Stateroom_Sailor Posted March 7, 2020 #926 Share Posted March 7, 2020 MSC Opera is now having their own issues: https://nypost.com/2020/03/05/2300-left-cruise-ship-after-passenger-tested-positive-for-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR2bGZaeAHXyud3Nxb7gyjJfbKEVpDZWzjy4M7bAHXuXpi-PCPbQwu0dJY0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wincheshandles Posted March 7, 2020 #927 Share Posted March 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, wincheshandles said: Thanks I will go for a rainy walk Pier 27 is quiet with the exception of 4 or 5 media trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserchuck Posted March 7, 2020 #928 Share Posted March 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, ceilidh1 said: Yes Someone on the rollcall just posted that the building has been closed? No idea what that means? Hopefully it does not mean that they just released 2,600 passengers from the prior cruise who might be infected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted March 7, 2020 #929 Share Posted March 7, 2020 According to https://wtop.com/asia/2020/03/coronavirus-concerns-stalls-cruise-ship-off-california/ the Coast Guard dropped a supply of masks and gloves onto the Grand Princess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted March 7, 2020 #930 Share Posted March 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Stateroom_Sailor said: MSC Opera is now having their own issues: https://nypost.com/2020/03/05/2300-left-cruise-ship-after-passenger-tested-positive-for-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR2bGZaeAHXyud3Nxb7gyjJfbKEVpDZWzjy4M7bAHXuXpi-PCPbQwu0dJY0 Sounds a bit like neither MSC or Greece wanted to be involved anymore that they have too. So took alternative approach - If we look away and you all run it will be fine - Honest! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted March 7, 2020 #931 Share Posted March 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, wincheshandles said: Pier 27 is quiet with the exception of 4 or 5 media trucks. I guess they redirected the supply trucks to some other place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted March 7, 2020 #932 Share Posted March 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, rimmit said: We sailed a Med cruise on her summer of 1999. She was a beast back then. The worlds largest shopping cart as many liked to call her. I remember pulling into Venice with her and all the locals complained about her size. She’s just a midsize ship now by today’s standards. I was on the Ocean Princess right after 9/11 ... rather worried until I saw the Grand Princess in port with us. She was huge (in comparison to the Ocean). Now, she's such a little peewee ship! 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2cruisesoon Posted March 7, 2020 #933 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) I have verified information that the Grand will dock in Oakland this weekend. Surveyors are looking at the old Oakland terminals to verify fitment. Edited March 7, 2020 by need2cruisesoon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted March 7, 2020 #934 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, phil the brit said: And not enough thought into the "cruise ship problem". What a mess, from no test kits available to not having enough masks. Who does these peoples thinking for them. After the Diamond Princess problem you would think there would be a pallet of masks in the hold. The masks are only effective for 15 minutes or so and once they become damp they actually trap the virus inside. There are simply not enough masks to do the job. In Aus we are being told not to wear them unless you yourself have the virus. Medical personnel who actually know all this and how to use them, must wear them. As regards to the test kits available. This virus was only really known about since January. It's March. A test had to be developed, produced and distributed. How on earth could 'the world' produce enough test kits with such high demand, and people needing multiple tests. The logistics are overwhelming and which is why every attempt is being made to slow the spread down. Cruise ships unfortunately are accelerating it. Edited March 7, 2020 by Pushka 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stateroom_Sailor Posted March 7, 2020 #935 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) This is starting to get out of hand. We're now seeing the effects of breaches made 7-21 days ago, I highly suggest avoiding cruising for the time being. CARNIVAL PANORAMA MARCH 7, 2020 March 7, 2020 Dear Carnival Panorama Guests, We want to provide you with an update for our embarkation plans for today. There is a medical matter involving a guest currently on board that has caused authorities to suspend the debarkation process. Although the guest in question does not meet CDC criteria for coronavirus risk, officials still require additional information. Our shore side medical team is in direct contact with authorities and debarkation will resume as soon as we have received clearance from local authorities. At this time, we do not have an estimate as to when embarkation for today's cruise will start. Since we have limited seating, please do not proceed to the cruise terminal until you have heard from us. A US$15, per person, lunch credit will be posted on your Sail & Sign account so you can enjoy lunch on us during this delay. We will keep you updated as we have more information. All future updates will be by text. If you haven't already done so, we kindly ask that you sign up by texting CCL3 to 278473 (CRUISE). We sincerely apologize for this delay and thank you for your understanding. Sincerely, Edited March 7, 2020 by Stateroom_Sailor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted March 7, 2020 #936 Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, need2cruisesoon said: I have verified information that the Grand will dock in Oakland this weekend. Surveyors are looking at the old Oakland terminals to verify fitment. That makes sense having a survey of the pier performed due to them not being used for awhile for such a large vessel. Where did you get this information from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ceilidh1 Posted March 7, 2020 #937 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Is