Cruise ports that are welcoming cruisers back when the companies are ready

[seaman11]

5 hours ago, Mrdodgy said:

Superb comment - Seaman 11 falls for every bit of advertising he sees and believe it. He does not recognise the difference between  PR and industry interests and marketing and real news. And when he see real news he gets it wrong such as the NCL to have a new plan. The picture he posst is industry self interested parties. 

 

In that article there are no facts so I am sorry seaman "fake news".

 

 

Its not fake news. Because you dont believe they would accept ships when the ships have appeased the cdc and are  ready to sail. thete have been multiple reports.     We will see what happens in a few months. Still a lot of time.  

[Nclcruise1415]

4 hours ago, Yorkvillain said:

 

 

Agreed. I’m sure he is a very nice guy however his videos and over the top opinions are trash.

 

Agree 100%. I don't put much stock into his newsworthy posts. Bruce generally does a nice job and clearly has some nice connections in the industry.

[seaman11]

5 minutes ago, Nclcruise1415 said:

Agree 100%. I don't put much stock into his newsworthy posts. Bruce generally does a nice job and clearly has some nice connections in the industry.

Id like to hear the reasoning on why the Bahamas would still block ships once the cdc has been appeased and sailing can resume.  Their covid numbers have dropped off. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en-US&sxsrf=ALeKk015wcuETRTvL18FG-4orkVmxI11tw%3A1590149839868&ei=z8LHXr7ENKKlytMP-ayXmA4&q=Coronavirus+bhamas&oq=Coronavirus+bhamas&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAM6BwgAEEcQsAM6BAgjECc6BQgAEJECOgIIADoFCAAQgwFQhiBYij1g9EBoAXAAeACAAbYBiAG5BpIBAzMuNJgBAKABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#wptab=s:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLVT9c3NMwySk6OL8zJecTYwMgt8PLHPWGp8klrTl5jLOQS901NyUzOzEt1ySxOTSxO9clPTizJzM8T0uNic80rySypFFLhEpRCNUeDQYqfC1VISI2LA65XiotHikM_V9_A0MygHKiYiwvO49nFxO2RmphTkhFcklhSvIhVNiQjVcEpMSMxN7FYwTm_KD8vsSyzqLRYoRgkDwCnE5JhwwAAAA

Edited May 22, 2020 by seaman11

[beerman2]

48 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

Its not fake news. Because you dont believe they would accept ships when the ships have appeased the cdc and are  ready to sail. thete have been multiple reports.     We will see what happens in a few months. Still a lot of time.  

Seeing what happens in a few months puts us into Sept, which is exactly what Del Rio said.

He sees cruising in Late 3Q/Early 4Q.

 

As I've said before once the guidelines/regulations are known and cruise lines can adhere to them , all will be good.

 

A little off topic buts just to shed a little light on things, the pool at our condo association will likely NOT open due to the constraints we've been given.

 

We HAVE to observe all the recommendations/mandates or our insurance company probably won't cover any accidents, per our Association Lawyers.

 

 

[AstoriaPreppy]

15 hours ago, odie1024 said:

We are sailing out of  NYC and ending in New Orleans. Stops in the Domincan Republic, ABC islands, Jamaica, Cozumel and Grand Cayman.

 

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I'd be very surprised if any NY/NJ departures happens this year. Even if the Govs Cuomo or Murphy permit sailing, I don't know that cruise lines would want to assume the risk. 

 

We looked at booking this voyage on the Breakaway to use up our FCC and cruisenext certificates, and decided even attempting to plan on this voyage would be a bust. NYC and New Orleans are both COVID-19 epicenters in the US right now, and I can't realistically see NY opening back up to any arrivals/departures this year (even if things flatten locally).

We've also looked at the pre-Christmas Southampton-NY transatlantic on the QM2 for this year. I've booked flights and hotels that are refundable, but we're also assuming that trip won't be a go either because of arrival into Brooklyn. 

[pcakes122]

I think we need to stop making any correlation between "things opening up" (e.g. restaurants, parks, retail businesses, land casinos) and cruising.  There is no comparison.

 

What we really need to watch for is the opening up of stadiums and the resumption of concerts, sporting events and other large gatherings.  Once you start hearing about those venues and activities opening up, that's when to start getting hopeful about cruising.

 

It's the CROWDS, people.  THAT is the issue.  I don't know why folks can't see that clearly.

[Charles4515]

Id like to hear the reasoning on why the Bahamas would still block ships once the cdc has been appeased and sailing can resume.  Their covid numbers have dropped off. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en-US&sxsrf=ALeKk015wcuETRTvL18FG-4orkVmxI11tw%3A1590149839868&ei=z8LHXr7ENKKlytMP-ayXmA4&q=Coronavirus+bhamas&oq=Coronavirus+bhamas&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAM6BwgAEEcQsAM6BAgjECc6BQgAEJECOgIIADoFCAAQgwFQhiBYij1g9EBoAXAAeACAAbYBiAG5BpIBAzMuNJgBAKABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#wptab=s:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLVT9c3NMwySk6OL8zJecTYwMgt8PLHPWGp8klrTl5jLOQS901NyUzOzEt1ySxOTSxO9clPTizJzM8T0uNic80rySypFFLhEpRCNUeDQYqfC1VISI2LA65XiotHikM_V9_A0MygHKiYiwvO49nFxO2RmphTkhFcklhSvIhVNiQjVcEpMSMxN7FYwTm_KD8vsSyzqLRYoRgkDwCnE5JhwwAAAA

 

Caribbean islands don’t have the medical facilities and infrastructure of first world countries. So they might want to avoid tourists bringing it in and spreading it to their local population.

