yes. Why have "rules" if they are not enforced. Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted August 30, 2016 #104 Share Posted August 30, 2016 yes it is still stealing. doesn't matter if you cheat on one drink or three dozen. its people like you who try and twist things to their advantage that will lead to the END of the 3 drinks vouchers altogether and the reintroduction of EVERYONE having to buy a drinks package. Technically correct, but the drink packages incourages you to try something new and different. If I got a drink that sounded interesting and found out it was terrible, is it more ethical to dump it out, or give it to someone who might finish it? (once) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powersboyee2 Posted August 30, 2016 #105 Share Posted August 30, 2016 yes it is still stealing. doesn't matter if you cheat on one drink or three dozen. its people like you who try and twist things to their advantage that will lead to the END of the 3 drinks vouchers altogether and the reintroduction of EVERYONE having to buy a drinks package. I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you there. I'm willing to bet my left arm (right handed) that RCCL sees far more value in a client whom buys a drink package, even knowing they will more than likely share some drinks to others, than they do in someone who doesn't buy one at all. Research shows that people who buy items as such, are also going to spend more $$ on specialty dining, excursions, spa treatments etc. see where I'm going here? The value in this type of client vs the penny pinching, MDR only eating, three free drink voucher drinking plus maybe 1 or 2 more drinks/day drinking type of client, is astronomically greater. I fit the shell of always buy a drink package, usually the 5 night dining package on Oasis class, plus a few shore excursions, Internet etc. I rarely if ever use my three free drink vouchers as a young self made diamond member. Which one are you. Is the $6.95 cover charge at Johnny Rockets something that appalls you? Lol jkjk but anyways... IMO from a business standpoint, it doesn't make a ton of sense to enforce it strictly as they would be turning off some of their highest spending clientele by doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted August 30, 2016 #106 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) It's always the same everywhere. The ones that scream "police" and that people are being "judgy" are the ones that think it's okay to do it. They're not open minded or do not care what others do, they are just the ones doing it. Just remember this, it's not all about YOU! We don't bring anything except our allowed two bottles of wine per person, we don't share packages, we do not chair hog and it is not the majority that do. People who do break the rules like to think everyone else does it too, but they're wrong. Rules exist for a reason and if you don't like the rules, you don't have to cruise on RCI. Simple. It is spelled out very clearly that a drink package is per person, period. Edited August 30, 2016 by BND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kew Gardens Cruiser Posted August 30, 2016 #107 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Technically correct, but the drink packages incourages you to try something new and different. If I got a drink that sounded interesting and found out it was terrible, is it more ethical to dump it out, or give it to someone who might finish it? (once) I don't have an issue with someone letting another try their drink if they are not planning on finishing it. Some people have an issue with wasting food or drink. The Cruise line probably doesn't mind either because if that person likes the drink they may order themselves one. Some will probably disagree though. Like I said earlier I have seen people jumped on in the soda card threads because they asked if it was ok to let their wife/ husband have a sip of their soda because they were not planning on finishing the glass and didn't want it to go to waste. I happen to think that is a little extreme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted August 30, 2016 #108 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Yes indeed. Still seems a bit harsh though - they were a lovely old retired couple not wanting to do harm to anyone. He didn't get her additional drinks at any time, and its a sad day when a couple cant sit in a corner, enjoying a drink together as they wish. Its the blatant cheats that need targeting and stopping. Not the soft targets. The couple you refer to had every right to sit and enjoy a drink together, but they were also just as guilty of sharing a drink package as amscene1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted August 30, 2016 #109 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Sooooo, Those of you screaming for Royal to enforce the drink package rules, do you also want them to enforce the MDR dress code to the letter? You don't have a collared shirt, you don't eat. You have a ball cap, you don't eat. You are wearing shorts, you don't eat. You are wearing sandals, you don't eat. How about the abandoned deck chair rule? Even if you're just going to the buffet for something to eat, if you're gone one minute longer than the allowed time limit, you lose the chair. Even if you're huny is parked in the chair right next to it. How about reservations at specialty restaurants? You don't show up until 6:05 for your 6:00 reservation? Sorry pal, you have to go the Windjammer or the MDR now. Holding seats for someone in the theater? You get escorted out of the show because the rules say holding seats is not allowed. So how far do you want Royal to go? LOL! I betcha didn't see those answers coming but then again, was it really a question? :D:p:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkertwo Posted August 30, 2016 #110 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) It's always the same everywhere. The ones that scream "police" and that people are being "judgy" are the ones that think it's okay to do it. They're not open minded or do not care what others do, they are just the ones doing it. Just remember this, it's not all about YOU! We don't bring anything except our allowed two bottles of wine per person, we don't share packages, we do not chair hog and it is not the majority that do. People who do break the rules like to think everyone else does it too, but they're wrong. Rules exist for a reason and if you don't like the rules, you don't have to cruise on RCI. Simple. It is spelled out very clearly that a drink package is per person, period. Now see, here you are being judgy. You have me marked as a person