Required ship excursions if getting off the ship

[getting older slowly]

Wow...... living the country, poker machine, and what nots... slightly off topic

 

17 hours ago, KirkNC said:

So back on cruising with ships shore excursions, not for us.  The more I read about the initial new cruise world, the less likely we will be onboard.  My fear is that it is difficult to unwind those restrictions as circumstances change especially when the cruise line makes lots of money on a restriction.

 

It will be interesting... one issue if excursions are expected to keep social distancing.... there will reduced numbers and lose of profit......

So what could end up happening .... is cruise ship excursions.. I think are mainly to keep people in a bubble and they know where everybody is and separated from the public... in that case... tour numbers will increase and more profit.....

 

untill Covid is under control   it will be the norm after wards    no idea

 

Would i go a cruise if the only way, one was allowed to leave the ship was an escorted tour ?  NO

 

Don

[ilikeanswers]

21 minutes ago, getting older slowly said:

tour numbers will increase and more profit.....

 

It will be great for the cruise line but imagine after awhile locals might get a little annoyed because only those with ship contracts will be making money off cruise passengers while everyone will miss out 😳. I can't see this being sustainable in the long term🤔. 

[getting older slowly]

1 hour ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

It will be great for the cruise line but imagine after awhile locals might get a little annoyed because only those with ship contracts will be making money off cruise passengers while everyone will miss out 😳. I can't see this being sustainable in the long term🤔. 

 

I can see that being the case......  but hopefully not for long.... otherwise the cruise ship will not be welcome 

[ontheweb]

On 9/28/2020 at 8:26 AM, KirkNC said:

So back on cruising with ships shore excursions, not for us.  The more I read about the initial new cruise world, the less likely we will be onboard.  My fear is that it is difficult to unwind those restrictions as circumstances change especially when the cruise line makes lots of money on a restriction.

I predicted the same thing in a different thread; they will not give up a money maker.

[Toofarfromthesea]

19 hours ago, 2wheelin said:

Maybe all the farmers can move to the city and you can grow your own food.

 

Really?  Our food is being grown by 94 year olds who have no way of getting groceries except by going in person?

[Love.II.Cruise]

I wouldn't want my only choice to be an escorted tour.  So many times we have done some awesome private excursions that were just so memorable.  Half the fun in planning for excursions, leading up to your cruise, that are better than what the cruise line is offering. Other times, when we've been in a port multiple times, we may just want to walk off the ship and go to our favorite Tapa's restaurant.  Actually, can't do that in Barcelona anymore, our favorite Tapa's restaurant closed.  😪

[shipgeeks]

For anyone who is curious about what a ship excursion might be like at the moment, I highly recommend reading, on the Celebrity board, "Live-ish report.....Greece with TUI Cruises", by Miaminice.  The entire thread is very interesting and informative. The excursion review is on page 7.

[ilikeanswers]

6 hours ago, shipgeeks said:

For anyone who is curious about what a ship excursion might be like at the moment, I highly recommend reading, on the Celebrity board, "Live-ish report.....Greece with TUI Cruises", by Miaminice.  The entire thread is very interesting and informative. The excursion review is on page 7.

 

https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2760901-liveish-report-first-real-cruise-this-year-greece-with-tui-cruises-mein-schiff-6-927/

[SelectSys]

On 9/30/2020 at 10:53 AM, shipgeeks said:

For anyone who is curious about what a ship excursion might be like at the moment, I highly recommend reading, on the Celebrity board, "Live-ish report.....Greece with TUI Cruises", by Miaminice.  The entire thread is very interesting and informative. The excursion review is on page 7.

 

What great work by @Miaminice!  Finally some positive, first person reporting from our community!  I would be more likely to book a cruise after reading this experience than before.

[ldubs]

On 9/29/2020 at 10:39 AM, Toofarfromthesea said:

 

Really?  Our food is being grown by 94 year olds who have no way of getting groceries except by going in person?

 

I think you need to double check the post you are quoting. It had nothing to do with 94 year olds.  

 

I actually don't even understand this whole argument.  Some folks by virtue of any number of situations may have fewer options than others.   We don't just tell them to eat cake.   

[getting older slowly]

1 hour ago, ldubs said:

We don't just tell them to eat cake.   

 

On a lighter note.....  What type of cake ??

[Toofarfromthesea]

1 hour ago, ldubs said:

 

I think you need to double check the post you are quoting. It had nothing to do with 94 year olds.  

 

I actually don't even understand this whole argument.  Some folks by virtue of any number of situations may have fewer options than others.   We don't just tell them to eat cake.   

 

No go back further - to the post trying to shame people because their 94 year old father is being put at risk in his once a week trips to the grocery store.

Edited October 1, 2020 by Toofarfromthesea

[ldubs]

1 hour ago, getting older slowly said:

 

On a lighter note.....  What type of cake ??

 

I think it was brioche!  haha.   

 

I know.  I do need to lighten up.   

 

 

[ldubs]

1 hour ago, Toofarfromthesea said:

 

No go back further - to the post trying to shame people because their 94 year old father is being put at risk in his once a week trips to the grocery store.

 

I understand but I thought the comment about farmers moving to the burbs was separate from that.  Could be that I was mistaken.  Anyway, it must be a slow day for all of us!     

[getting older slowly]

 

That will go lovely with a cuppa..... Thanks Don

 

At least the photo has on calories...... lol

 

[ilikeanswers]

2 hours ago, getting older slowly said:

On a lighter note.....  What type of cake ??

