Rare WhaleTailFlCruiser Posted January 23, 2020 #1 Share Posted January 23, 2020 https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/nation-world/puerto-rico-oasis-of-the-seas-cruise-ship-passenger-falls/67-111dd3ec-11c3-4ad7-a15f-f2f7e021c0dd?fbclid=IwAR0j1xDHMouTF9Y5Q0V1Z7Zvk0oeE-lk7rcHGWIyBPZnlBhEO03UE1dXi08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debshomespun Posted January 23, 2020 #2 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) Updated https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2020/01/articles/disappearances/man-goes-overboard-from-oasis-of-the-seas/ Divers have found a "white male" Edited January 23, 2020 by debshomespun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted January 23, 2020 #3 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Nope no-one “falls” 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted January 23, 2020 #4 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Michael Winkleman is on the way..... 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsam12 Posted January 23, 2020 #5 Share Posted January 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said: Nope no-one “falls” They do if they aren't following basic safety standards... climbing on railings, leaning over balconies etc. Based on the information available to date, there is no way to establish if he fell, jumped, or was pushed or thrown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted January 23, 2020 #6 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Well that's the second person overboard on an Atlantis charter. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted January 23, 2020 #7 Share Posted January 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, debshomespun said: Updated https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2020/01/articles/disappearances/man-goes-overboard-from-oasis-of-the-seas/ Divers have found a "white male" PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not click on links to that ambulance-chasing, lowlife attorney's website. 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonsai3s Posted January 23, 2020 #8 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare puppycanducruise Posted January 23, 2020 #9 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Sympathy to his family and friends. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted January 23, 2020 #10 Share Posted January 23, 2020 7 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said: Nope no-one “falls” Sure they do. Someone could be drunk and sit up on a railing and fall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHCruisin Posted January 23, 2020 #11 Share Posted January 23, 2020 This doesn't surprise me. I have a cruise friend that has done the Atlantis cruises and he's told me they get pretty wild. It's amazing to me how many drugs make it onto the ship. Not saying that's what happened here, but he certainly didn't just fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaritimeR&R Posted January 23, 2020 #12 Share Posted January 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, OHCruisin said: This doesn't surprise me. I have a cruise friend that has done the Atlantis cruises and he's told me they get pretty wild. It's amazing to me how many drugs make it onto the ship. Not saying that's what happened here, but he certainly didn't just fall. I believe deck 10 has no public spaces. It is all cabins, so he must have left the ship via a balcony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Drock20J Posted January 23, 2020 #13 Share Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, time4u2go said: Sure they do. Someone could be drunk and sit up on a railing and fall. All of those actions are intentional. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not-enough-cruising Posted January 23, 2020 #14 Share Posted January 23, 2020 8 hours ago, PhoenixCruiser said: Well that's the second person overboard on an Atlantis charter. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Not to mention the over-dose death(s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHCruisin Posted January 23, 2020 #15 Share Posted January 23, 2020 This article states it was intentional. https://abcnews.go.com/US/passenger-oasis-seas-cruise-ship-dies-overboard/story?id=68472409&cid=clicksource_4380645_4_three_posts_card_hed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joebucks Posted January 23, 2020 #16 Share Posted January 23, 2020 I can't stand these stories. 1 person decides to do something dumb out of tens of thousands, maybe hundreds. It becomes a hot topic because "dangerous cruise ships" are a hot topic that people will click on. Then many more people misinterpret what really happens on ships because they are so woke from reading the news. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare vacationlover_mn Posted January 23, 2020 #17 Share Posted January 23, 2020 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1213 Posted January 23, 2020 #18 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Drock20J said: All of those actions are intentional. By definition, a "fall" does not mean intentional or unintentional. It purely means to drop or descend. Now, colloquially, American English may use "fall" as an unintentional act, but there's nothing incorrect about saying someone fell intentionally. Edited January 23, 2020 by Zach1213 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted January 23, 2020 #19 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Merion_Mom said: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not click on links to that ambulance-chasing, lowlife attorney's website. No one on this website has ever posted that anything from Cruise Law News is wrong, incorrect, not factual. Not sure why people here love to smear the guy. I see him as a consumers advocate and until he demonstrably pushes a false agenda I see no reason for hyperbolic posts like yours. It honestly seems like attempts are made by forum posters to White Knight the cruise industry and pretend nothing bad happens. We didn't ask you to babysit the news we receive. Like I said; show me a false agenda and I'll ignore this as a source. Edited January 23, 2020 by LMaxwell 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyank Posted January 23, 2020 #20 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Zach1213 said: By definition, a "fall" does not mean intentional or unintentional. It purely means to drop or descend. Now, colloquially, American English may use "fall" as an unintentional act, but there's nothing incorrect about saying someone fell intentionally. intentional or unintentional, from deck 10 to the ocean the results are usually the same. Edited January 23, 2020 by crazyank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1213 Posted January 23, 2020 #21 Share Posted January 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, crazyank said: intentional or unintentional, from deck 10 to the ocean the results are usually the same. Never said it didn't, and that really doesn't have anything to do with my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted January 23, 2020 #22 Share Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Drock20J said: All of those actions are intentional. No they're not. Climbing onto the rail is intentional. Going into the water from there might be intentional or not. A person can be drunk enough that they lose their balance and fall over. Or there could be a gust of wind that blows them off of the rail. That is most definitely not intentional. Edited January 23, 2020 by time4u2go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thjeepster Posted January 23, 2020 #23 Share Posted January 23, 2020 This guy lives in my area and just about the same age as me.....needless to say I have been getting a lot of phone calls today seeing if I answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WonderMan3 Posted January 23, 2020 #24 Share Posted January 23, 2020 13 hours ago, PhoenixCruiser said: Well that's the second person overboard on an Atlantis charter. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk People go overboard (staff and passengers) all the time regardless if it's a charter or not. Statistics put the average at around one to two per month. There were 23 man overboard incidents in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F27TW Posted January 23, 2020 #25 Share Posted January 23, 2020 He must have been really loaded drunk (or otherwise) to actually die from a fall off Deck 10 into the water .. esp since the ship wasnt moving. It's high, but I wouldnt think that would be enough of a drop into the water to kill you .. but then again its all in how you hit the water, i suppose .. so he hadda be wasted and then drowned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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