 

 

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[seaman11]

1 hour ago, beerman2 said:

Seeing what happens in a few months puts us into Sept, which is exactly what Del Rio said.

He sees cruising in Late 3Q/Early 4Q.

 

As I've said before once the guidelines/regulations are known and cruise lines can adhere to them , all will be good.

 

A little off topic buts just to shed a little light on things, the pool at our condo association will likely NOT open due to the constraints we've been given.

 

We HAVE to observe all the recommendations/mandates or our insurance company probably won't cover any accidents, per our Association Lawyers.

 

 

Where i am its may. What month is it where you live? 

Edited May 22, 2020 by seaman11

[zqvol]

19 hours ago, seaman11 said:

There have been many stating where would the cruises go , no one or country would want them back this summer. 

 

 

well here is the update on which ones  are ready for cruise ships again. 

 

 

 

 

Why would you believe a travel agent on something like this. He has a vested interest in getting things moving and keeping people excited, he doesn't care about reality.

[zqvol]

16 hours ago, seaman11 said:

well we know there wont be any cruises till august, so i think he means by then these places are welcoming cruise ships. as i had said, before many times, they miss the tourism money. 

 

Cruises out of the US are not likely to begin before the first of the year after the next wave of the epidemic is over.

[seaman11]

4 minutes ago, zqvol said:

 

Cruises out of the US are not likely to begin before the first of the year after the next wave of the epidemic is over.

Acording to whom?  Business cant afford to take that long to get going.  Places like the Bahamas already have low numbers in may.  With vetting and such by the ships. I can't imagine theses ports  would block ships if the cdc says its ok.  

[sanger727]

All of this opening back up is conjecture at this point. Yes, they would love tourism dollars. But wait until the first ship declares someone onboard with "flu like symptoms" and see how much they actually want those tourism dollars. It will be back to ports refusing docking and people stuck at sea unless they have accurate and instant COVID test onboard to prove what it's not.

[beerman2]

45 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

Where i am its may. What month is it where you live? 

That makes no sense whatsoever 

 

Read your post #26 you were talking about months and that’s exactly what my post is about.

Edited May 22, 2020 by beerman2

[seaman11]

25 minutes ago, beerman2 said:

That makes no sense whatsoever 

 

Read your post #26 you were talking about months and that’s exactly what my post is about.

Yes but im talking a couple of months not sept.  As you mentioned.  

 

Also look at this. 

 

https://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/reopening-the-casinos-restarting-high-school-sports-drive-ins-back-in-style-and-more/article_a2919963-be95-590e-8a37-f90c49a9d2a1.html

[beerman2]

1 minute ago, seaman11 said:

Yes but im talking a couple of months not sept.  As you mentioned.  

 

Also look at this. 

 

https://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/reopening-the-casinos-restarting-high-school-sports-drive-ins-back-in-style-and-more/article_a2919963-be95-590e-8a37-f90c49a9d2a1.html

So you think you have a better idea of what Is going on than NCL’s CEO does?
 

Del Rio is ON record as saying late 3Q/early 4Q.

Isn’t that saying Sept/Oct?

[seaman11]

1 hour ago, pcakes122 said:

I think we need to stop making any correlation between "things opening up" (e.g. restaurants, parks, retail businesses, land casinos) and cruising.  There is no comparison.

 

What we really need to watch for is the opening up of stadiums and the resumption of concerts, sporting events and other large gatherings.  Once you start hearing about those venues and activities opening up, that's when to start getting hopeful about cruising.

 

It's the CROWDS, people.  THAT is the issue.  I don't know why folks can't see that clearly.

Right because 60,000 fans gathered together is the same as ships half full holding a few thousand .  🙄

Edited May 22, 2020 by seaman11

[seaman11]

7 minutes ago, beerman2 said:

So you think you have a better idea of what Is going on than NCL’s CEO does?
 

Del Rio is ON record as saying late 3Q/early 4Q.

Isn’t that saying Sept/Oct?

Thats true but ncl isnt the only cruiseline out there.  Ncl seems to have thrown in the towel for the summer. Carnivals plan for aug seems good at the moment .  also ...

 

https://www.caribjournal.com/2020/04/24/bahamas-cruise-paradise-line/

Edited May 22, 2020 by seaman11

[beerman2]

2 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

Thats true but ncl isnt the only cruiseline out there.  Ncl seems to have thrown in the towel.  Carnivals plan for aug seems good at the moment .  also ...

 

https://www.caribjournal.com/2020/04/24/bahamas-cruise-paradise-line/

NO cruise line is going to sail before the other. They are competitive if 1 sails ALL 3 will sail.