 

Chocolate lava cake🤗

[2wheelin]

1 hour ago, ldubs said:

 

I understand but I thought the comment about farmers moving to the burbs was separate from that.  Could be that I was mistaken.  Anyway, it must be a slow day for all of us!     

You are correct. Some others just can’t accept that they are privileged to have choices others don’t have the luxury of. Shoot! I ended that with a preposition but you all get the point. 🙂🙂

Yup, slow day.

[ilikeanswers]

1 hour ago, 2wheelin said:

You are correct. Some others just can’t accept that they are privileged to have choices others don’t have the luxury of. Shoot! I ended that with a preposition but you all get the point. 🙂🙂

Yup, slow day.

 

I think people just don't like to admit that luck does play a part in our lives. They like to believe everything in their life is in their control and as long as you work hard you should be prepared for every eventuality. Apart from preppers  realistically how many people contemplate if the place they are living will be suitable during a pandemic😕? Just because you get unlucky doesn't mean as a society we should be happy to let them fall through the cracks. We too have a choice in how we treat and care for unlucky individuals. 

[ontheweb]

13 hours ago, getting older slowly said:

 

On a lighter note.....  What type of cake ??

Chocolate melting cake, after all this is a cruise forum.

[HxFx]

9 hours ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

I think people just don't like to admit that luck does play a part in our lives. They like to believe everything in their life is in their control and as long as you work hard you should be prepared for every eventuality. Apart from preppers  realistically how many people contemplate if the place they are living will be suitable during a pandemic😕? Just because you get unlucky doesn't mean as a society we should be happy to let them fall through the cracks. We too have a choice in how we treat and care for unlucky individuals. 

Perhaps not specific to a pandemic but I do think there are folks that consciously and purposefully move to places that are more isolated (and definitely not saying there is anything wrong with that). I think the point is that society can’t accommodate every disadvantage that may occur in life. We can try to help of course. In this situation, if there are folks who cannot get their goods delivered and are indeed high risk, perhaps we should focus on reach-out programs for those not fortunate enough to have a family member or friend that is able to help out. 

 

Keeping an entire society restricted for this length of time is not fair or healthy. There is more to life than essential activities and we shouldn’t shame folks for wanting to cruise, go out to eat, or do something that is otherwise not a human necessity. Many of these things are not only what makes life worth living but definitely needed for our mental stability. Not a fan of judging someone by what that is - we all have different needs.  And of course we’ve established that many of these “non-essential” activities provide employment to a whole lot of folks.

[ilikeanswers]

13 minutes ago, HxFx said:

Keeping an entire society restricted for this length of time is not fair or healthy. 

 

This is one of those things that is down to luck. If you are in a country like Taiwan life is nearly back to normal. They are even having festivals and parties all the non essential fun bar international travel😂. If you are in a country going through a second wave like Spain at least you had some fun and things are getting locked down again😳. Of course if you are in country like India all the waves just sort of blend together and you cross your fingers hope for the best😔. The response our governments have to Covid-19 is something beyond our control. You just have to hope you are in the area that nips it in the bud before it becomes a long drawn out lockdown. 

[cruizergal70]

10 hours ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

I think people just don't like to admit that luck does play a part in our lives. They like to believe everything in their life is in their control and as long as you work hard you should be prepared for every eventuality. Apart from preppers  realistically how many people contemplate if the place they are living will be suitable during a pandemic😕? Just because you get unlucky doesn't mean as a society we should be happy to let them fall through the cracks. We too have a choice in how we treat and care for unlucky individuals. 

I don't believe anyone is saying to let folks fall through the cracks. The point was that choosing a rural location comes with well known trade offs. This means that it takes extra effort by the local community to make sure its members are okay. Pandemic or not, folks know the availability of services.

Edited October 2, 2020 by cruizergal70

[ilikeanswers]

42 minutes ago, cruizergal70 said:

The point was that choosing a rural location comes with well known trade offs.

 

I can only speak form an Australian perspective but few people choose to move outback. They are usually born there from many generations and transitioning to metro living is quite an expensive endeavour with most folks having their money tied up in farms which in Australia can be difficult to sell. I guess in America it must be more common for people to leave the city for a tree change but I still think it is unrealistic to expect people to be prepared for every eventuality and this idea some posters seem to have that we shouldn't look out for vulnerable folks and that we should be able to do whatever we want just seems a little selfish to me but then again I am from a background that emphasises looking after the elderly and social responsibility so maybe it is simply a clash of cultures for me to read some of these perspectives. Anyway it is not like Cruise Critic is going to solve the worlds problems maybe we should get back to talking about cake😜.

[ldubs]

18 hours ago, 2wheelin said:

You are correct. Some others just can’t accept that they are privileged to have choices others don’t have the luxury of. Shoot! I ended that with a preposition but you all get the point. 🙂🙂

Yup, slow day.

 

I hope that thing about a preposition at the end of a sentence goes away just like the "who" vs "whom" thing.

 

In fact, I really never knew who whom was about.   Haha  

[ldubs]

17 hours ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

I think people just don't like to admit that luck does play a part in our lives. They like to believe everything in their life is in their control and as long as you work hard you should be prepared for every eventuality. Apart from preppers  realistically how many people contemplate if the place they are living will be suitable during a pandemic😕? Just because you get unlucky doesn't mean as a society we should be happy to let them fall through the cracks. We too have a choice in how we treat and care for unlucky individuals. 

 

 

Haha, everything good is the result of hard work.  Everything bad is something else's fault.  😋😋