Rare John&LaLa Posted December 8, 2018 Author #651 Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 hours ago, boscobeans said: Exactly.. And a lot more beneficial to the cruise line than just giving away the staterooms as the Upgrade Fairy did in the past. Pretty sure there would be the same cascade of movement with the upgrade fairly. Or am I missing something.🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pratique Posted December 8, 2018 #652 Share Posted December 8, 2018 For the cruise line, all of those bids are guaranteed money on the table ready for the taking. Travel agents get their cut, an incentive to encourage other clients to bid. That's another cascade effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsmeagain Posted December 8, 2018 #653 Share Posted December 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: Pretty sure there would be the same cascade of movement with the upgrade fairly. Or am I missing something.🤔 The upgrade fairy in the past did not charge, now all the upgrades that cascade pay for the upgrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted December 8, 2018 Author #654 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, itsmeagain said: The upgrade fairy in the past did not charge, now all the upgrades that cascade pay for the upgrade. Obviously, I was referring to the multitude of happy people that get a better cabin. You can be happy even if you pay a bit. 😉🤑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgoodm Posted December 8, 2018 #655 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Yes but an RLS might sell for $25 to $50 thousand. Think the cascade will generate that much? Seems like a lot to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boscobeans Posted December 8, 2018 #656 Share Posted December 8, 2018 7 hours ago, jgoodm said: Yes but an RLS might sell for $25 to $50 thousand. Think the cascade will generate that much? Seems like a lot to me. I doubt the cruise line will get top dollar for the upper suites but they will get something unlike the nothing they used to get back when we all read about passengers getting outrageous free upgrades from lower categories to suites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare bobmacliberty Posted December 8, 2018 #657 Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, boscobeans said: I doubt the cruise line will get top dollar for the upper suites but they will get something unlike the nothing they used to get back when we all read about passengers getting outrageous free upgrades from lower categories to suites. I imagine it would also depend on how far away the cancellation happened from the cruise date. If it's still outside of final, put the cancelled RLS back on the market at full price and see what happens. If there's less time left before the cruise date, trigger the auto upgrade cascade. They now have flexibility either way. I don't know how much the company that manages the bid process gets, but unless it's a flat fee, Royal keeps that money if they sell the cabin themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytygr8 Posted December 8, 2018 #658 Share Posted December 8, 2018 So I guess this is actually legit? I was going to put some min bids for my cruise, but when they asked for a credit card and I looked and saw that the site was “plusgrade.com,” I figured there was a possibility of it being a scam and bailed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted December 8, 2018 #659 Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, wytygr8 said: So I guess this is actually legit? I was going to put some min bids for my cruise, but when they asked for a credit card and I looked and saw that the site was “plusgrade.com,” I figured there was a possibility of it being a scam and bailed. Yes, legit. Maybe Royal expects this to be such a big money maker for them that they decided they could not risk leaving it the hands of their normal crack IT team, so they engaged a third party. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelife Posted December 8, 2018 #660 Share Posted December 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Host Clarea said: Yes, legit. Maybe Royal expects this to be such a big money maker for them that they decided they could not risk leaving it the hands of their normal crack IT team, so they engaged a third party. Good assumption! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted December 8, 2018 #661 Share Posted December 8, 2018 8 hours ago, bobmacliberty said: I imagine it would also depend on how far away the cancellation happened from the cruise date. If it's still outside of final, put the cancelled RLS back on the market at full price and see what happens. If there's less time left before the cruise date, trigger the auto upgrade cascade. They now have flexibility either way. I don't know how much the company that manages the bid process gets, but unless it's a flat fee, Royal keeps that money if they sell the cabin themselves. They put a JS and a Crown loft suite back in the website for our Christmas cruise on Allure 3 weeks prior to sailing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 8, 2018 #662 Share Posted December 8, 2018 6 hours ago, wytygr8 said: but when they asked for a credit card and I looked and saw that the site was “plusgrade.com,” I figured there was a possibility of it being a scam and bailed. Plusgrade is in use by a lot of airlines and a few cruise lines, like Celebrity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted December 9, 2018 #663 Share Posted December 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Biker19 said: Plusgrade is in use by a lot of airlines and a few cruise lines, like Celebrity. Yes, and the modern world is about outsourcing to established providers rather than building your own. When something is successful elsewhere they just adopt it rather than remaking the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare A&L_Ont Posted December 9, 2018 #664 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, The_Big_M said: Yes, and the modern world is about outsourcing to established providers rather than building your own. When something is successful elsewhere they just adopt it rather than remaking the wheel. It’s too bad RC wouldn’t do that with their website. