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Could Celebrity choose a new Caribbean home Port in order to cruise this summer?

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Bo1953

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11 hours ago, Fouremco said:

Any cruise season less than 3 months in length I consider to be short. YMMV.

Hmmmm, I welcome the opportunity to be on a 'short' three (3) month sailing!!! LOL

 

bon voyage

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Bo1953

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4 minutes ago, cruisestitch said:

Read it again, Bo.  It was “season” not “sailing”

LOL - yes I did understand it as it was written, BUT I Am pining for a sailing that long sans around the world...

 

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dandee2

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On 3/11/2021 at 10:35 AM, TeeRick said:

So why would any island nation risk its people (unless most are vaccinated) for the sake of rich American tourists? And what about how the cruise line would be viewed? Don't you think a major backlash would follow?

It already started. Depending who you follow on Twitter/Instagram, tourists are looking more and more the new "colonialist", happy to keep the islands and small nations under their economic blackmail.
There is a growing number of people wishing us all to leave them alone.

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On 3/11/2021 at 12:12 PM, TeeRick said:

Private islands like Labadee and Coco Cay could be used if they apply strict controlled access to vaccinated persons only.  Including any locals that work there.  But they are not able to be used for home ports to base cruises.  But good controlled port stops for fully vaccinated ships.

Yes.  But how would you get the passengers out there.

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4 minutes ago, Longboysfan said:

Yes.  But how would you get the passengers out there.

 

This got me wondering if another ship could be used to ferry people from POM or PE. I think the voyages would be legal under the PVSA. 

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16 minutes ago, broberts said:

 

Just that, RCG has numerous ships sailing in circles, (or holding station), at the moment.

Maybe you've missed it, but no cruise ships are allowed to sail out of POM, PR or any other US port for the immediate future. You have a lot of reading and catching up to do.

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Just now, Fouremco said:

Maybe you've missed it, but no cruise ships are allowed to sail out of POM, PR or any other US port for the immediate future. You have a lot of reading and catching up to do.

 

Ferries are still running.

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2 hours ago, Fouremco said:

For the same reason that you can't call a cruise ship an airplane simply to circumvent legislation and regulations applicable to cruise ships.

 

Ferrying is an activity. Any ship is able to act as a ferry. 

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IIRC the history of the law as recounted by @chengkp75, the PSVA was enacted specifically to regulate ferries.  And on that front it is doing very well.  Think of the terrible ferry tragedies that happen regularly around the world – but not in the US.  If changes are ever made to the PSVA, the rules on ferries will be the last to be loosened.

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Fouremco

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1 minute ago, broberts said:

 

Ferrying is an activity. Any ship is able to act as a ferry. 

That's a very simplistic definitional approach. Spend a bit of time with Google researching US maritime law and you'll find that things aren't quite as easy as you seem to think.

 

The US Customs Service published a document titled "GUIDELINES FOR FERRY OPERATIONS IN THE UNITED STATES" that provides some idea of the scope of federal agencies that are involved in governing ferry options, including this paragraph:

 

The development of any new ferry operation or expanding existing ferry operations involves several other federal agencies. A few that are directly involved in these operations are: Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS), U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), Public Health Services (PCH) and the Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC). However, this document will focus only on the aspects of the U.S. Customs Service. Other agencies should be contacted to determine their requirements.

 

Of course, you can add the CDC, the Coast Guard and a number of others once you start talking about any international routes.

 

The bottom line is that what you are proposing simply isn't feasible.  

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On 3/11/2021 at 1:14 PM, Baron Barracuda said:

CDC isn't bluffing.   They could very well be pleased if Royal sailed from Cozumel or Barbados or any other Caribbean port with no calls at US ports.  It just aids their mission of preventing spread of disease within US.

If preventing disease is a concern, why are they letting people cross at the southern border with Covid?

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4 hours ago, broberts said:

 

Ferries are still running.

The ferries are US flagged

 

or are small enough to be under the CDC personnel limit

 

When it comes to ferries operating from US ports they are pretty much all US flagged ships.

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