 

Thinking otherwise isn’t thinking logical.

[pcakes122]

18 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

Right because 60,000 fans gathered together is the same as ships half full holding a few thousand .  🙄

No, because when you go to stadiums for ballgames and concerts, you can't "social distance" in a crowd.  There is no way to do that effectively with thousands of people. Between the entry and service lines and the size of the passageways, it's just not feasible.  You have been on cruises before.  Were you 6 feet from every other person at all times?  Go back and remember the process from embarkation through debarkation and tell me that you truly believe it is possible to keep everyone six foot away from each other.  Also, masks are not the answer to replace social distancing on a ship - masks are useless on a ship.  People will need to take them off to eat, drink and smoke - so what good are they really??  Never mind the issue that there is not adequate medical care on a ship SHOULD there be a breakout.  If you get Covid-19, you NEED a doctor and proper medical treatment immediately (trust me on this.)  Even if they COULD MediVac you, tell me how many countries are guaranteed to accept incoming Covid cases.

 

And not every concert or theater venue holds 60,000.  The average Broadway theater capacity is 1700.  Have you heard about them "opening up" yet?  

 

I know you are anxious and hopeful, we ALL are.  But we have to be reasonable and look at the facts and compare apples to apples.

Edited May 22, 2020 by pcakes122

[PortFees45]

5 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

Thats true but ncl isnt the only cruiseline out there.  Ncl seems to have thrown in the towel for the summer. Carnivals plan for aug seems good at the moment .  also ...

 

https://www.caribjournal.com/2020/04/24/bahamas-cruise-paradise-line/

This link is from April 24. NCL said they'd be resuming cruises in June then, too. 

 

I mean this sincerely, Seaman...there are other ways to enjoy life than going on cruises.

[seaman11]

13 minutes ago, beerman2 said:

NO cruise line is going to sail before the other. They are competitive if 1 sails ALL 3 will sail.

 

Thinking otherwise isn’t thinking logical.

Well once they see carnivals plan is coming along i do thing rcl and ncl will follow suit but that could be weeks later.  

 

 

And to the other poster. The bahamas cruiseline doesnt have to compmy with the cdc order. So they very well resume in june/july. Their numbers are very low for covid. 

Edited May 22, 2020 by seaman11

[pcakes122]

15 minutes ago, beerman2 said:

So you think you have a better idea of what Is going on than NCL’s CEO does?
 

Del Rio is ON record as saying late 3Q/early 4Q.

Isn’t that saying Sept/Oct?

And folks should listen to this recent interview with Royal CEO Richard Fain.  He clearly says they are not sure they are coming back in August and details what would need to be true before they come back.  NCL is not coming back before Royal Caribbean.

 

 

[billyu]

3 hours ago, seaman11 said:

Id like to hear the reasoning on why the Bahamas would still block ships once the cdc has been appeased and sailing can resume.  Their covid numbers have dropped off. 

 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en-US&sxsrf=ALeKk015wcuETRTvL18FG-4orkVmxI11tw%3A1590149839868&ei=z8LHXr7ENKKlytMP-ayXmA4&q=Coronavirus+bhamas&oq=Coronavirus+bhamas&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAM6BwgAEEcQsAM6BAgjECc6BQgAEJECOgIIADoFCAAQgwFQhiBYij1g9EBoAXAAeACAAbYBiAG5BpIBAzMuNJgBAKABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#wptab=s:H4sIAAAAAAAAAONgVuLVT9c3NMwySk6OL8zJecTYwMgt8PLHPWGp8klrTl5jLOQS901NyUzOzEt1ySxOTSxO9clPTizJzM8T0uNic80rySypFFLhEpRCNUeDQYqfC1VISI2LA65XiotHikM_V9_A0MygHKiYiwvO49nFxO2RmphTkhFcklhSvIhVNiQjVcEpMSMxN7FYwTm_KD8vsSyzqLRYoRgkDwCnE5JhwwAAAA

It has nothing to do with numbers from the destination.  You have to look at the numbers from the country of origin.  And right now the US and Canada are not at that point with great numbers. 

[seaman11]

Pancake you can bet if carnival gets going in august. Both ncl and rcl will follow suit.  Of course i do admit there could be a covid setback.  However i like carnivals plan .  

[harkinmr]

19 hours ago, pcakes122 said:

I was surprised that the Bahamas is so anxious as the fellow in this video states, so I did a quick Google search.  This was as of May 18th:

 

Tribune Business reports Bahamian Prime Minister Dr Hubert Minnis announced the country is considering plans to resume domestic travel.

 

"We are looking at a possible date for commercial travel on or before July 1 of this year," he said. "These dates may change depending on the circumstance. I want to repeat, however, that this date is not final."

 

"It will be adjusted if we see a deterioration of the COVID-19 infection trends or if we’ve determined that the protocols and procedures are not in place sufficiently to warrant this opening."

 

I think the guy in the video is overstating a bit.

This guy overstates everything!  He has nothing to back up his statements and the OP seems to quote him like he knows what he's talking about.  Don is a travel agent who is just worried about his business and has done nothing but misinform his viewers for the last 2 months.  It's shameful!