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFerrington Posted December 9, 2018 #665 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 12/8/2018 at 9:40 AM, bobmacliberty said: I imagine it would also depend on how far away the cancellation happened from the cruise date. I agree with this. If the cancellation occurs far enough out, they can probably try and resell it on the open market but if it's close to launch, I would think they would be better off taking the top bid and executing the entire cascade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 9, 2018 #666 Share Posted December 9, 2018 3 hours ago, A&L_Ont said: It’s too bad RC wouldn’t do that with their website. 😂 Maybe not on their web site but RCI does outsource some things: Ernst & Young provided consulting services to Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd., primarily related to its Excalibur technology platform, to the tune of approximately $52m from Jan. 1, 2018, to Dec. 1, 2018. This was on top of approximately $18m in EY fees during 2017. Currently Excalibur-related functionality is available on about 50% of the Royal Caribbean fleet. During RCL's third quarter earnings call in October, CFO Jason Liberty noted that investments in significant technology projects, like Excalibur, were becoming a larger mix of capital expenditures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlawson084 Posted December 9, 2018 #667 Share Posted December 9, 2018 At least they send out “Offer Unsuccessful” emails the day before. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelife Posted December 9, 2018 #668 Share Posted December 9, 2018 4 hours ago, rlawson084 said: At least they send out “Offer Unsuccessful” emails the day before. Thanks for posting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMac Posted December 10, 2018 #669 Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 hours ago, rlawson084 said: At least they send out “Offer Unsuccessful” emails the day before. Thanks for posting. What room class were you attempting to upgrade from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlawson084 Posted December 10, 2018 #670 Share Posted December 10, 2018 44 minutes ago, FloridaMac said: Thanks for posting. What room class were you attempting to upgrade from? Large Balcony. I put in bids for grand suite and owners suite. Both were declined. We we are looking forward to setting sail tomorrow morning and enjoying the 11 night vacation. 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytygr8 Posted December 10, 2018 #671 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Hmm... on 9 day Jewel if the seas. We booked inside for the first time with an inner cabin (previously ocean views) because it was so much cheaper. The following are the min bids to upgrade: ocean view: $30 balcony: $50 no balcony 2b suite: $150 junior suite: $150 Current actual price differences from inner: ocean view: $100 balcony: $573 suites are sold out. Those seem pretty low compared to other mins posted in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 10, 2018 #672 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, wytygr8 said: ocean view: $30 balcony: $50 Current actual price differences from inner: ocean view: $100 balcony: $573 Those seem pretty low compared to other mins posted in here. The min is proportional to the actual diff. They may assume folks are dumb, not look at real prices and hope they overbid, but they do start with reasonable mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mworkman Posted December 16, 2018 #673 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The down side to this program as i see it, if your in a balcony room and want to upgrade to higher catagory room..JS, OS ect...you don't get the perks of 2pts. per day sailing, like you would have if you booked that category room initially. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiGal117 Posted December 16, 2018 #674 Share Posted December 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, mworkman said: The down side to this program as i see it, if your in a balcony room and want to upgrade to higher catagory room..JS, OS ect...you don't get the perks of 2pts. per day sailing, like you would have if you booked that category room initially. True. So I guess the price needs to be right or the desire for more space and the other perks needs to be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted December 16, 2018 #675 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, mworkman said: The down side to this program as i see it, if your in a balcony room and want to upgrade to higher catagory room..JS, OS ect...you don't get the perks of 2pts. per day sailing, like you would have if you booked that category room initially. Not everyone cares about the double points. For example we are so far from the next C and A level that the points are not the top priority, would rather have all the other suite perks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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