Is it possible to avoid smoke smells-Or are we stuck with land based trips?

[griffy116]

While we have been on many RC cruises, we went on our first with Celebrity last year. I went with great trepidation because I always hear on the boards that Celebrity is so much more strict about smoking. I have to say that while you can't smoke indoors, the area for smoking is the BEST! Nice comfy area, both covered and in the sun,with extremely nice outdoor furniture. Most comfortable area on the ship. I follow the rules and only smoke in the designated areas. I don't smuggle booze. I don't carry prohibited irons or steamers. I tip well above the guidelines. I don't share beverage packages, but I always see lectures from people who have other posts boasting and bragging about breaking the rules. There are even some who intentionally come to the smoking areas and then go to the crew to complain about the smoking...in the smoking areas.

[ldubs]

I recall watching a woman walking toward the stern on the port side of the upper deck.

She crossed to the starboard side, walked past the smokers in the designated area with her nose stuck in the air, waving away imaginary smoke and feigning a theatrical cough, then crossed back to the other side to continue toward the stern

Hilarious :D :D :D

 

That is the definition of sanctimonious ;)

 

JB :)

 

 

Funny and sad. I'm not a smoker. I don't freak out if I smell smoke but will admit that I hate the smell of cigars. Anyway, these days there are some people who need to express outrage about something or they are not happy.

[navybankerteacher]

 

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What I find most irritating are the grumbles of non-smokers as they pass right thru the designated smoking areas. It's quite unfair to complain about something when the rules are being followed.

 

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We have saved a TON of cruise fare by no longer purchasing balcony suites - we did that for years - now with the stricter policies I don't bother with a balcony since I can't use it for the purpose I wished.

 

 

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As a former smoker I share your view about those who complain about smoke in designated smoking areas. They are a PITA.

 

Of course, also as a former smoker - originally from New York, where cigarettes are $13 a pack, I recognize how much more I am able to cruise by not smoking -- that extra $4,500 or so per year can buy several days at sea.

[JMorris271]

 

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What I find most irritating are the grumbles of non-smokers as they pass right thru the designated smoking areas. It's quite unfair to complain about something when the rules are being followed.

 

Just because the RULES are being followed has no bearing on or mitigate the reeking stench caused by a cigarettes smoke. OH I feel so guilty because by paying $12,000 for a relaxing 2 week cruise, I am forcing my lungs to flare up because I wanted to see a part of the world that's interesting to me....I sure as heck don't want to be a PITA by wincing when I have to pass through an area that burns my eyes! God Forbid! By all mean, the rules are on the smokers side, be damned those that are concerned for their health.

 

We have saved a TON of cruise fare by no longer purchasing balcony suites - we did that for years - now with the stricter policies I don't bother with a balcony since I can't use it for the purpose I wished.

 

 

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As a former smoker I share your view about those who complain about smoke in designated smoking areas. They are a PITA.

 

Of course, also as a former smoker - originally from New York, where cigarettes are $13 a pack, I recognize how much more I am able to cruise by not smoking -- that extra $4,500 or so per year can buy several days at sea.

Where you can continue to inhale all of that sweet smelling tar and nicotine. WOO HOO!

[JMorris271]

With regard to the previous post, I am not at all sure how it got formatted the way it did. I was not my intention to misrepresent Gammy1964's post. My apologies.

[MicCanberra]

Hey, Mic!

I notice that you have 42-something THOUSAND posts on these pages in 6 years!

Wow. WOW!!!

I have heard that things are a bit slow in Canberra, but THAT slow to find the time to post an average of 19 posts per day? Love it!

:-) :p ;-)

Cheers,

CC helps feeds my addiction when not actually cruising of course.:D

[maldenmusic]

Your problem is more likely the length of your cruise rather than your cruise line.

 

3 day cruises are routinely called booze cruises, full of fun loving young folks with little regard for technical issues, like where you can and cannot smoke.

 

Try a 7 day or long sailing and you will find a very different demographic. Not perfect, but definitely different.

I agree. I definitely notice a different type of crowd overall on longer cruises.

[Karen_Travels]

I ditto the suggestion about trying a river cruise, first. We've been on two Viking River cruises and have never had a problem encountering smoke (my mom is very sensitive to it so she shares your concerns.). Their smoking area is located where no one else needs to walk through it.

I also agree with the comments about the variation in the types of cruises. Some ships and itineraries attract more people who are likely to smoke in the wrong areas. Avoid the shorter cruises and do research on the cruise line and itinerary, first. We noticed a big difference in the type of people who go on say a Celebrity South American cruise (interested in seeing the sights) and some of the cruise lines sailing in the Caribbean or short trips out of Florida (party people, more drinking, more time "reserving" their pool chairs ;p).