this true? Maybe Royal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragilek Posted March 7, 2020 #938 Share Posted March 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Pushka said: The masks are only effective for 15 minutes or so and once they become damp they actually trap the virus inside. There are simply not enough masks to do the job. In Aus we are being told not to wear them unless you yourself have the virus. As regards to the test kits available. This virus was only really known about since January. It's March. A test had to be developed, produced and distributed. How on earth could 'the world' produce enough test kits with such high demand, and people needing multiple tests. The logistics are overwhelming and which is why every attempt is being made to slow the spread down. Cruise ships unfortunately are accelerating it. the 15-30 mins is for surgical type masks - there are others designed to last for much longer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguyjake Posted March 7, 2020 #939 Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, ceilidh1 said: Is this true? Maybe Royal? Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushka Posted March 7, 2020 #940 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, fragilek said: the 15-30 mins is for surgical type masks - there are others designed to last for much longer However the numpties who are flogging the masks are just flogging anything, thinking they are safe and then likely neglecting to do the basic rule which is wash hands well and frequently. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted March 7, 2020 #941 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, flyguyjake said: Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess both panorama and royal princess ships have suspended embarkation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserchuck Posted March 7, 2020 #942 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, flyguyjake said: Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess As mentioned above, folks on the Royal thread for today's departure have indicated boarding has been delayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glam mistress Posted March 7, 2020 #943 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, BermudaBound2014 said: both panorama and royal princess ships have suspended embarkation. What a damn debacle. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted March 7, 2020 #944 Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Stateroom_Sailor said: This is starting to get out of hand. We're now seeing the effects of breaches made 7-21 days ago, I highly suggest avoiding cruising for the time being. CARNIVAL PANORAMA MARCH 7, 2020 March 7, 2020 Dear Carnival Panorama Guests, We want to provide you with an update for our embarkation plans for today. There is a medical matter involving a guest currently on board that has caused authorities to suspend the debarkation process. Although the guest in question does not meet CDC criteria for coronavirus risk, officials still require additional information. Our shore side medical team is in direct contact with authorities and debarkation will resume as soon as we have received clearance from local authorities. At this time, we do not have an estimate as to when embarkation for today's cruise will start. Since we have limited seating, please do not proceed to the cruise terminal until you have heard from us. A US$15, per person, lunch credit will be posted on your Sail & Sign account so you can enjoy lunch on us during this delay. We will keep you updated as we have more information. All future updates will be by text. If you haven't already done so, we kindly ask that you sign up by texting CCL3 to 278473 (CRUISE). We sincerely apologize for this delay and thank you for your understanding. Sincerely, the way I am reading above it is saying the person has symptoms but they can't test per cdc. Is there not a medical dr. on board that can request the test...this is no time to guess on this stuff. Agree no time to be cruising. One after another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
need2cruisesoon Posted March 7, 2020 #945 Share Posted March 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, brisalta said: That makes sense having a survey of the pier performed due to them not being used for awhile for such a large vessel. Where did you get this information from? Local tugboat Captain. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kathy49 Posted March 7, 2020 #946 Share Posted March 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, ceilidh1 said: Is this true? Maybe Royal? wow...that could be trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimanjo Posted March 7, 2020 #947 Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, flyguyjake said: Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess Does this possibly include guest entertainers? Do they do short stints and go from ship to ship? I was recently on a Seabourn cruise and they had a young lady who was only on for a few days. Then moving on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ceilidh1 Posted March 7, 2020 #948 Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, flyguyjake said: Yes VP Pence just said this in his news Q&A. Could be either the Panorama or the Royal Princess Carnival doesn't share crew with Princess. Completely separate in terms of employment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ceilidh1 Posted March 7, 2020 #949 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Just now, kimanjo said: Does this possibly include guest entertainers? Do they do short stints and go from ship to ship? I was recently on a Seabourn cruise and they had a young lady who was only on for a few days. Then moving on. Oh, this could be possible..... Not actual crew though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maizer Posted March 7, 2020 #950 Share Posted March 7, 2020 1 minute ago, cruiserchuck said: As mentioned above, folks on the Royal thread for today's departure have indicated boarding has been delayed. Honestly would you board knowing that its very likely a crew member or back to back passenger has it and you'll be quarantined? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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