not open minded. You are saying that I'm a person doing it. Well, my husband doesn't drink ever so sharing my drink package would be near impossible don't you think? He is getting the Refreshment package. Me, I do not drink much, maybe 3/4 a day when on vacation, however I have purchased the Ultimate package just so I don't have to worry about what I can and can not order. RCCL will make money off of me but I don't care because I will not have to bother with a bill at the end of the cruise. Saying I'm not open minded is the 'pot calling the kettle' don't you think? And as to not caring what others do, no, I don't. Its enough for me to babysit my grandchildren at home, I certainly don't need to be policing what you do on your cruise. You must have very crappy cruises if your spending your time caring about what the next person is doing. I'm going to go back to 'its very easy' to say no, its not right to share a package. We don't need to be mean about it all. Well, some people don't need to be mean. And remember this, its not all about you! :rolleyes: Edited August 30, 2016 by tinkertwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted August 30, 2016 #111 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Now see, here you are being judgy. You have me marked as a person not open minded. You are saying that I'm a person doing it. Well, my husband doesn't drink ever so sharing my drink package would be near impossible don't you think? He is getting the Refreshment package. Me, I do not drink much, maybe 3/4 a day when on vacation, however I have purchased the Ultimate package just so I don't have to worry about what I can and can not order. RCCL will make money off of me but I don't care because I will not have to bother with a bill at the end of the cruise. Saying I'm not open minded is the 'pot calling the kettle' don't you think? And as to not caring what others do, no, I don't. Its enough for me to babysit my grandchildren at home, I certainly don't need to be policing what you do on your cruise. You must have very crappy cruises if your spending your time caring about what the next person is doing. I'm going to go back to 'its very easy' to say no, its not right to share a package. We don't need to be mean about it all. Well, some people don't need to be mean. And remember this, its not all about you! :rolleyes: Sounds like grandma needs a drink.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkertwo Posted August 30, 2016 #112 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Sounds like grandma needs a drink.:cool: Wheres the like button?? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted August 30, 2016 #113 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Now see, here you are being judgy. You have me marked as a person not open minded. You are saying that I'm a person doing it. Well, my husband doesn't drink ever so sharing my drink package would be near impossible don't you think? He is getting the Refreshment package. Me, I do not drink much, maybe 3/4 a day when on vacation, however I have purchased the Ultimate package just so I don't have to worry about what I can and can not order. RCCL will make money off of me but I don't care because I will not have to bother with a bill at the end of the cruise. Saying I'm not open minded is the 'pot calling the kettle' don't you think? And as to not caring what others do, no, I don't. Its enough for me to babysit my grandchildren at home, I certainly don't need to be policing what you do on your cruise. You must have very crappy cruises if your spending your time caring about what the next person is doing. I'm going to go back to 'its very easy' to say no, its not right to share a package. We don't need to be mean about it all. Well, some people don't need to be mean. And remember this, its not all about you! :rolleyes: Never said I wasn't judgy. I hate the fact that people think calling someone judgmental makes them better than someone else, all while acting like they're just sweet and innocent and open minded. I don't police anyone, never turned anyone in for their breaking cruise line rules, etc, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them. I have never noticed anyone sharing a package, etc, but when people come on here and defend breaking the rules for their own purposes, then they need to take a step back and think about posting because they're just opening themselves up to other's opinions and feelings about the subject. It's more than easy to say it's not right to share a package, because it isn't. BTW, where did I say you weren't open minded?:rolleyes: And, what I said was people who consider themselves open minded are the ones doing it. Mainly because it make them feel good about themselves. Edited August 30, 2016 by BND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted August 30, 2016 #114 Share Posted August 30, 2016 You are what we in the business call a "Class Act". Class act for stealing drinks? I can only imagine what you would call someone who steals say a car. Theft is theft no matter what the value of the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkertwo Posted August 30, 2016 #115 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Never said I wasn't judgy. I hate the fact that people think calling someone judgmental makes them better than someone else, all while acting like they're just sweet and innocent and open minded. I don't police anyone, never turned anyone in for their breaking cruise line rules, etc, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them. I have never noticed anyone sharing a package, etc, but when people come on here and defend breaking the rules for their own purposes, then they need to take a step back and think about posting because they're just opening themselves up to other's opinions and feelings about the subject. It's more than easy to say it's not right to share a package, because it isn't. BTW, where did I say you weren't open minded?:rolleyes: And, what I said was people who consider themselves open minded are the ones doing it. Mainly because it make them feel good about themselves. It's always the same everywhere. The ones that scream "police" and that people are being "judgy" are the ones that think it's okay to do it. They're not open minded or do not care what others do, they are just the ones doing it. Just remember this, it's not all about YOU! We don't bring anything except our allowed two bottles of wine per person, we don't share packages, we do not chair hog and it is not the majority that do. People who do break the rules like to think everyone else does it too, but they're wrong. Rules exist for a reason and if you don't like the rules, you don't have to cruise on RCI. Simple. It is spelled out very clearly that a drink package is per person, period. Right there. P.S.