steveoelliott Posted October 20, 2018 #1 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Hi all, I am reaching out having recently returned from a 14 day cruise with Cunard on QE which encompassed the Canary Islands so 7 of these days were port days. I travelled on exactly the same cruise some two years previous but on that occasion the cruise was only 12 days (less stops). One issue I have found is that I often find it difficult to sleep or remain asleep at night. If I stay out late at night and indulge myself then I tend to get off to sleep nicely but due to background noise of cabin stewards, fellow guests who are early risers and room service etc. I am normally awoken no later than 6am. After this time I really struggle getting back to sleep. On the other hand, if I take it easy and try for an early night will fall asleep around 11pm only to then wake up at 2:30 – 3:00pm for no reason and then struggle to get back off to sleep. The upshot of this is that during both cruises I have never got more than 6 hours sleep a night and many were only 4 hours. At times I felt absolutely exhausted but try as I may I couldn’t nap in the day. Back at home I seldom have many sleep issues. Once or twice a month I may get a restless night but during these holidays I really got to understand what it must be like to be an insomniac. I’m keen to know others experiences or am I unique J I love cruising and I’m determined to not let it put me off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted October 20, 2018 #2 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Maybe you would do well to speak with your doctor rather than cruisers on a public internet forum? Good luck. Edited October 20, 2018 by sail7seas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoelliott Posted October 20, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted October 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, sail7seas said: Maybe you would do well to speak with your doctor rather than cruisers on a public internet forum? Good luck. Thanks for your kind feedback.... To be frank I'm not looking for a medical remedy / intervention as generally I don't have issues with sleep. However, I am interested and curious to see how fellow cruisers find their sleep patterns are when on-board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted October 20, 2018 #4 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I am grate ful I always sleep we ll on cruises. I like HAL's mattresses and sleep comes easily for me on ships. Nog necessarily so at home Do you sleep okay in hotels? Maybe it is because of the strange bed and bedroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoelliott Posted October 20, 2018 Author #5 Share Posted October 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, sail7seas said: Do you sleep okay in hotels? Maybe it is because of the strange bed and bedroom Generally I'm OK away from home... I suspect it may be the excitement / noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted October 20, 2018 #6 Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Not sure which side of the pond you live on and where the cruise started. Because jet lag would have been my first guess if you had to fly across to start the trip. Whenever we fly to Europe, my internal clock is askew for a few days. Barring any medical problems or new medications, external noise might have been a big factor, too. I read in your other thread that your room was under the Lido deck, and you had several occasions where the noises from above intruded into your cabin. IS it possible that you were sleeping more lightly than usual, and any sudden noise (a door slamming in the corridor, something being dropped on the deck above) was enough to waken you? Hopefully you returned to your usual sleep pattern when you returned home. Maybe next time select a cabin without a public area above or below you. Edited October 20, 2018 by mom says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Hattie Posted October 20, 2018 #7 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I usually sleep really well on cruises, much better than when I stay in hotels or other places away from home. I do use ear plugs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsb48154 Posted October 20, 2018 #8 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Also, are you dealing with changes in time zones? And for some of us just the excitement of being on holiday can disturb our sleep patterns (not to mention out of the ordinary food and drink😉). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoelliott Posted October 20, 2018 Author #9 Share Posted October 20, 2018 So... This cruise started and finished in my home time-zone (UK) so jet lag not a factor here... I actually have few issues when going to US and back home with sleep apart from the immediate day after. Ear plugs are a good point and I have already ear marked that (excuse the pun) for the next cruise. My wife is an audiologist so she will have some moulds made for me. Although I found the Lido deck irritating at times and it would have been easy to blame that, I don't feel that was the real problem. I must say though I do find the morning noise in the corridors keeps me awake once awoken so fingers crossed the ear plugs help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted October 20, 2018 #10 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I would also suggest - don't try to nap in the daytime. Even if you don't actually fall asleep, your body is resting. You may be resting too much. I find, when I've been waking up "too early", just keeping to a regular schedule (no naps, or extra rest time during the day) puts me back on track within a day or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted October 20, 2018 #11 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I have more trouble sleeping at home than on the ship but you are right about the other pax that are up early banging around in their cabin then slam the door on their way out why can they just hold the door until it closes so need to let it slam shut IMO Next is housekeeping staff in the hall getting ready for the day I have the same issue in hotels ...I am on vacation & I like to sleep in till 8-9am I have no solution for you but understand where you are coming from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted October 20, 2018 #12 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Alcohol tends to disrupt sleep patterns if you are indulging more than you normally would at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vms Posted October 20, 2018 #13 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Have you considered an inside cabin? I find that I sleep much better in an inside cabin than an outside or balcony- I love the total darkness that an inside cabin provides. With an outside or balcony, I am up with the sunrise, even if I've been out late the night before. I hope you find a remedy so you can continue to enjoy cruising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zqvol Posted October 20, 2018 #14 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Caffeine, alcohol, adrenaline, and simply too much excitement are all logical explanations. If OP doesn't have the issue at home, it is not anything to worry about. Just go with the flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPacificbound Posted October 21, 2018 #15 Share Posted October 21, 2018 That must be very frustrating for you. I always sleep very well on cruises, but I also take a sound machine with me to mask the sounds from bothering us. I actually think we sleep too well on ships sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebr.cruiser Posted October 21, 2018 #16 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I don't sleep