 

You can also pay attention to your cabin position if you have a balcony. Closer to the bow you'll have fewer cabins upwind of you!

[pseudoware]

Power to you guy. Puff away. It's your right. But it is my right to mobile through an area filled with toxic fumes and to be repulsed. No show biz involved. Just frighten disgust. . If that annoys you,... sorry.

This! The right of anyone to breathe smoke-free air trumps (I gotta quit using that word) someone's "right" to smoke. Period.

 

"Smoking area" is a joke when the smoke fails to remain in said area.

 

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[Florida Glamazon]

This! The right of anyone to breathe smoke-free air trumps (I gotta quit using that word) someone's "right" to smoke. Period.

 

"Smoking area" is a joke when the smoke fails to remain in said area.

 

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I gotta quit using that word, but totally 110% agree with you.:)

[voyager70]

I gotta quit using that word, but totally 110% agree with you.:)

 

Well aren't you special. TRUMP that.

[SRF]

Where is it your RIGHT to smoke or to breath smoke free air????

 

I must have missed that in the Constitution.

 

Oh, and most cruise ships are not US flagged, so do not have to follow most of the US rules.

[JMorris271]

Where is it your RIGHT to smoke or to breath smoke free air????

 

I must have missed that in the Constitution.

 

Oh, and most cruise ships are not US flagged, so do not have to follow most of the US rules.

Do you maintain a personal space policy for yourself ? Smoke is another way to VIOLATE another person's personal space. It's called in their nostrils. Is that personal enough?

[navybankerteacher]

Where is it your RIGHT to smoke or to breath smoke free air????

 

I must have missed that in the Constitution.

 

Oh, and most cruise ships are not US flagged, so do not have to follow most of the US rules.

 

With Connecticut’s passing a ban on smoking in parks and on public beaches, the “right” to breathe smoke free air is slightly better recognized; and the “right” to foul the air being breathed by others is slightly diminished.

[cruisemom42]

Do you maintain a personal space policy for yourself ? Smoke is another way to VIOLATE another person's personal space. It's called in their nostrils. Is that personal enough?

 

I am curious how you manage to avoid other objectionable (and potentially harmful) smells.

 

Do you refrain from walking along roads or parking lots with car traffic (exhaust fumes)? Do you avoid any and all freshly-painted areas (volatile organic compounds)? Do you refuse to visit friends who might live in older houses where mold could be a problem? Do you only go to full-service gas stations so that you don't have to pump your own gas (and breathe the fumes)?

 

I am a never-smoker but nonetheless I am skeptical that a rare 30-second-or-so walk through a smoky area onboard ship (given that I can hold my breath for at least that long) would lead me to develop cancer.

[SPacificbound]

Try another cruise line.

 

I am very allergic to smoke and have never had a problem on a ship but one time. I reported the balcony smoker and that took care of the problem.

[pris993]

We cruise Princess, Holland America, Celebrity, Cunard... except for the casino smoking and smoke smells are really not a problem.. I use to smoke some 20 years ago... rarely smell smoke these days anywhere except when I travel to Europe or Florida... I live in California.

[SRF]

With Connecticut’s passing a ban on smoking in parks and on public beaches, the “right” to breathe smoke free air is slightly better recognized; and the “right” to foul the air being breathed by others is slightly diminished.

 

A law is not a right.

 

Basic civics.

[navybankerteacher]

A law is not a right.

 

Basic civics.

 

What’s your point?

 

Of course a law is not a right - but it does outline what rights members of a society have - and certain rights of others which members have an obligation to respect.

[bUU]

A law is not a right.

 

Basic civics.

The question that raises is, "Who to believe?" A random person on the Internet, or the World Health Organization, the United Nations, etc. Remarkably, the answer isn't quite so straightforward.

 

With most things, the right exists long before it is recognized and enforced by government. For example, women were not gifted the "right to vote" by men: They had the right to vote, and many women and men fought to have that right acknowledged by government. The matter of the right to clean air has come up in recent years, as many states and nations consider codifying that right in enforceable law. As with the women's right to vote, it will be an adjustment and there will be a fight before that right is finally fully acknowledged. Until then, legislation fills the gap - it mitigates some of the damage from the failure of society's integrity to recognize and acknowledge things that disadvantage powerful financial and business interests, a recurring failure attributable to the disproportionate influence of money on politics. Those passenger rights arguably exist, but simply are denied by an unjust legal system that disproportionately benefits powerful financial and business interests.