--I am open minded. :D I may not agree with everything people do all the time but if its none of my business then its none on my business. Have a good day. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted August 30, 2016 #116 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Class act for stealing drinks? I can only imagine what you would call someone who steals say a car. Theft is theft no matter what the value of the product. The PP was being sarcastic. When you call someone a "class act" it is typically used to insult someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd99 Posted August 30, 2016 #117 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just returned from a sailing on which I purchased a drink package for myself. On at least 3 different occasions (including one in a speciality restaurant) my wife ordered a drink and instead of putting it on her card, waiter or bartender showed it on mine as zero as if it was part of the package. We TRIED to correct it the first 2 times but were waved off by service staff. Third time I didn't notice it until after we left restaurant. This made me think that widespread sharing is probably the norm, rather than the exception to the rule. So to the drink police I say, if the cruise line isn't going to be consistent in how it deals with it, how are guest supposed to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerif Posted August 30, 2016 #118 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Sooooo, Those of you screaming for Royal to enforce the drink package rules, do you also want them to enforce the MDR dress code to the letter? You don't have a collared shirt, you don't eat. You have a ball cap, you don't eat. You are wearing shorts, you don't eat. You are wearing sandals, you don't eat. How about the abandoned deck chair rule? Even if you're just going to the buffet for something to eat, if you're gone one minute longer than the allowed time limit, you lose the chair. Even if you're huny is parked in the chair right next to it. How about reservations at specialty restaurants? You don't show up until 6:05 for your 6:00 reservation? Sorry pal, you have to go the Windjammer or the MDR now. Holding seats for someone in the theater? You get escorted out of the show because the rules say holding seats is not allowed. So how far do you want Royal to go? Not all of those are actually rules, but yes, the ones that are I would love to see enforced. I don't agree that people in the theater who try to save seats should be escorted out, just made to give up those extra seats. Have no clue what a "huny" might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomanycritters Posted August 30, 2016 Author #119 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'm assuming that 'huny' is a take on the word 'honey' as in 'sweetheart, better-half, significant other' etc. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powersboyee2 Posted August 30, 2016 #120 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Just returned from a sailing on which I purchased a drink package for myself. On at least 3 different occasions (including one in a speciality restaurant) my wife ordered a drink and instead of putting it on her card, waiter or bartender showed it on mine as zero as if it was part of the package. We TRIED to correct it the first 2 times but were waved off by service staff. Third time I didn't notice it until after we left restaurant. This made me think that widespread sharing is probably the norm, rather than the exception to the rule. So to the drink police I say, if the cruise line isn't going to be consistent in how it deals with it, how are guest supposed to? This has been my experience on several different ships as well. Wait.... do you hear that......?? I hear the sirens coming again. lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoak Posted August 30, 2016 #121 Share Posted August 30, 2016 How could they charge everyone for a drinks package, what if they are non alcohol drinkers? There is at least one cruise line that does require all adults in a cabin to buy the drink program if one does (even if they are pregnant). It also limits the amount of drinks you can get with the program per day. This is also the same cruise line with the most issues with booze smugglers and sharers of programs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachChik Posted August 30, 2016 #122 Share Posted August 30, 2016 This is also the same cruise line with the most issues with booze smugglers and sharers of programs Given that you have no way to know if this is in fact true I will assume you are just making up this entire statement. I read multiple boards and it's an issue on all the mass market lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted August 30, 2016 #123 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Given that you have no way to know if this is in fact true I will assume you are just making up this entire statement. Facts are optional on CC - opinion rules the day.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted August 30, 2016 #124 Share Posted August 30, 2016 So often people comment about the high price of drinks on board. However, this is so subjective. Price of drinks varies from city to city, type of establishment, etc. Quite honestly I don't think drink prices are that high ...... Try buying a drink in an airport, major city, ball game, etc....... Very often they are higher than RC. Glass of wine/cocktail in chain restaurants that I frequent usually start around $8 and easily go up from there; just like on RC. You are not paying local corner bar/social club prices. Sharing a package is cheating and should be watched carefully by the staff. Don't use the price of a drink as an excuse; I also find RC frozen drinks are larger than I buy at home; perhaps more mix, but still larger, and usually don't find bartender skimps on the liquor. You are correct that ship's prices are like "ball park" price or theme park, or concerts....the problem is...you are on a SHIP for MUCH MORE than 3-5 hours! The prices ARE too high, for a place where you're LIVING for a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overtyme Posted August 30, 2016 #125 Share Posted August 30, 2016 We've always purchased the top package for each of us, but one could argue the opposite: do away with any packages altogether and/or modify the prices there could be no sharing.. [emoji850] Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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