all that well at home; have decided that 6 hours is just my norm and have quit fighting it. I especially don't sleep well on vacations, whether airplanes, hotels, cruises, etc. I am not sure why and I have tried various OTC remedies without much luck. I don't drink, haven't noticed noises from outside bothering me and our curtains are drawn at night. I think the different surroundings, general excitement, changes in time zones and food that is different from home, as well as too much food all have an effect. It gets better on longer cruises when we have settled down from all the traveling, getting to port, getting settled in, etc., but getting more than 6 hours probably isn't happening for me. I know this isn't helpful advice, but you are not alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thisisgood Posted October 21, 2018 #17 Share Posted October 21, 2018 This happened to me once on my first cruise. I woke up around 2:30am and was wide awake. Unfortunately it is difficult because it's not like I could simply get up and go to another room and turn the light on to read or watch tv (so as to not wakeup hubby.) So, no option but to lie awake for hours, ugh. Most other times I have such a full day with excursions, swimming, meeting new people that I wear myself out and can hardly stay awake during dinner, LOL. Hope you had a good cruise otherwise tho... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted October 21, 2018 #18 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I have had sleep issues for decades when at home or in a hotel. But put me on a cruise ship (we have spent more then 1000 nights on cruise ships) and I usually sleep like a baby :). We do prefer cabins towards the bow (forward of the forward elevators) since we find that part of the ship (on most vessels) to be quiet. The foot traffic outside those forward cabins is limited to only the few souls that are in cabins further forward. If we book a cabin towards amidships then there is constant foot traffic (and plenty of talking) as lots of cruisers and staff walk to and fro past the cabins. We also are careful to choose cabins that are surrounded on all sides, above and below by other cabins. We avoid being near any public areas to avoid any associated noise. Another big benefit of being near the bow is that if the seas are a little rough that part of the ship has the most movement. That movement just rocks me asleep :). Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NantahalaCruiser Posted October 22, 2018 #19 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 12:34 AM, Thisisgood said: This happened to me once on my first cruise. I woke up around 2:30am and was wide awake. Unfortunately it is difficult because it's not like I could simply get up and go to another room and turn the light on to read or watch tv (so as to not wakeup hubby.) So, no option but to lie awake for hours, ugh. Most other times I have such a full day with excursions, swimming, meeting new people that I wear myself out and can hardly stay awake during dinner, LOL. Hope you had a good cruise otherwise tho... When it happens to me, I just throw on some clothes and find a public area with a comfortable chair to sit and read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted October 22, 2018 #20 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 4:26 AM, steveoelliott said: One issue I have found is that I often find it difficult to sleep or remain asleep at night. If I stay out late at night and indulge myself then I tend to get off to sleep nicely but due to background noise of cabin stewards, fellow guests who are early risers and room service etc. I am normally awoken no later than 6am. After this time I really struggle getting back to sleep. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the amount of light in the cabin. These days cabins, even inside cabins, are rarely fully dark. There are tiny lights on TVs, phones, chargers and so on, and if these lights are green or blue it is surprising how much they light up a room. If you are used to sleeping in a very dark room these lights may affect your sleep. I suggest covering as many of them as you can and also try wearing a sleep eye mask. Since you mention you wake around 6am, the onset of daylight may also affect you if the cabin curtains aren't totally effective, and most of them aren't. Again, a sleep eye mask should help. I've suffered from insomnia for many years and noticed a distinct improvement in my sleep since I started using a sleep eye mask every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted October 22, 2018 #21 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 3:34 PM, Thisisgood said: This happened to me once on my first cruise. I woke up around 2:30am and was wide awake. Unfortunately it is difficult because it's not like I could simply get up and go to another room and turn the light on to read or watch tv (so as to not wakeup hubby.) So, no option but to lie awake for hours, ugh. Most other times I have such a full day with excursions, swimming, meeting new people that I wear myself out and can hardly stay awake during dinner, LOL. Hope you had a good cruise otherwise tho... Get yourself an LED booklight, or a Kindle with a built in light. Both of these provide sufficient light to read without disturbing the other person in the cabin. However don't use a tablet, phone or any other backlit device to read on as that sort of light will severely affect the chances of getting any more sleep. The Kindle screen light is a completely different type of technology so doesn't cause problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thisisgood Posted October 22, 2018 #22 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Wow that is good to know. Maybe I'll put it on my Christmas wish list. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mef_57 Posted October 22, 2018 #23 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Keep in mind that light from electronics can keep you awake too. The recommendation is to not use tablets or computers prior to sleep as the direct light into your eyes mess with your circadian clock. If you want to go the ereader route, do a little research to find out which is best. Black font on white background, or white font on black background. A little clip on book light for the traditional book reader shouldn't affect you. As we age, sleep becomes more difficult. I rely on tryptophan and melatonin at home, but when travelling, I need the occasional prescription strength sleep aid after 5 or 6 bad nights. Particularly worse if on travel meds like anti-malarials. I also tend to use ear plugs most night (but then often sleep through the alarm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thisisgood Posted October 22, 2018 #24 Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 hours ago, NantahalaCruiser said: When it happens to me, I just throw on some clothes and find a public area with a comfortable chair to sit and read. Oooh, I bet that is a really unique look at the ship's activities at that hour. Like a behind the scenes kinda thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellbelle28 Posted October 22, 2018 #25 Share Posted October 22, 2018 OP, I feel your pain! I am an ultra light sleeper, easily disturbed, even at home. Any travel, even when I should be exhausted from activity, finds me unable to sleep soundly for any length of time. On my last land trip I tried a melatonin product (useless) and I've tried OTC diphenhydramine based sleep aids (actually make me *more* restless). For me I think it's the unfamiliar bed and pillow, no matter how comfortable, it's different. I do know, the more anxious I feel about it, the worse it gets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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