 

Let me be clear, though: The effect is the same as if the right doesn't exist. That's critical to understand. You are required to live your life as if denied rights don't exist (while you're fighting for them) or you're just tilting at windmills.

 

And this is why that's important: This is the same effect that allows cruise lines to impose 10,068 word contracts with numerous exculpatory clauses, when (if it weren't for the disproportionate influence of money on politics) we would probably see the United States recognize certain passenger rights - rights that other nations have recognized and enforce on cruises sold within their borders. Read the forums for a while and you'll find those threads where people are outraged at something the cruise line does "to" them, only to find out that they agreed to the cruise line doing that to them in that circumstance - followed by someone from, say, Australia, saying that the cruise lines aren't allowed to operate that way down under.

 

The fact that those passenger rights arguably exist, though, doesn't matter when you're a cruise passenger. Again, you are required to live your life as if denied rights don't exist.

 

Luckily for those who don't like smoke, whether there is a right to clean air or not almost doesn't matter: With how the tide has changed, it is a de facto right on cruise ships of many mainstream cruise lines. There surely is no "right to smoke" and as such when smoking costs the cruise lines more revenue than it earns them, smoking gets gone.

Edited June 9, 2018 by bUU

[Got2Cruise]

Just my .02. The OP was on a short 3 day Carnival Cruise. This type of cruise attracts party people. Perhaps a longer cruise on Holland America would be worth a try the percentage of smokers would be much less.

[JMorris271]

I am curious how you manage to avoid other objectionable (and potentially harmful) smells.

 

Do you refrain from walking along roads or parking lots with car traffic (exhaust fumes)? Do you avoid any and all freshly-painted areas (volatile organic compounds)? Do you refuse to visit friends who might live in older houses where mold could be a problem? Do you only go to full-service gas stations so that you don't have to pump your own gas (and breathe the fumes)?

 

I am a never-smoker but nonetheless I am skeptical that a rare 30-second-or-so walk through a smoky area onboard ship (given that I can hold my breath for at least that long) would lead me to develop cancer.

30 sec. to get through a casino??:loudcry::loudcry::o:o

A gas pump is not disregarding the public's health, exposure to auto fumes is not a realistic analogy. I wonder if you are one of those guys that texts while driving., to heck with other peoples safety.

BTW it is not just breathing endangered but also your eyes and ears according to the AMA.

If you and your family were just served dinner and a foul smelling gentleman with the stench of urine on his clothes arrives and sits at a table next to yours with his odor drifting onto your dinner area. Would you then hold your breathe and continue enjoying your meal , complain or just leave.

[Heidi13]

Another Line with defined smoking policy is Viking Ocean - no smoking in any interior spaces of the ship - public spaces, cabins and also balconies. The policy also applies to ecigs.

 

Smoking is only permitted in a designated area of the open decks, normally up on the Sun Deck.

 

They also don't have a Casino to walk through

[cruisemom42]

30 sec. to get through a casino??:loudcry::loudcry::o:o

 

Are there really lines where you HAVE to walk through the casino? I started cruising as a kid, and was not allowed to walk into the casinos onboard ships. We never seemed to have a problem figuring out a way to go around; there are always options.

A gas pump is not disregarding the public's health, exposure to auto fumes is not a realistic analogy.

 

You might want to do a little research about fumes at gas stations before you decide this.

 

I wonder if you are one of those guys that texts while driving., to heck with other peoples safety.

 

Not sure how you got there from what I posted, but no, I do not.

If you and your family were just served dinner and a foul smelling gentleman with the stench of urine on his clothes arrives and sits at a table next to yours with his odor drifting onto your dinner area. Would you then hold your breathe and continue enjoying your meal , complain or just leave.

 

There is literally no possible way this would happen on a cruise ship with smokers (or presumably with the scenario you provide above), so I don't understand what is the point you're making.....

 

My comments above. I'm not implying smoking (or breathing smoke) isn't dangerous. It simply boggles my mind how people focus on it to the exclusion of common sense and real world risks.

[JMorris271]

My comments above. I'm not implying smoking (or breathing smoke) isn't dangerous. It simply boggles my mind how people focus on it to the exclusion of common sense and real world risks.

 

My objection to smoking has to do with when it is allowed in the casino and only because I enjoy the games. This is a large part vacation that is ruined for me so others can enjoy their vice on their vacation. I know many others feel the same way as I do.

I compromised my comfort because it was my belief that smoking in casinos is relegated to certain slot areas and that was it. Maybe it is and maybe it's not. The rules are not that clear.

As to my other comments you addressed, I understand my reasoning as to what I meant so I'll leave it there.

I hope you have a nice cruise.